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Anonymous Thu Feb 27 23:24:47 2014 No.4615041 [Reply] [Original]

What do you guys think about Aesop Rock, is he clever or nonsensical? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XabAnAJjDik for quick reference

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 27 23:27:37 2014 No.4615050 >white rappers

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 27 23:34:36 2014 No.4615064 Aesop Rock is the shit, most likely because he brings me back to an LSD trip with a couple of my buddies back in Highschool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 27 23:35:36 2014 No.4615065 He's obtuse but not nonsensical. You can translate what he's saying pretty easily. >>4615050 Paul's Boutique is one of the most influential hip hop records of all time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 27 23:38:36 2014 No.4615070 >>4615065 only white people think that the first beastie boys album isn't the best one

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 03:46:38 2014 No.4615520 <3

Anonymous Fri Feb 28 03:55:38 2014 No.4615531
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>>4615041
>white rappers
rap is like metal in that there are thematic constraints. as soon as metal stops being about weed and satan it starts being about how hard it is to be a high schooler, and as soon as rap stops being about money and bitches it starts being about shopping at the thrift store and hating your mom

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:07:38 2014 No.4615544 >crackers trying to rap kekked

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:08:38 2014 No.4615546 >>4615531 this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:10:38 2014 No.4615548 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNdAivs7_Uw rap is nothing without negros rapping about their hair

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:29:38 2014 No.4615560 >>4615531 Do you even listen to rap?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:32:38 2014 No.4615564 None Shall Pass is a great track, haven't listened to much else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEBGCOCxLgA&feature=kp

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:33:38 2014 No.4615566 >>4615546 Public Enemy weren't about money or bitches.

Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:38:38 2014 No.4615571

White rappers are good freestylers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g03ObMtPVm8

Other than that, rap works best as simple "pop music" and rappers that try to be too smart end up being kinda boring.
There are a few, very very few, rappers that do anything intellectual. But at that point, you're better off just reading a book or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 04:42:38 2014 No.4615577 i love /mu/

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:12:38 2014 No.4615607 >>4615571 >rappers that try to be too smart end up being kinda boring Honestly this. Aesop and Yoni Wolf and all those other too-clever-by-half guys are just dull to listen to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:33:39 2014 No.4615624 >>4615607 >yoni wolf >good choose one, motherfucker

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:35:38 2014 No.4615628 >>4615624 I just fucking said this retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:36:38 2014 No.4615631 >>4615041 I hate his voice. I hate white boy/nerd rap

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:37:38 2014 No.4615633 >>4615628 >I just said this , retard fixed that for you, kunt

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:39:38 2014 No.4615636 >Not listening to German upper middle class gangsta rap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3UBOOZw-FE

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:40:38 2014 No.4615638 >>4615041 >clever or nonsensical There's definitely more substance there within his lyrics than first appears when you listen to him for the first time. Just takes a little effort.

Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:44:38 2014 No.4615640
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>>4615631

Hip-hop being black is what makes hip-hop good. White people rapping is annoying because they either sound like wiggers or they sound like nerds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaHsNhY7veA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJJtIFuLTg

vs this fake white boy crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSWEOZRTh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbEwHJX95QE

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:56:38 2014 No.4615652 File: 45 KB, 500x500, 1381435332860.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4615633 kill ursel

Anonymous Fri Feb 28 05:58:38 2014 No.4615654

Aesop Rock more than any other rapper embodies the pretentious, pseudo-cryptic, and pseudo-intellectual strain of backpack rap, which is arguably worse even than the bathetic and sentimental camp, headed these days by Macklemore, if he hasn't gotten too popular.

He's calculated to appeal to those who demand explicit and unsubtle "profundity" in absolutely every line; those who believe in "serious art" and believe "serious" means art that's ostensibly complex, recondite, and mystic: like a grand puzzle, needing to be decoded for "hidden messages" which hold the key to any and all Big Questions you might have about Life and Existence.

All this to make up for the listeners covertly racist assumptions about hip hop and it's place in the dominant culture. Oh yeah, it's rap, but don't worry, it's not like Lil' Wayne or anything like that, it's *intelligent rap*. He's not just singing about money and bitches like popular (read: black) rappers, he actually has a lot of like really deep messages and stuff in his music, it's very like personal on conscious, you know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:00:38 2014 No.4615662 >>4615654 best post i've seen on /lit/ in ages

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:02:38 2014 No.4615664 >>4615654 aesop is eyedea without the heart a rapper for try hard plenplens

Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:02:38 2014 No.4615666

>>4615654
>>All this to make up for the listeners covertly racist assumptions about hip hop and it's place in the dominant culture. Oh yeah, it's rap, but don't worry, it's not like Lil' Wayne or anything like that, it's *intelligent rap*. He's not just singing about money and bitches like popular (read: black) rappers, he actually has a lot of like really deep messages and stuff in his music, it's very like personal on conscious, you know?
that there judgemental nature of yours

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:08:38 2014 No.4615681 >>4615050 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIQWRHJq_kE Stay mad nigger

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:11:38 2014 No.4615688 >>4615681 >actually linking eminem in 2014 way to make his point for him tardboy

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:12:38 2014 No.4615689 >>4615662 The best post you've ever seen on /lit/ was something that should belong on /mu/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:14:38 2014 No.4615695 >>4615689 this is not surprising considering the average post quality on both boards

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:14:38 2014 No.4615696 >>4615688 way to get fucking rekt by white rapper boypussy

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:16:38 2014 No.4615703 >>4615681 Do you really listen to eminem because if you do you are such a big white boy faggot jesus christ just put on facepaint and go to a juggalo concert while you're at it.

Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:18:38 2014 No.4615708

>>4615666
In all seriousness I am not the sort of person to just throw around allegations of racism, overt or otherwise, but it's hard to read the market for ostensibly and explicitly "serious" rap as anything but. Think off all the extremely common yet completely baseless criticisms of black hip hop artists: that they're not serious, that they're only concerned with superficial things like money and sex, that they're amoral or violent or homophobic. By injecting overt, nauseous earnestness and sentimentality (a la Macklemore) or explicit complexity and profundity (a la Aesop Rock) these criticisms are made up for and more. Yet no where in any other sector of pop culture do you find seriousness even approaching that of the backpack rapper. Why? Because no where else does the blackness need to be scrubbed off as thoroughly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:19:39 2014 No.4615710 >>4615703 >One of the best rappers ever to exist, technically unrivaled rapper. >LOL HE SO BAD XDDDD I want lecontararians to leave.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:22:37 2014 No.4615719 >>4615710 You are such a white boy faggot. Anyone who takes rap seriously is a faggot. I imagine you in your bedroom listening to eminem and I'm laughing because you're a faggot.

Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:23:37 2014 No.4615721

>>4615640
It's more about black/white roles in society.
In America they have somewhat defined roles, but elsewhere you can sometimes find white rappers who don't sound like nerds/wiggers.
It's rare, though, and those second two examples you posted are perfect illustration of what's wrong with most white rap.

>>4615654
Yeah. I don't know Aesop Rock that well, but in general there is also a lack of authenticity and a lack of humor, which happens because there's too much political correctness to make that possible.
I don't want to go full /pol/ here, but you can often feel something like the "white guilt" from these guys, who wouldn't dare say anything even remotely offensive, not even jokingly. And they never miss a chance to suck the dick of some black "rap legend" from the 90s (even if that rap legend was mostly into money&bitches).

The whole underground/backpacker rap culture relies on the idea of some authentic "old school" hip hop, which was "real" and not "commercialized and fake" like the mainstream stuff on MTV.
So it's ironic when the mainstream rap ends up being actually more creative and authentic than the formulaic underground/backpack rap.
There are some exceptions, of course. There are some creative underground rappers, but they tend to be a minority.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:27:37 2014 No.4615732 >>4615719 > I imagine you in your bedroom lol fuk boi u da one who sound like a faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:32:37 2014 No.4615744 >>4615732 Nice comeback. Now go blast your eminem while you wait for your mother to come home from work to cook breakfast/lunch/dinner for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 06:51:37 2014 No.4615790 >>4615744 go blast imagine dragons while you wait for your grandpa to come home and give you a rim job pedophile faggot fuk boi

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 28 07:09:37 2014 No.4615822 For the most part white rappers suck because their beats suck.

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