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What is post-modernism, say it so I can understand.

>> No.4564216

Its everything created since 70s, people are too lazy to classificate all this graphomaniac shit in correct labels because its not worth it.

>> No.4564224

it's a pretentious way of saying "contemporary"

>> No.4564227

A movement that followed and reacted to modernism emerged in the post-WW2 world that generally rejects grand narratives that tried to explain the world such as progress, ideology, religion etc.

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>>4564227
this is pretty good, yeah, as is pic related

>> No.4564320

It's more an attitude towards a subject than a classifiable genre. Two po-mo novels might seem completely dissimilar to readers. The other guys already covered it, but here's a different take. WWI was Modernism. Evil in the world, wastelands, the error of imperialism and the degradation of old Romantic ideals about war and heroism, all that shit. Modernism believed that such evil was a result of the "old ways" and therefore a rejection of those ways could improve the world. Postmodernism took World War and the atomic bomb as evidence that these "new evils" were not only unavoidable but worse than imagined. Rejection of the old was no longer a viable solution and the rise of civil rights movements led to a rejection of any notions of high art and low art and a general unabashed amalgamation of different cultures, histories and classes.

>> No.4564331

something that only serves the latest purposes and will vanish together with them.

>> No.4564336

If you want to learn, why not take a course on it?

https://www.coursera.org/course/modernpostmodern

>> No.4564980

>>4564320
Underrated post

>> No.4565102

post modernism usually it gets applied to art that switches genres for no apparent reason. (one example of its characteristics)

it has an everything goes approach, and it ignores artistic formalities.

it used to be cool, but then it became a dogmatic and studied artistic genre itself. formalities arose to classify and rate it, as it has encroached on mainstream culture.

i think the existence of the internet will probably direct the next major artistic movement, but i dont know how/what

>> No.4565114

post modernism is simply der zeitgeistengestalt, ja?

>> No.4565119

>>4564214
>>/b/

(its pomo)

>> No.4565127

It's hipsters taking over art and culture. It's absolutely disgusting.

>> No.4565156
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4565156

Postmodernism is basically lolsorandom meets 2deep4u.

There's no single narrative (like someone before mentioned), no single truth, all narratives are possible and blablabla and therefore you can put a vending machine in a 19th century story, and oh COCKS you don't see? POWER say no NO no I ART art

>> No.4565176

>>4564214
Read Postmodernism: A Very Short Introduction.

>> No.4565361

>>4564216
No, it actually started mainly in the 1950's with the beat generation in America. For the French, Foucault placed its beginning at Waiting for Godot.
Postmodernism is the movement to transcend modernist movement to transcend modernist ideas. Postmodernism is not *against* modernist concepts, it just doesn't wanted to be limited by them. Hence it seeks to transcend structuralism, Marxism, existentialism, materialism (and artistic things as well); it does not accept that there is no way to escape the subject-object relationship, and the notion of transcending it through a "limit-experience" is a common one in postmodern philosophy. Postmodernism is skeptical of narratives; postmodernism does not only see identity as flexible, but is often disillusioned with the idea of even choosing your own identity, as even self imposed identity is limiting. Postmodernism does not seek to liberate sex from censorship so much as it questions whether or not sex is the new religion that we must devote ourselves to. Common themes in postmodernist social theory and literature and art are drugs, multiculturalism and transcending identity.

>> No.4565366

>my art
my soul
>you dont need to understand
thats the point

>> No.4565376

>>4565156
Stick to genre fiction pleb, you haven't read enough yet.

>> No.4565384

This video explains it best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MHhLDCJ57E

>> No.4566682

>>4565361
>>4564320
These anons have it.

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>>4565361
>Foucault placed its beginning at Waiting for Godot
>mfw my year 12 English teacher said WFG was 'high modernism'

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After modernism.

>> No.4566832

>>4566691
For American is was mostly modernism ("high modernism" is a silly term), for the French is was the beginning of postmodernism; it meant something generally different to the thinkers of each country.

>> No.4566858

>>4564214
Modernism: Part 2 The Electric Boogaloo.