Why are all good writers ugly?

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Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:31:41 2013 No.4422578 [Reply] [Original]

Why are all good writers ugly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:37:42 2013 No.4422616 No, please. This here is still one of the most fuckable men on the planet ever and would be even if he weren't on of its greatest writers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:38:41 2013 No.4422625 File: 68 KB, 500x764, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422616

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:39:41 2013 No.4422630 File: 35 KB, 323x500, Young_Nabokov.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >implying ugly

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:39:41 2013 No.4422626 >>4422616 >This here is still one of the most fuckable men No, he's dead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:44:49 2013 No.4422654 File: 113 KB, 787x1000, XCrfEjW.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422578 >implying you didn't just pick a shitty photo of him

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:45:49 2013 No.4422659 >>4422616 I'd like to think that OP was implying that because Hemmingway is not ugly, he's not a good writer

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:46:49 2013 No.4422664 >>4422630 Nabokov is a filthy pedo and so is anyone whom reads him

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:47:49 2013 No.4422672 >>4422578 Less cunt more writing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:49:50 2013 No.4422681 >>4422664 This would have been an okay (if somewhat overused) bait, but misusing "whom" really puts it over the top. 3/10.

>>	Claquesous Mon Dec 30 18:50:49 2013 No.4422691 >>4422664 lol 10/10 Actually, last night I dreamed that I was making a film of "Lolita" and finally doing it adequately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:50:49 2013 No.4422692 >>4422625 >>4422630 must be pretty shitty writers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:51:49 2013 No.4422694 File: 64 KB, 283x396, 79054r747.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looks like a more masculine DFW to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:51:49 2013 No.4422695 >>4422691 What was it like to dream of being Stanley Kubrick?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:51:49 2013 No.4422699 >>4422626 I want normalfags to leave.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:52:49 2013 No.4422704 File: 48 KB, 500x341, lwyfi6sron1qej7pq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422664 >whom reads him

Claquesous Mon Dec 30 18:53:49 2013 No.4422706

>>4422695
I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion.

I do think the world will never see a better Humbert Humbert than James Mason. Or, more to the point, I think the world will never hear a better Humbert Humbert's voice than James Mason's voice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:54:49 2013 No.4422713 >>4422691 Lolita is actually one of Kubrick's best films. James Mason and Peter Sellers give excellent performances.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:56:49 2013 No.4422718 >>4422706 Out of curiosity, what do you dislike about Kubrick's adaptation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:56:49 2013 No.4422721 >>4422694 That's because you're gay for DFW

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:59:49 2013 No.4422732 >>4422630 he's fucking butt ugly he was actually more presentable as a fat old man

Claquesous Mon Dec 30 19:07:49 2013 No.4422765

>>4422718
I should probably add that I did like Kubrick's version; I just don't feel that it was fully adequate as an adaptation. First, you have the fact that they had to skirt a lot of the sexual and approaching-sexual material just because of the conventions of the times, to the detriment of the story; I really disliked how they handled the character of Charlotte as well. She shouldn't have been clownishly pathetic, for what my opinion may be worth.

Also, as much as I love Peter Sellers, I preferred the way the Lyne film presented Quilty-- as a sort of invisible presence, embodying all of Humbert's dreads and insecurities-- more as he was in the book. Of course, I'm not arguing that staying truer to the book necessarily makes a better film, but in this instance I think it would have.

I also don't really know what the "Dr. Zemph" scene was doing in the movie at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:08:49 2013 No.4422771 all extremely average

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:21:49 2013 No.4422821

>>4422765
You're definitely right about Charlotte. I think that the way she was translated to the film is emblematic of a lot of the problems with it; i.e. the pursuit of comedy to the neglect of everything else. But then again, the reason I like it is because it doesn't stick to the novel too closely. I appreciate both Kubrick and Nabokov, and seeing Kubrick's take on Nabokov, though not a perfect adaptation of the novel, is a real pleasure.

I didn't dislike the Dr. Zempf scene. Wasn't it just a different take on Humbert's scene with the psychologist in the book (but with Quilty taking the place of the female psychologist)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:22:49 2013 No.4422824 >>4422765 Have you ever read Nabokov's original Lolita screenplay? I've been wondering if it's worth a read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:23:49 2013 No.4422831 >>4422654 implying there isn't a plaster of hair covering his hideous features

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:25:49 2013 No.4422837 >>4422831 implying hair doesn't count as a feature itself

Claquesous Mon Dec 30 19:25:49 2013 No.4422843

>>4422821
I was taken aback by the Dr. Zemph (or, as autocorrect would have it, Dr. Sermon) scene just because I thought it wasn't the appropriate place for Peter Sellers's funny voices.

>>4422824
No, but I probably will eventually. Like you, I'm curious.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:29:50 2013 No.4422865

>>4422771
as well as most people. that doesn't mean that all good writers are ugly at all though, simply that it's hard to be exceptional at many things at once. so in general you can make the same question about good physicists, good engineers and every other discipline that doesn't closely relate to physical appearance and you'll get similar results

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:31:50 2013 No.4422872 >>4422837 implying that's implied implying it's not still disguising a bunch of other hideous facial features

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:32:49 2013 No.4422877 >>4422872 implying it matters whether features are hideous if they're disguised

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:37:49 2013 No.4422902 >>4422877 >explying that that's implied >implying that there isn't still fuckugly beneath that rat's nest

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:39:49 2013 No.4422908 >>4422902 better ugliness of the body than ugliness of the soul my freind :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:45:50 2013 No.4422940 >>4422908 it may be. yet the subject of this thread is ugliness of the body not beauty of an undefinable and I replied to a post that refer to perceived beauty of the body

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:03:49 2013 No.4423021 >>4422578 why did you post a pic of tom cruise?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:10:50 2013 No.4423051 What's it like to be wanted /lit/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:27:49 2013 No.4423111 File: 11 KB, 225x225, 1387752499729.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] chek em

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:35:50 2013 No.4423147 File: 27 KB, 220x330, 220px-Gabriel_Garcia_Marquez.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WAAAARRRIOOOO

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:51:11 2013 No.4423194 File: 7 KB, 308x163, ruggles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >good writers >ugly kiddo please

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:55:10 2013 No.4423204 File: 5 KB, 201x250, L-Ron-Hubbard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You just keep talkin shit, bucko. Keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:25:41 2013 No.4423331 File: 27 KB, 520x506, sasha-grey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >imblying

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:26:41 2013 No.4423337 >>4423051 Dunno, go ask /fit/ or /fa/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:28:41 2013 No.4423346 >>4423331 Now you've dun it kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:29:41 2013 No.4423350 Because if they weren't ugly, they'd be out socializing and fucking hot chicks rather than spending their time alone, writing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:29:41 2013 No.4423355 >>4423337 >implying /fit/ isn't the biggest collection of spaghetti pocketed betas you will ever encounter

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:54:20 2013 No.4423442 File: 178 KB, 1080x1440, hank.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] speak for yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 22:12:05 2013 No.4423483 >>4423442 m8 he said good writers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 22:17:05 2013 No.4423499 >>4423442 Mulder?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 22:18:05 2013 No.4423504 File: 171 KB, 667x874, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ha wait what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 22:21:06 2013 No.4423514 File: 174 KB, 574x700, Nathaniel_Hawthorne.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sup

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 22:23:05 2013 No.4423526 >>4423483 hv u evn red his bük m7?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:14:33 2013 No.4423668 >>4423504 Haave you seen photos of him when he was older? Ulgy son of a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:15:32 2013 No.4423672 >>4423111 Trips for grips

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:16:32 2013 No.4423675 >>4423442 Isn't that duchoveny

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:18:32 2013 No.4423677 >>4423668 i was already aware it wasn't a magical portrait, but maybe spoiler that shit next time anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:19:32 2013 No.4423680 File: 270 KB, 897x1206, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422578 Why are all communists Adonis incarnate

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:21:32 2013 No.4423683 >>4423675 Yea, but he plays an alcoholic, womanising and misanthropic writer in Californication. God Hates Us All is his fictitious book but actually exists (I read it), good show with good writing. I would defo recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:24:32 2013 No.4423693 >>4423683 Holy shit Inthought you wee joking So the show's writers wrote it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 03:36:56 2013 No.4424268 >>4422732 youre going have to explain what is ugly about him >>4422771 averageness is literally the definition of attractiveness

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 03:40:56 2013 No.4424275 >>4423693 yea lol its a really good book. very self-refriential and meta

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 04:19:57 2013 No.4424320 File: 26 KB, 564x272, anais.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anais Nin was pretty hot, tho.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:19:47 2013 No.4424360

>>4423442
>>4423675
>>4423683
Have you guys ever noticed how all of Duchovny's character's books are named after Slayer albums? I've heard it suggested that his character is based on Martin Amis. (There's an episode where, I believe, his love interest mentions the analogy, to his character's evident chagrin.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:23:47 2013 No.4424365 >>4424360 >Martin Amis Possibly, but im not familiar with him. Yea and so is Seasons of the Abyss or something,. I really like the titles of his books. Cant wait for season 7

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:25:47 2013 No.4424366 >>4424320 She wasn't a great writer

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:53:47 2013 No.4424391

>>4424365
Martin Amis is fairly famous.

From what I recall, there was a Californication episode which mentioned some of Hank's works as being titled "South of Heaven, Seasons in the Abyss, and God Hates Us All," but then again, the show is rife with music references, including the title.

I haven't watched it in a few years since I felt it went downhill pretty quickly after the first seasons. (I watched through the third season, I believe.)

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:56:19 2013 No.4424395

I can think of a whole bunch of authors and poets who were/are good looking; don't know what OP is talking about—Fitzgerald, Woolf, Rupert Brooke, etc. To me it's actually the ugly ones who stand out more. (Bukowski.) And Hemingway wasn't ugly at all. He was manly as fuck and looked decent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:16:19 2013 No.4424414 File: 31 KB, 568x320, baader.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423680 well..

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:16:19 2013 No.4424415
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>>4422578

Because ugliness forces you to earn things. Nobody likes you at first, nobody wants you around at first. You have to fight for everything, you don't take anything for granted.

Hemingway wasn't ugly though.

>I'd hit it, no homo

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:17:19 2013 No.4424416 File: 54 KB, 542x540, chat brucewin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422578

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:07:29 2013 No.4424652 Most people are ugly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 13:52:13 2013 No.4425258 File: 632 KB, 1464x1986, Nietzsche187a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >implying you wouldn't this hairstyle is 100% /fa/ approved

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:32:36 2013 No.4426048 File: 56 KB, 203x300, paul_auster_203.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what about this guy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:34:35 2013 No.4426057 >>4422578 >implying hemingway wasn't attractive >implying hemingway was a good writer Steinbeck was a handsome dude so you're point is invalid. So was Louis-Ferdinand Celine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:36:35 2013 No.4426063 File: 37 KB, 256x320, sophiauster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4426048 this is her daughter

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:37:35 2013 No.4426064 >>4426048 goblin/10

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:39:35 2013 No.4426070 >>4423514 lol portraits were done specifically to make them look better than they really did

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:55:25 2013 No.4426293 File: 34 KB, 460x288, mao statue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423680 no one knows mate no one knows

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 19:41:22 2013 No.4426562 File: 10 KB, 241x291, George_Eliot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4426070 case in point

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 22:12:11 2013 No.4427007 File: 24 KB, 300x291, Proust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what you talking about

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 22:14:12 2013 No.4427014 File: 15 KB, 220x293, th.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You say something momma's boy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 22:20:11 2013 No.4427026 File: 41 KB, 400x443, 51volpi06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i'd have dated him. no homo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 22:31:11 2013 No.4427048 File: 4 KB, 172x186, byron.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Implying

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 22:31:11 2013 No.4427051 >>4427048 Dude got molested so many times it is funny

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 04:23:17 2014 No.4427746 I would argue the opposite.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 04:37:16 2014 No.4427757 >>4427051 go on

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 04:40:16 2014 No.4427760 File: 326 KB, 615x386, rupert brooke.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fuck all of you

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 13:06:39 2014 No.4428287 >why are almost all male writers ugly ftfy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 13:10:39 2014 No.4428294 File: 312 KB, 711x948, Kafka_portrait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] op pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 14:40:43 2014 No.4428437 >>4422578 are you implying my n word hemmdog is ugly op

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 21:30:15 2014 No.4429702 >>4427768 he looks...sad. I almost feel bad for him. I see myself in him

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 21:34:15 2014 No.4429719 >>4429702 dont flatter yourselfe

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 21:34:15 2014 No.4429720 >>4428294 loved him in the sopranos

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