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Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:33:41 2014 No.4520546 [Reply] [Original]

Is there an abridged, kid-friendly version of this book anywhere? I want to read my son a bedtime story while also teaching him about the dangers of communism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:43:40 2014 No.4520561 >>4520546 there's an animated feature film

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:44:40 2014 No.4520565 >dangers of communism

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:44:40 2014 No.4520566 >>4520561 it's kind of terrifying though, if i recall correctly

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:47:40 2014 No.4520573 You can't get much more kid-friendly than the text itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 12:48:40 2014 No.4520576 >>4520573 This. Unless you are looking for a one-sentence-per-page picture book, the originial is your choice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:01:40 2014 No.4520592 >>4520573 Yeah because alcoholism and bloody battles really are kid friendly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:12:40 2014 No.4520611 File: 1.36 MB, 320x180, 1390831874458.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4520546 >i only want to show my kid "part" of the perspective presented by the author. Try Cold War propaganda for kids.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:19:41 2014 No.4520621

>>4520565
The dangers of communism are the people involved. The system seems reasonable and just, but no communist system with more than a few members will be stable. People desire power and personal gain, and communism simply doesn't work in a real world scenario. The same is true of many.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:22:40 2014 No.4520627 >reading political propaganda to kids That's even more stupid than deciding their religion before they even understand it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:28:40 2014 No.4520638 >>4520627 Why is it propaganda when it's historically accurate?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:33:40 2014 No.4520659 >>4520638 At least read them Homage to Catalonia after to learn them the reality of how capital decides wars, how media coverage is propaganda and the virtue of anarchists as the true democrats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:43:40 2014 No.4520690 >>4520546 >I want to read my son a bedtime story while also teaching him about the dangers of communism. No need to force it op, if you raise him right and ends up intelligent you can't avoid him realizing how shit communism is.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:45:40 2014 No.4520693

>>4520621
i belive one problem might be that communism had the western world as an enemy.
they had to fight and lost. if kapitalism had lost, they would have said that system was too weak.
Well. Nobody can proove me wrong because there was no such scenario.
Maybe other systems work? Would be interesting to know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:49:40 2014 No.4520708 >>4520693 Well clearly capitalism doesn't work either, it's just what stayed alive. I really wish someone clever would think up a new system.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 13:56:40 2014 No.4520727 File: 151 KB, 444x328, 1389311094204.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4520621 How about letting your kid dorm his own fucking opinions about the world?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:11:40 2014 No.4520772 >>4520727 My kid is my property I'll do with him what I want!

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:14:40 2014 No.4520781

>>4520546
Animal Farm isn't about the dangers of communism, it's about the dangers of ignorance and the creep of totalitarianism that inevitably follows a revolution.

Orwell was a socialist. He took the Soviet betrayal of their supposed ideals pretty personally.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:16:40 2014 No.4520788 >>4520781 This, Major is obviously supposed to be socialism on the right track before it's corrupted by others.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:17:40 2014 No.4520791 File: 13 KB, 124x122, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4520772 -69/10,i chuckled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:26:05 2014 No.4520818 >>4520772 le libnerdtarian face

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:43:05 2014 No.4520860 File: 28 KB, 429x399, 1389726253300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4520772 Fuck you for reminding me that those kinds of people exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:48:05 2014 No.4520870 >>4520546 my dad read this to me when i was about 8, it did no lasting damage, go for it.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:06:05 2014 No.4520915

actually in the very first school (think it is called ground school or sth in english; too lazy to look it up) we went to see animal farm as a play.
years afterwards i came up with the word animalist. didnt knwo where i got it from. then i read the book and knew it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:11:06 2014 No.4520935 >>4520727 This. Maybe you could learn something from your children. Maybe something you've long ago forgotten how to do.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:31:05 2014 No.4520981

>>4520772
>>4520727
>oh please god no, won't somebody think of those poor communists!!!!

seriously though, how far are you willing to take this principle?

would you say that giving a child a religious upbringing would also mean not allowing it to form its own opinions?

remember: if you agree, you're fedoric and euphoric; if you don't, you're a hypocrite.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:33:05 2014 No.4520985

>>4520708
well.. actually there are a few systems which are beeing made up.
there is a movie called moving forward
there you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2FPZrbYWK0
i liked some ideas. i think for sure some parts of it might be possible even in capitalism. like a kind of libary for things to use.
of course you have to be registered and pay if you loose the item. and pay a fee to repair the things in the end or buy new ones.
you have to think critical about the movie too.
I watched it a while ago and think some parts are good while others dont work at all. speak to the people about it. speak especially to students of economy because one of them told me that it wont work. thats to be able to be more critical of what is possible and what not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:35:05 2014 No.4520989 >>4520985 *speak to people about it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:36:05 2014 No.4520997 >>4520546 Pretty solid bait.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:38:06 2014 No.4521003 >>4520981 How terrifying, someone called me a buzzword on the internet. Yes, I do think raising a child with a religion is egging them on in the same way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:41:05 2014 No.4521007 >>4520981 Communists are people too. There are things to be learned from every perspective, and demonizing them won't help. So yes, give your son a chance to sympathize with communists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:43:05 2014 No.4521015 >>4520997 Yep, I'm actually a socialist and don't even have a kid. It's been a fun thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:44:05 2014 No.4521018 File: 70 KB, 300x381, 1390524909283.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4521015 Let's discuss. How do you feel about the various reactions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:45:05 2014 No.4521023 >>4521018 I'm glad people's reaction to communism isn't "omg it's terrible, you're an awful person for liking it".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:47:05 2014 No.4521027 >>4521023 Do you feel like that attitude has become the norm across most of 4chan?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:50:05 2014 No.4521033 >>4520546 >Is there an abridged, kid-friendly version of this book anywhere? I want to read my son a bedtime story while also teaching him about the dangers of communism. >Communism >For Kids Animal Farm >OP answered himself >The post is a Joke

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:50:05 2014 No.4521034

>>4521027
Fuck no, ever since /pol/ became its own independent board from /int/ and all the edgy /b/tards found out about it, all of their shitty conservative anti-liberal propaganda spilled out. It's really fucking annoying. If this board hasn't been tainted that much, I might browse regularly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:53:05 2014 No.4521037 >>4521034 I meant a tendency to antagonize communism. I think you read it the other way around. In which case, I agree. That's why I switched over to /lit/ as well. It was making most of the remainder of 4chan completely intolerable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:54:06 2014 No.4521040 >>4521037 Yeah sorry, I misread your post. Hope I can discuss things here without being accused of being a jew every so often.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:57:05 2014 No.4521044

>>4521040
It's really quite funny, considering 4chan up until a few years could not be more opposed to the conservatism that's now sweeping across it. But yes, /lit/ seems to naturally be the board most capable of thinking for itself. And even when that junk washes in, not conservatism in and of itself, but the mindless adherence to it, it can lead to some fairly interesting discussions.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:32:05 2014 No.4521122

>>4521044
Some of it can be attributed to Reddit. Some regulars here (4chan in general) are intent on becoming the anti-Reddit. A few years ago we could have discussions about atheism, but with the popularity of r/atheism, a wave of new sincerity religionists has swept over the boards.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:34:05 2014 No.4521131

>>4521122
To think that only a few years ago, claiming to be religious would make you the laughing stock of the site. Do you think that aversion to reddit allowed for religious people to come in, or were people actually so stupid as to change their views to avoid being uncool?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:37:05 2014 No.4521140 >>4521131 I doubt seriously religious people would browse 4chan.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:55:43 2014 No.4521192

>>4521122
it boggles my mind sometimes because a lot of the stuff dudes are 'le redditing' at--atheism/autism/puas/mlp-fedora-garbage--are things we took to greater extremes than anyone else. like i'd say the only thing we didn't do was get together irl and hold conventions for this shit--but i don't know if that's even true now (i only visit lit nowadays).

i assume it's just a case of step-wise trolling cause this is still probably the worst place on the net if you're genuinely into religion/tumblr-shit. some days i'm not so sure though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 17:10:43 2014 No.4521225 >>4520727 Why would you do that when it is clear that your opinions are correct

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:04:00 2014 No.4522000 >>4520592 Don't be such a little bitch

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