/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.4625836]

Hey /lit/,

We're part of a social engineering group that aims to reduce social decline and empower people by removing the false victim mentality in the public, however we can. We aim to do this by tackling individual group designed goals geared towards various issues such as censorship, lack of self awareness in the public, and lack of focus on reality.

Email us at [e-mail] if you're interested. Let us know what you want to do in the group and why. We're taking in about ten more people.

[Anonymous No.4625851]

the hell are you losers doing and why do you need people from /lit/

[Anonymous No.4625869]

what?

[Anonymous No.4625871]

>>4625836
Why don't you just join The Yes Men? They have some kind of volunteer platform, I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yes_Men

[Anonymous No.4625877]

>>4625836
>"lack of focus on reality"

>implying reality exists

Get off /lit/, plebs.

[Anonymous No.4625883]

Could you be a little bit more specific about what it is you're trying to achieve and how? Can't say I'm sold

[Anonymous No.4625882]

>>4625877
Don't worry, we'll save you from your escapism, too.

[Anonymous No.4625885]

what is the false victim mentality?

[Anonymous No.4625891]

>>4625882
This can't be real

[Anonymous No.4625892]

>>4625851
We don't want to miss out on a chance to find someone who's interested no matter the board. You can fill in the rest, anon.

[Anonymous No.4625895]

>>4625882
I'm sure I make more money, have traveled more extensively, and have done more to help the world (through volunteerism, charity, and general fellowship toward everyone) than your entire little club combined. I advise you and your group to spend some more time on /lit/. That's the ticket to success.

[Anonymous No.4625896]

>>4625836
whelp you got me, i'd sure love to join your buzzwords group and help tackle those pernicious buzzwords through nothing less vague than "social engineering".

what's the median age of this group? are you all buttblasted 12-year-olds from /pol/?

[Anonymous No.4625904]

>>4625883
We want to actively engage the public to actively think issues with their own minds, instead of what others design them to think.

>>4625885
When people on your social media and on tv use the excuse of every day "traumas" to victimize themselves instead of taking the responsibility of improving their lives with their own strength.

[Anonymous No.4625907]

>>4625895
You know what? I think I will spend more time on /lit/. You guys are pretty cool here. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.4625912]

>>4625896
Nope, we had teenagers try to join us. No one of illegal age, please. We prefer people in the older age range. That's why we require credentials.

>What's to keep someone from lying?

We wouldn't be social engineers if we couldn't tell the difference.

[Anonymous No.4625915]

>>4625896
i think i'm in love anon, would you please continue ravaging these plebs?

[Anonymous No.4625921]

>>4625904
People know what they think. You underestimate humanity on that high-horse, seriously.

[Anonymous No.4625922]

>>4625904
>When people on your social media and on tv use the excuse of every day "traumas" to victimize themselves instead of taking the responsibility of improving their lives with their own strength.

Have you considered that social media is just one very narrow, constrained dimension of someone's life and cannot be used to make an accurate assessment of how a person really thinks?

[Anonymous No.4625932]

>>4625922
I'd like to believe that, but what's to say otherwise? That's pretty optimistic. Would you rather leave it up to chance?

For instance, how many times do you rely on spell check or autocorrect to help you spell a word? That's a form of reliance, inevitable as it is. But what about using that sort of mentality for dealing with daily life? You may be intelligent and can decipher through the manipulation, but others can't. Well that's a sample anyway.

Thanks for the words, /lit/. ?This pleb here is very impressed.

[Anonymous No.4625933]

Vaguery upon vaguery. You should call yourself the vague-a-bonds.

[Anonymous No.4625966]

>>4625933
>>4625921
As if it's fair that tumblr and facebook spoonfeeds us ways to think and spam slogans and propaganda. Plenty of companies and corporations actively find ways to promote themselves while getting away with it. Why should we not fight back?

Anyway, /lit/. You have the email. If any of you care enough, you could email us and ask what we're about. If anything, we are the ones vulnerable to extend the hand, not you. There are many reasons why we can't go into full detail, of course.

[Anonymous No.4625970]

>>4625932
How is it manipulation? You said yourself it helps people deal with daily life. There are drawbacks to social media but from what I've seen the pros outweigh the cons for the majority of people, whereas you seem to be insinuating that it's created problems for the general public that weren't there to begin with.


>I'd like to believe that, but what's to say otherwise? That's pretty optimistic. Would you rather leave it up to chance?

I'm optimistic for thinking there is more to other people than the collective whining on facebook and twitter?

[Anonymous No.4625972]

>>4625933
What in the OP post is vague?

[Anonymous No.4625975]

>>4625966
>As if it's fair that tumblr and facebook spoonfeeds us ways to think and spam slogans and propaganda.
>implying anyone with any intelligence uses social media beyond self-promotion

[Anonymous No.4625977]

>>4625966
>As if it's fair that tumblr and facebook spoonfeeds us ways to think and spam slogans and propaganda. Plenty of companies and corporations actively find ways to promote themselves while getting away with it. Why should we not fight back?

What makes you think this 'propaganda' is confined to the internet?

[Anonymous No.4625981]

>>4625977
We're not aiming to stop it just on the internet.

[Anonymous No.4625986]

>>4625981
Why not elsewhere? Would that be too ambitious, or are you only concerned with what is happening online?

[Anonymous No.4625991]

>>4625972
>OP post

[Anonymous No.4626000]

>>4625986
Before we take up that endeavor we need sufficient means to do so. We aim to build that online to spread our influence out to any places where information is this accessible, and then use it as a tool to launch efforts to expand.

[Anonymous No.4626002]

>>4625991
Yes. What in the original post was vague?

[Anonymous No.4626005]

>>4625975
>anyone of intelligence
Doesn't it make you sad that hardly anyone is intelligent anymore? Should that be okay that the intelligent just stand by and let things get ridiculous?

>>4625970
Bots, shilling, advertising campaigns, false media coverage, late media coverage. It's pretty manipulative. The idea is that we do something about it. Some people may do it publicly, volunteering or giving to charity. But this is our way. We want to see if anyone else agrees.

You must know a lot of intelligent people who see through the bullshit, Anon. But there is a huge majority that don't.

[Anonymous No.4626010]

>People don't think for themselves any more.
>Yeah, so true!
>I propose that we change that.
>What a good idea! How?!
>By telling them that what they're thinking currently is wrong!
>Wow!

[Anonymous No.4626021]

>>4626010
We wouldn't post our actions on a public forum. The methods are our secret.

[Anonymous No.4626028]

>>4626010
That's generally not the idea. At all.

[Anonymous No.4626034]

>>4625836

Tell it to TED, dude.

[Anonymous No.4626035]

>>4626010
Nigga are you hating on the socratic method?

[Anonymous No.4626040]

>>4626005
>Bots, shilling, advertising campaigns, false media coverage, late media coverage. It's pretty manipulative. The idea is that we do something about it.
yeah, with more "manipulation". whoops, i mean "social engineering". you're the problem, doofus. live your life and leave the mass manipulation to the masses.

[Anonymous No.4626055]

>>4626035
No. Rather I was using it to demonstrate my point.

[Anonymous No.4626058]

>>4625836
i'm the joker to your batman baby caps, i'm like the feline decline of the rhine shine aptitude, no rude, just relaxation across the continents, that's real

[Anonymous No.4626062]

>>4626040
While I see the appeal of shutting my eyes to the tragedy, I would have to decline.

We're here to throw out a line to anyone who already agrees, not to sell the idea. Attempting to appeal to your approval will not produce the right kind of team.

[Anonymous No.4626073]

>>4626058

[Anonymous No.4626078]

omfg this thread is hilarious. GL forming your neckbeard group, OP

[Anonymous No.4626080]

>>4626062
>tragedy

Why cant I hold all these melodrama?

[Anonymous No.4626199]

>>4626062
it's sad how you don't realise how ignorant you are about the concept of truth. you sound like a neopositivist

[Anonymous No.4626242]

>>4625904


>We want to actively engage the public to actively think issues with their own minds, instead of what others design them to think.

but many people need designs to think.

why do you hate sheep, autists, retards, and solipsists op? dont they deserve a good life too?

[Anonymous No.4626308]

Are you those powerful people from Eyes Wide Shut, OP? Why do you need us?

[Anonymous No.4626349]

>>4626242
Well that's a nice idea that they need designs, but why should it be the wrong kind of social design? The kind that makes people behave in a way that's advantageous to powerful men is depressing.

Maybe it's worth a try, maybe it isn't. The idea is that we find out. How do you know more without it? The theoretical can become applied if we try to even see if there are any results. What's to say anything isn't just a big social experiment? 4chan and gay tier leddit is the same thing.

>>4626308
And no, we are not like that.

[Anonymous No.4626372]

>>4625907
wait
did you just
fuck you guys are good

[Anonymous No.4626400]

>>4625836

Cool, you're a male social justice warrior. Kill yourself whenever, but now would be preferable. At least do it before you make any more internet posts.

"social decline", lmao.

[Anonymous No.4626405]

>>4626372
Cheers, m8.

[Anonymous No.4626425]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.4626428]

>>4625891
Neither of us posted that, actually.

[Anonymous No.4626431]

To anybody that emailed us, check your inboxes. We replied to some of you.

[Anonymous No.4626440]

>>4626242
My personal philosophy is that when the strong kill each other in the quest for power, the meek will inherit the earth or some similar shit, anon. So we empower the meek to make them more capable of building those lives for themselves.

[Anonymous No.4626447]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.4626452]

[Anonymous No.4626454]

>>4626440
meek people are meek because they prefer meekness

[Anonymous No.4626455]

What is the "social decline" according to you? If it's the increasing acceptance of deviating sexuality, self-identification or other such things that narrow minds sometimes decry as "social decay", I want nothing to do with it.

Otherwise, you've piqued my interest.

[Anonymous No.4626466]

>>4626455
It's the use of any type of social deviancy or variance as an excuse to remain indolent in order to maintain comfort, and not have to improve yourself, while simultaneously bitching about how oppressed you are and inventing new forms of oppression to socially bully people into validating you for the fear of looking like a bigot. It's also to curb peoples' response to said horse shit and help them understand that they are not bigots because an extremist radical transfat told them they had "thin privilege".

Shortly, self improvement and progress good, indolence and excuses bad.

[Anonymous No.4626468]

>>4626454.
I know, and I understand. However, some incredible people are shit on because people don't want the meek to become strong.

[Anonymous No.4626469]

>>4626466
>progress

[Anonymous No.4626476]

>>4625836
>hushmail
LEL hope you know you're just as unsafe as with any other e-mail provider
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2007/11/encrypted-e-mai/

[Anonymous No.4626477]

>>4626469
> You're an ableist, sexist pig and I need you to know it to feel better about my lack of affirmation!

Horse shit.

> I may be transfat, but I'm secure enough in that identity that I don't need to yell at you for not understanding or being CIS. I don't want special privileges, I want equal accountability.

Sweet, delicious growth.

[Anonymous No.4626478]

>>4626476
We actually use PGP for inter-group stuff. We'll have new people set it up when they get to us. We're paranoid as shit.

[Anonymous No.4626479]

>>4626466

Helping people get out of the mindset that plays the race card, gender card, etc? If your group can consolidate this ambition with the fact that there ARE such things as bigotry and privilege, and that they might exist in society in shapes we haven't even discerned yet, color me intrigued.

[Anonymous No.4626481]

>>4626455
Social decline would be exactly as we illustrated. The fall of communication in general; the way some people separate and define every little wrong as a safety net for others and themselves to blame others for their emotional and personal life issues. Or how there is this ever-pervading attitude of staying oblivious and fearful of power and control. So much, anon. Mainly, the acceptance and complacency to corruption. That is social decline. Complacency, especially.

[Anonymous No.4626484]

>>4626479
>Helping people get out of the mindset that plays the race card, gender card, etc?

Oh wow. We have a guy who thinks exactly the same way on that issue.

Write us! Make a disposable account if you must.

[Anonymous No.4626488]

>>4626477
who are you talking to bro

[Anonymous No.4626495]

>>4626479
We know it exists, but people who suffer it for real rarely pull the cards on racists. I'm a bottom riser as well and haven't once used that fallacy. The real bullshit going on is when people who use the race/gender/identity card socially capitalize on the struggles of people who have had it worse, like an anti-CIS LGBT extremist taking priority over somebody who doesn't want to have or doesn't personally glorify GID.

Knowing this, we aim to shift our actions in the direction of getting rid of that once people view it as valid following the advent of our first operations. We need the leeches and people who wear the cards like a badge out of the way before censorship, racism, imbalance of political power and other real issues can be tackled using social engineering. We're blazing a trail to something better.

It seems lofty, but at the very least we'll eke out the way for people after us.

[Anonymous No.4626498]

>>4626488
I an opportunity to clarify, so I did. It was for errbody.

[Anonymous No.4626499]

>white people

[Anonymous No.4626503]

>>4626499
> pulling the race card

[Anonymous No.4626508]

Bump

[Anonymous No.4626524]

Anybody else have questions?

[Anonymous No.4626533]

>>4626524
Are you vigilantes? What exactly do you plan to do to in order to engender intellectual discourse and stifle a "false victim mentality".
Do you think the internet is the right place, a necessary place, for this to take place?

[Anonymous No.4626544]

HEY GUISE CAN WE TALK ABOUT CENSORSHIP IN PRIVATE.


Go TP an old teacher's house instead of shitposting your impotence support group.

[Anonymous No.4626547]

>>4626533
The internet is extremely powerful, socially. People tend to look here for the latest ideas and trends to follow. The internet is a good first step, where we will begin this project and grow it, and then establish groundpounding subsidiaries that can even branch out into discussion-based groups, debates in small political societies, universities, and social demographics with a powerful voice, all to advocate the ideas we plan on putting out there. Making the ideas available and helping people understand them starts on the internet. Then, when they're a "thing", we can introduce people to them and have them taken seriously.

It's all very carefully planned, really. I myself spent at least a week or two researching shit like Twitter and Facebook buzzwords and interactions.

[Anonymous No.4626548]

>>4626547
Have you actually said a single word that means something?

[Anonymous No.4626551]

>>4626533
Well... saying we're vigilantes would imply that we have this fantasized image of what we aim for. So not really. Otherwise the young'uns all over of this.

"False victim mentality" is new at first, but after you think about it for a while, it becomes quite obvious from day to day. The details on how we do this, again, is something we cannot say on this forum.

The other subject just got covered.

[Anonymous No.4626554]

>>4625836
Sent, your group sounds very intriguing.

[Anonymous No.4626556]

>>4626548
Yeah man. I'm just really overly verbose.

[Anonymous No.4626557]

>>4626556
And yet you haven't read Foucault.

[Anonymous No.4626558]

>>4626551
I'm just wondering if anyone would have any use for a chemist, these days

[Anonymous No.4626561]

>>4626558
Chemists are definitely useful to us if we need to get a little creative with our groundpounding techniques.

[Anonymous No.4626571]

>>4626558
Chemist, right on. The will and drive to make a difference is also highly valued. And the propensity to learn more. We do lots of research.

>>4626554
Yayuh, ma niggra.

[Anonymous No.4626590]

>>4626557
/lit/, I will come back more often just so I can understand more about literature and Foucault.

[Anonymous No.4626600]

>>4626590
Start with reading his analysis of Sade

[Anonymous No.4626611]

>>4626600
Thanks for the recommendation actually. You're right, I haven't read him. Good shit anon.

[Anonymous No.4626616]

>>4626590


http://nydwracu.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/occultation/

youre not hardcore enough till you get everything here.

[Anonymous No.4626621]

>>4626010
>>4626055
This. Sorry, OP, it's painfully obvious that your "we" doesn't exist; nor does any hope for your cause.

[Anonymous No.4626629]

>>4626621
tl;dr- I'm butthurt for no reason

[Anonymous No.4626636]

>>4626616
Wowow, I don't know what this is, but I like it.

You guys are awesome on here.

[Anonymous No.4626639]

>>4626616
Oh, and thank you, based Anon.

[Anonymous No.4626642]

>>4626616
I'm OP and you are awesome. I love you based anon.

[Anonymous No.4626652]

>>4626629
>Idiocy confirmed.
Just your average post doctorate philosophy grad taking a shit at the bar here. Come back when you finish your sophomore year at whatever overly expensive undergrad liberal arts university you attend. I still won't care and neither will the masses.

[Anonymous No.4626665]

>>4625836
>reduce social decline

Be specific. What do you mean by social decline?

[Anonymous No.4626790]

>>4625836
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.4626809]

>>4626652
I bet you have similar views.

>>4626665
Is it examples you are looking for? Cannot you not infer what I mean from previous posts on this thread?

[Anonymous No.4626813]

>>4626809
Oops. Can you not*

Sorry /lit/

[Anonymous No.4626829]

>>4626790
>I don't know what this means but I sure want to feel like a part of something anonymously!

[Anonymous No.4627111]

>>4626809
>>4626813
Yes, it's examples I'm looking for. No, I cannot infer what you mean from previous posts on this thread.