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4433441 No.4433441[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

was Bukowski right?

I mean we can spend all these hours upon hours to circlejerk over Zizek, Shopenheuer, Kant, Vonnegut or McCarthy but it all boils down to fucking, right?

>> No.4433455

>>I mean we can spend all these hours upon hours to circlejerk over Zizek, Shopenheuer, Kant, Vonnegut or McCarthy but it all boils down to fucking, right?

No.

>> No.4433457

>>4433441
He didn't lose his virginity until he was 24.

>> No.4433464

>>4433457
why does that matter?

are you implying that he had a compex for his virginity that stuck with him through all of his life?

>> No.4433486

>>4433455
the fuck you mean

ur a virgin?

>> No.4433490

>>4433457
citation needed

>> No.4433493

>>4433441
I don' think that was Bukowski's point

>> No.4433508

>>4433493
the thing is that he didnt have a point

at all

he wrote all this shit and he was surpised that anyone dig it

after that he kept searching for a justification for what he wrote

problem is that he's nothing more than a drunk rapist so he won't produce any decent explanation, that's why he just kept on writing the same shit over and over

>> No.4433510

>>4433508
>looking for an explanation or a message
:^)

>> No.4433530

>>4433526
yeah but you seem mad because of this

>he's nothing more than a drunk rapist so he won't produce any decent explanation

>> No.4433528

>>4433490
There's an interview on YouTube. Search "bukowski virginity" and you'll find it. It's a hilarious anecdote.

>> No.4433526

>>4433510
>the thing is that he didnt have a point

just read the post m8

>> No.4433552

>>4433530
I am kind of mad because he didnät "spin" his own celebrety enough.

I mean he found himself in this sick position where he just wrote about shit he did to women and got famous for it

He couldve spun the whole "hollywood-is-so-degenerate-it-promotes-someone-like-me-thing" and he did, partially, but not enough, because it is fucking extraordonary that shit like this passes the agents.

>> No.4433553

they're are more substantive fucker's writing

>Fuck, in one word, fuck; 'twas for that you were brought into the world; no limits to your pleasure save those of your strength and will; no exceptions as to place, to time, to partner; all the time, everywhere, every man has got to serve your pleasures; continence is an impossible virtue for which Nature, her rights violated, instantly punishes us with a thousand miseries. So long as the laws remain such as they are today, employ some discretion: loud opinion forces us to do so; but in privacy and silence let us compensate ourselves for that cruel chastity we are obliged to display in public.

>> No.4433906

He was definitely right about availability being crucial for casual hookups. That doesn't work on all kinds of women but it works consistently on a lot of them.

>> No.4433909

Yes.

>> No.4433950

my favorite Bukowski line is something like

-either everything is meaningless or nothings is-

I like to read Bukowski because I think he doubted himself a lot. His macho-persona was a put-on and he knew it. He was beat by his father and he never really grew up and got over it. He's the epitome of the two-faced coin - love is hate, anger is fear, etc.

he's like a hurt little kid who puffs himself up and tells himself he doesn't matter, so how can his pain matter? but his pain did matter. everything matters

>> No.4433967

>>4433441
>but it all boils down to eating, right?
fix'd

>> No.4433970

>>4433441
Yeah we're all animals and sex is like air, it only matters when we don't get it.

I suppose arguing about lit is entertaining once we've blown our loads into pussies.

>> No.4433995

I only ever read one of his books. I should read more. Are all his main characters assholes? I love that. Which one should I start with? The one with the biggest asshole of a main character?

>> No.4434017

>>4433995
I liked Women.