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Anonymous Tue Mar 4 15:52:39 2014 No.4628589 [DELETED]

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>in a Marxist facebook discussion group.
>discussion is on G.A. Cohen's Marx's Theory of History and how bad it is.
>ebook link is shared.
>download ebook.
>decide to see how bad it is for myself.
>open ebook.
>start reading through it.
>"something something something Hegel"
>okaayyyy
>skip to chapter two
>"something something something productive forces."
>pages are loaded with diagrams.
>can't make heads or tails of this shit.
>formal logic symbols randomly appear.
>go back to the beginning of the page.
>start reading the paragraph again.
>try to interpret symbols.
>still can't make heads or tails of this shit.
>look closer.
>symbols start spinning.
>symbols appear as mini-fedoras.
>ragequit
>close ebook.
>have urge to toss laptop out the window.

COHEN Y U DO DIS????

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 15:57:38 2014 No.4628602 >>4628589 >cohen [rubbing intensifies]

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 16:25:38 2014 No.4628696 Analytic philosophy is bullshit guize cuz logic don't real I'm going to write a 40-page essay on DELEUZE instead!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 16:40:38 2014 No.4628755 >>4628589 Read something more your speed. There's a new Pete the Cat book out, I think. But seriously, you're blaming the author for your not being able to understand him, not for his being wrong, incoherent, whatever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 16:47:38 2014 No.4628780 >>4628755 Isn't one of Noam Chomsky's big arguments against continental philosophy and dialectics the claim that no one can understand it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 16:48:38 2014 No.4628784 File: 763 KB, 1024x768, Koala.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4628589 >>4628589 >in a Marxist facebook discussion group.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 16:52:39 2014 No.4628801 >>4628784 >implying communists need to boycott any and all capitalist institutions

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 16:56:33 2014 No.4628813 >Marxist facebook discussion group i stopped reading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 4 17:26:36 2014 No.4628927 >>4628589 Your pleb is showing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 5 00:15:17 2014 No.4630389 >>4628589 Go back to Logic 101.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 5 00:38:18 2014 No.4630452 isn't this one of the key texts of 'analytical marxism' or whatever it's called?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 5 00:42:17 2014 No.4630467 >>4630452 >analytical marxism Tell me more. This sounds interesting.

Anonymous Wed Mar 5 00:58:17 2014 No.4630526

>>4630467

what I know of it is limited to its wikipedia entry during a wild evening of half-assed browsing, but i did find a chapter on it here:

http://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~wright/Published%20writing/IE-C8.pdf

see page 181 especially; on the previous page Cohen is mentioned, so my memory wasn't kidding me. as I understand it, this brand of Marxism sought to purge whatever nasty ideological elements it developed over the years. of course this is a gross oversimplification, but i admit to being a bit out of my element here. i was just struck by the cover because it's something i've been trying to find (in physical form) for a while, with no luck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 5 01:01:18 2014 No.4630533 >>4630526 This sounds wacky as fuck but I am interested. Thanks for the link!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 5 15:08:31 2014 No.4632106 >>4630467 It's bullshit. They confuse ontology with epistemology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 5 15:22:37 2014 No.4632140 >>4628589 >facebook discussion group link?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 01:16:25 2014 No.4633801 >>4632140 It's a private group.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 19:50:59 2014 No.4636202 >Marxist facebook discussion group Sponsored by Starbucks and Apple i suppose?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 19:58:59 2014 No.4636230 >>4628780 No, his argument is that HE cannot understand it with the implication that the chances are low that it's above his understanding.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 19:59:59 2014 No.4636239 what is the actual point of this thread? if you wanted it to be helpful you could have included a jpeg of one of the diagrams or logical propositions that confused you (with proper context).

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 20:06:59 2014 No.4636263 >>4628589 >marxist facebook superkek

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 20:08:59 2014 No.4636273 >>4633801 how'd you get invited

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 20:14:59 2014 No.4636288 >People not being able to understand Heidegger I really don't get it. You just have to be a little patient and read word by word. It's really rewarding.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 20:30:00 2014 No.4636332 >>4636273 He's more popular than we are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 6 21:47:26 2014 No.4636500 >>4636273 My friends were already in it.

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