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ITT: Writing tips.

-Computers are distraction machines. Some of you are probably procrastinating right now.
-Keep a journal handy and scratch down anything that comes to mind that you think makes sense and would fit with the story or a future story.
-Maybe you're scared of putting down something for fear of embarrassment. Consider drinking a few beers or doing a few narcotics to lower your inhibitions before attempting to write.
-Music can poison your intentions or how your mind percieves the scene. Consider the fact that Twilight was written while Stephanie Meyer listened to Muse for inspiration.
-Never use the word "suddenly" to describe any type of fast movement or pulse pounding action.

>> No.463142

you will fail. except it. learn from it.

and if you don't handle failure well, pick another hobby.

>> No.463139

nice try

But people on 4chan dont listen to other people of 4chan.

At least they shouldnt. The few good advice does not outweigh the shittons of crap.

>> No.463159
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>> No.463174

Step 1: Write a lot.
Step 2: Look back over what you have written.
Step 3: It will be shit.
Step 4: Write more, but less shitty.
Step 5: See Step 2
Step 6: See Step 3
Step 7: See Step 4
Step 8: Go back to Step 1
Step 9: Eventually you will either give up, or become less shit enough that other people will like it. Publish it, then go back to Step 1.

>> No.463179

Good advice OP

>> No.463211

>>463179
That sarcastic?

>> No.463230

>>463211
it better be

>> No.463234

>>463136
shit tips are shit

>> No.463235

>>463211
Kinda... your first and last points were okay.

>> No.463241

sure is fantastic discussion of literature here

>> No.463246

>>463241
just wait till the /b/ tards are bored.

Given their really short attention span this should not be too much of a wait.

>> No.463249

I agree except for the music thing. I actually have more trouble getting anything done without music. It helps me focus and blocks out background noise. It keeps my thoughts more in order.

>> No.463252

>>463246
I doubt it. Every fucking day it's "critique my poetry," "critique my short story," "here's my idea for a short story, what do you think?" "I need help with world building for my fantasy idea, it sounds cliche and generic but it's really not." Every fucking day.

>> No.463262

>>463252
oh, you are all up about that...
yeah, that sucks... maybe I just shouldnt come here anymore.

>> No.463271

>implying Twilight wouldn't have been shit if it had been written to silence

>> No.463274

>>463271

and the thread has been crushed.

>> No.463278

>>463271

and then john freemon was the alien

>> No.463283

>>463252

Please be so kind as to share your idea of what a "suitable topic" on /lit/ would be?

>> No.463287

>Consider drinking a few beers or doing a few narcotics to lower your inhibitions before attempting to write.

wat

>> No.463293

>>463287

I call alcohol writer-juice.

It makes the words come out.

>> No.463294

>>463287
this actually works... to a certain extent, but it is not really addressing the problem, just supressing the symptom

>> No.463302

>>463298

>nihilism

Ah, I take it you saw Little Miss Sunshine.

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463301

i can't ever come up with an idea for a story. help?

>> No.463298

>>463283
Discussion of literature.

"Hey /lit/ I started reading this book and I think it has a prominent motif of nihilism because of blah blah blah..."

This place is turning into deviant art or yahoo answers with the sheer amount of retards who consider themselves writers yet need help with every fucking thing that they do because they have no clue what they're doing. Take your shitty story ideas to deviant art.

>> No.463300

>>463142
>except it.
>pick another hobby.

Good advice.

>> No.463305

>>463301
dont push that poor anon too hard, he might have a seizure

>> No.463309

>>463302
No, I'm reading Wise Blood.

Fuck it, I'm adding you to my tripfag block list.

>> No.463319

Writing advice courtesy of the book Dune:

-Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife — chopping off what's incomplete and saying: "Now it's complete because it's ended here."

-A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it.

-I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

-What do you despise? By this you are truly known.

-Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic.

-Do not be trapped by the need to achieve anything. This way, you achieve everything.

>> No.463324

>>463298

If that's the sort of thread you want then why not go start one?

>> No.463326

If you want to actually talk about writing, go to /tg/.

>> No.463333

>>463174
Bird by Bird, almost word for word.

>> No.463342

>>463324
I did, on several occasions. They never get replies. Getting /lit/ to discuss themes and motifs is like pulling teeth out of a retard's head.

>> No.463357

>>463342
then stop yacking and leave the retards alone.

sancta simplicitas, bro
sancta simplicitas indeed (just in case this is getting all worked up again, this is not directed at you)

>> No.463366

>>463342

Then why do you stay?

>> No.463375

>>463342
>[it] is like pulling teeth out of a retard's head.
Pleasurable?

>> No.463380

>>463366
Because he has HOPE.

>> No.463386

>>463375
only if you like having an aspie scream, cry, flail his arms, and risk getting your fingers bit off.

"I wanna discuss Harry Potter and Twilight! I don't even know what a theme is! Leave me alone! I wanna post pictures of my bookshelf!"

>> No.463387

>>463380
Obama made the perfect cliche excuse for an entire generation O.O

>> No.463394

>>463380
Yeah right, I don't have any hope. I come back because every now and then I find a .jpg worth saving, and occasionally there will be topical discussion that I otherwise would've never heard of, like J D Salinger's death.

>> No.463395

when i'm writing, i torrent pron. uses up my bandwidth so i don't waste any time here.

>> No.463400

I like writing threads. I think these threads are some that anyone can identify themselves with. Poetry appraisal threads are shit, but in the OP's point of view, 4chan is the best place to get opinions. What's worse are homework threads, but those are rare.
But it's true that real literary discussion is rare on /lit/. It's to be expected, very few people read the same books unless it's something very famous and it is a lot of hard work to maintain a decent discussion. That is why they're rare.
But /lit/ isn't bad. In fact it's quite enjoyable and could be MUCH worse.

>> No.463401

>>463386

As opposed to the aspies screaming, "WAAAH I CAN'T STAND CREATIVITY! WAAH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO ON MY SECRET CLUB BOOK FORUM! WAAH, /LIT/ IS MY HUGBOX GET OUT IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING I SAY"

I'd say there's aspies everywhere.

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>>463136
You're so right, OP! I often do narcotics before I write. Really clears the mind.

>> No.463407

>>463386
hahaha, those threads of people posting pictures of their bookshelfs are /lit/'s camwhores. Cancer.

Discussing Harry Potter and Twilight must and should be allowed here. Not encouraged and not really taken seriously, but at least allowed. See, people has a first approach at books through light literature. Always.

Using enough anesthesics, pulling some teeth out of someone who'll not complain thereafter... looks like a pleasurable experience to me.

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463412

>>463401
>doesn't realize it's a bannable offense to have non-literature related discussions on /lit/.

>> No.463411

>>463301
Base the story or premise on an ideal, moral, feeling, scene or object. As long as you get shit rolling, you're fine.

>> No.463413

>>463412

>implying that Harry Potter isn't literature

HA HA!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

>> No.463418

>>463416
shit-thread?

>> No.463419

>>463416

A troll thread that made you butthurt, which is unsurprising because it seems as if there's very little that doesn't make you butthurt.

>> No.463416
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463416

>>463413
what do you call this thread you're posting in?

>> No.463421

>>463416
the best thread ever =')

>> No.463422

>>463142
>except it

right.
anyway
this thread was pretty funny. I really liked the bit about the aspies.

>> No.463423

>>463419
>A troll thread

No. A non-literature related thread that's been reported.

>> No.463425

>>463423

Hence, a troll thread. He intentionally went off-topic to enrage the Aspies.

It works, seemingly.

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463427

if something in the narrative happens suddenly, what are you supposed to use instead of "suddenly"? what the fuck is this, e-prime?

>> No.463430 [DELETED] 

>>463407

>camwhores
>cancer
>implying camwhoring isn't one of the cornerstones 4chan was build on

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, here, folks, but take away the trolls, the camwhores, and the lame memes, and you'll have pretty much erased 4chan from existence.

>> No.463428

>>463427

Abruptly

>> No.463433

>>463430

Oh shit nigga you better not tell the Aspies there's TROLLS on 4chan! Someone might cry! Or go back to their hugbox!

>> No.463432

>>463419

The funny thing is that you sound even more butthurt about him being butthurt than he is butthurt about this abortion of a thread.

Sage for said abortion.

>> No.463437

>>463432


>The funny thing is that you sound even more butthurt about him being butthur

Why so? It's him that's getting angry over 4chan, not me. I'm posting in this shitty ass troll thread, not giving a fuck at all about anything.

>> No.463441

>>463427

use a verb, douchefuck

>> No.463443

>>463407

>camwhores
>cancer
>implying camwhoring isn't one of the cornerstones 4chan was build on

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, here, folks, but take away the trolls, the camwhores, and the lame memes, and you'll have pretty much erased 4chan from existence.

Inb4 "sounds like a good idea"

>> No.463444

>>463427

>what are you supposed to use instead of "suddenly"

How about a thesaurus?

>> No.463446

>>463443
yeah, but I like seeing naked chicks. I don't care about some socially inept dudes bookshelf.

>> No.463448

>>463444
how about a gun?

>> No.463449

>>463437
could it be that you're an "emerging writer" who comes to /lit/ seeking creative advice, and you dislike how he's making you face your own ineptitude?

>> No.463453

>>463448

>the jerk store just called they're running out of you.jpg

I lol'd

>> No.463458

>>463449

>taking advice from 4chan

HOLY FUCKING BAD IDEA, BATMAN!
I mean, seriously. People on 4chan tell each other to kill themselves on a regular basis. Pretty sure you're gonna tell me the same thing in about five seconds, too.

The day I ask /lit/ for writing advice is the day I start pounding nails in my dick with a hammer for fun and profit. I'm just here to talk about BUKS.

>> No.463457

>>463453
what can I say, I was born to please by jerking...
wait, that doesnt sound right

>> No.463456

OP tries to be helpful. Starts retarded nuclear trollpocalypse.

Ahhh, 4chan.

>> No.463461

>>463458
go fucking kill yourself, your faggotry makes me nauseaus

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463464

>>463461


Thank you for proving my point.

Also, my answer is this picture

>> No.463472

>>463458
wow, why do you even stay here if you hold such contempt for everyone? You're better off self-fellating yourself elsewhere.

>> No.463481

>>463472
why, this is pretty selffellating right here

>> No.463488

>>463458

You're my least favorite poster on this board.

Just figured I'd let you know.

Stop posting so damn much, please. Sometimes your fine. You just need to stop posting when you don't have anything to contribute.

If you don't have anything to say . . . then LURK.

Faggot tripfag attention whore.

>> No.463489

I have a character whose last name is Fogarty. What should his first name be?

>> No.463492

>>463481
yeah, you can tell because I can't stop talking about myself with an unwarranted sense of superiority.

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463495

>>463458
you fit right in

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463512

>>463464
u mad

>> No.463513

>>463489

Grimly

>> No.463511

The OP just ruined Muse for me forever. Fuck you, OP.

>> No.463517

Tripfags are trolls you stupid fucks.

You always bite.

Stop biting and they'll stop being faggots.

The only way to troll a troll is to ignore him. Seriously. I am a troll. The ONLY thing that gets on our nerves is people not responding. Everything else you say or do only makes us stronger. You know this to be true.

>> No.463522

>>463458

You're here to talk about books, really? This thread is blowing up, while book threads are barely getting posts. Explain that.

>> No.463529

>>463489

John, of course.

He's on a baseball team and plays centerfield.

>> No.463698

>>463517
> Thinking people will follow your advice.
Hahahahaha.

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465242

OP here.

>> No.465334

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>> No.465533

i am going to map the spacebar in Word so that it sends a space, followed by "suddenly".

>> No.465549

>>463309

Fuck yes, Flannery O'Connor! How're you liking Wise Blood?

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