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441212 No.441212 [Reply] [Original]

You can count the number of female authors you respect and enjoy on one hand.

>> No.441220

none

>> No.441222

Ehh.

>> No.441223

>>441220
This.

>> No.441226

Lahiri
Byatt
Spark
Rowling

Yep pretty much it.

>> No.441231

Stephanie Meyer

...fuck. OP's right. :(

>> No.441236

edith wharton
virginia woolf
gertrude stein
evelyn waugh
george eliot
catherine cookson

OK thats 6 you lose OP

>> No.441238

edith wharton
george eliot
virginia woolf
catherine cookson
gertrude stein
evelyn waugh

thats 6

>> No.441240

J.K Rowling .. its true ...

>> No.441243

Barbara Kingsolver is an excellent author. The Poisonwood Bible was fantastic, and so far, The Lacuna is good as well.

Also, I like Ayn Rand, but I won't elaborate on that, considering /lit/'s opinions on her.

For three, Sylvia Plath. The Bell Jar was very, very good, and she wrote some exceptional poetry as well.

For four, Harper Lee. Sure, it's one of those "high school" books, but you can't deny that Atticus Finch is one of the greatest heros in literature.

For Five, Emily Bronte. The only one of the Bronte sisters that was any good.

Okay, you got me. There aren't anymore. One hand, it is.

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>>441226
>respect Rowling

>> No.441248

Rowling
Rand
Byatt
Spark
Woolf
Wharton

+ Some random poets who I can't recall.

>> No.441254

SYLVIA PLATH NIGGA
VIRGINIA WOOLF BITCH
That's about it

Then again there are few male authors I both respect AND enjoy

>> No.441257

Mary Shelley
Harper Lee
Jane Austen
Anne Mccaffrey (bite me)
Shirley Jackson

kinda Anne Rice

>> No.441267

Mary Shelly
Agatha Christie
Ursula Le Guin
Trudi Canavan
Harper Lee
Anne Rice

I'm not a mutant, my hand has 5 fingers. So OP is an idiot.

>> No.441268

This is fucking sad. Are you people shitting me?

>> No.441272

ITT people list the female authors that they've heard of.

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441273

Interesting, this is the first time I've seen people list some of these names. I've been trying to get female author suggestions ineffectively for awhile.

Hard mode: You can count the number of female authors you respect and enjoy on one hand, who's primary literary success has occured within the last 40 years.

>> No.441278

Sara Douglass
Anne McCaffrey
Mercedes Lackey
Jaqueline Carey
Margaret Weiss
Anne Bishop
Kelley Armstrong
Agatha Christie (but only because of how massively successful she is despite the crappiness of her books)
Leigh Eddings

I'm pretty sure that's more than five.

>> No.441280

>>441273
and they have to be black, blind, and crippled

>> No.441281

None besides Rowling.

>> No.441283

>>441273
Do you mean you can't?

>> No.441285

>>441280
Not necessarily. That just makes them more likely to hijack success through Oprah's book club.

>> No.441287

Mercedes Lackey
Margaret Weiss

wow I forgot about those two

>> No.441289

>>441278
>a bunch of fantasy writers
>respect

choose one

>> No.441298

>>441289

Choose one that I respect more than the others? Sara Douglass, easy.

Despite being fantasy writers, they all managed to write books that I thoroughly enjoy. Which is why I respect them.

>> No.441300

OP, how did you know a mad chimp bit off all of my fingers?

>> No.441301

O'Connor
Munro
Butler
Jackson
Plath
Le Guin
Atwood
Woolf
Morrison
Oates
Tsvetaeva
Tatiana & Anna Tolstaya


None of them are in my top 10 or anything, though.

>> No.441303

>>441300
Been working on the complete works of Shakespeare, have you?

>> No.441304

Flannery O'Connor

>> No.441308

I can't name more than five women authors I've enjoyed? Ridiculous. If you'd worded it as top tier authors - perhaps, but as it is this is just laughable.

Berg, Carol
Bradley, Rebecca
Bujold, Lois McMaster
Dunnett, Dorothy
Fallon, Jennifer
Forward, Eve
Friedman, C. S.
Gentle, Mary
Hobb, Robin
Jones, J. V.
MacAvoy, R. A.
May, Julian
McCullough, Colleen
McKillip, P. A.
Niffenegger, Audrey
Penman, Sharon Kay
Rawn, Melanie
Reichert, Mickey Zücker
Renault, Mary
Valente, Catherynne M.
Weis, Margaret

>> No.441310

>>441303

I don't follow you.

>> No.441315

Well, yeah, but that's much more to do with my rubbish reading habits.

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441319

>>441308
>Niffenegger, Audrey

>> No.441326

I just remembered Susanna Clarke wrote Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell.

So, her; Charlotte Bronte; that's about all that come to mind at the moment.

Granted, I only really respect and enjoy Dickens and Gaiman on the male side of things, so...

>> No.441335

>>441319
Hey, I'm a hair fetishist.

>> No.441358

Virginia Woolf
Octavia Buttler
Joan Slonczewski
Diana Wynne Jones
Some other bitches whose names I can't remember. It's a lot more then 5, I just have a really bad memory.

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441369

Somehow I think this thread is irrelevant.

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441376

>>441369

>> No.441379

>>441236
evelyn waugh was a man, anon.

sorry.

>> No.441387 [DELETED] 

>>441379
>my face when I see this goes unnoticed for over an hour

>> No.441388

no toni morrison love eh?

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>>441379
>my face when i see this goes unnoticed for over an hour

>> No.441391 [DELETED] 

>>441387
>implying anyone reads any other replies in these kind of threads

>> No.441394

>>441388

no. gtfo.

>> No.441396

Wow, none. Shit.

>> No.441399

Sylvia Plath
Charlotte Bronte
Jane Austen
Margaret Atwood
Ursula K LeGuin

...Damnit, I thought I had more than that.

>> No.441406

>>441379
You're a fucking idiot dude, no SHE wasn't.

>> No.441409 [DELETED] 

>>441391
I'm slowly going through the names actually. There's a metric fuckton of genre fantasy and historical novel authors listed here but Marina Tsvetaeva, Alice Munro and Shirley Jackson are both authors I'd never heard of that look interesting and will be looking into. So far at least.

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441408

Ayn Rand

>> No.441415

>>441391
I'm slowly going through the names actually. There's a metric fuckton of genre fantasy and historical novel authors listed here but Marina Tsvetaeva, Alice Munro and Shirley Jackson are all authors I'd never heard of that look interesting and will be looking into. So far at least.

>> No.441418

>>441415
What's wrong with historical novelists? Interested because my post was full of both of what you appear to ignore

>> No.441429

>>441399

Oh wait, I thought of one! Catherynne Valente! Hah!

>> No.441437

Its ok to enjoy Atlas Shrugged.

>> No.441439

New to lit and keep seeing Ayn Rand come up

Who the fuck is she? Someone give me the lowdown quick.

>> No.441454

>>441418
I don't want to go too in-depth about the merits of work I like: quality in literature as we both know is too subjective for either of us to be right about, but here's why I don't do it. The problem I have with historical fiction is the seduction it presents to accept the authors view of what they're researching. People can dedicate large periods of time getting the facts down right; but without the presence you cannot capture the event or people. While that isn't promised in the genre the suspension of disbelief is implied as necessary to really engage yourself with it. I'm a fairly susceptible person and knowing this about myself I try to avoid things that might overtly convince me one way or the other. Historical fiction deals with reality, and while literary fiction can have the lived experience influencing it we use it to convey allegorical event, or feeling, rather than trying to immortalize the factual reality of what has happened.

>>441437
Right. Just not okay to talk about it.

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>>441212
>female authors
>enjoy on one hand
>plath.jpg

Guilty as charged.

>> No.441473

>>441415
if you getting in to Shirley Jackson start with the lottery

>> No.441475

>>441454
That's some crazy shit there, friend, but you do as you feel best. Just another question, I see your rationale applies perfectly to hf that is written from the viewpoint of a documented historical character, but what about stories about fictional characters set in (documented) historical times? Do you feel the same about the latter as with the former?

>> No.441482

Plath
Sexton
Atwood
Austen
Browning
Woolf

>> No.441496

Not mentioned so far are Annie Proulx, Anna Akhmatova, Joyce Carol Oates, Marilynne Robinson, Zadie Smith

>> No.441503

52 posts. Flannery O'Connor mentioned twice.

For shame, /lit/. For shame.

>> No.441505

0

>> No.441523

>respect
>plath.jpg
OH YOU

>> No.441546

>>441496
Annie Pr**lx should never be mentioned, not under any circumstances. In fact, if you utter her name thrice... well, just don't.

>> No.441549

So no one else here likes Barbara Kingsolver? She's really a fantastic writer, you know.

>> No.441551

>>441503
thats supposed to be a woman?

>> No.441556

It's true and I don't feel bad about it.

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441557

No one picked Flannery O'Connor?
Oh and,
Joyce Carol Oates
Margaret Atwood
Donna Tartt
Anne Sexton
Charlotte Perkins Gilman
Shirley Jackson
That one chick that wrote Ms. Winters and the Wind
Plath
Ursula K Le Guin
Maybe Shelley
Edith Wharton
Louis May Alcott
The Bronte sisters.
Blah.

>> No.441563

OKay, I really do not get this thread.
And heres why....
If a book is writen well, does it matter the sex of the writer, or creed, or race....
I say it does not.
For all I care Earnest Hemmingway could have been a women.
And if that was the case would you still read his/her novels?

>> No.441566

I won't try, because counting in the Roman style I can make it to 99 on one hand. OP is a dickhead though.

>> No.441572

ITT writers with vaginas

>> No.441596

>>441563

Hemmingway would have been a scary woman.

>> No.441608

Shelly
Woolfe
Plath
Meyer
Austen (though I hate her stuff)
FUCK

>> No.441609

>>441563
A woman would not have written such manly literature.

>> No.441611 [SPOILER] 
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Laurell K. Hamilton.

>> No.441615

>>441563

You're missing the point entirely.

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>>441596
>>441596
Here he is as a little girl.

>> No.441663

hhmmmm

Emily Bronte
Ayn Rand (hurr durr ima troll)
Ursula K. Le Guin
Oscar Wilde oh wait she sucked

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441674

>>441563

HEMINGWAY WANT SNOO SNOO

>> No.441676

>>441609
I disagree. I think a women can write anything they want to. Even if it would seem as though the writer would have a penis but really not.

(side note- I refer to male/female, as penis/vagina because that is what the arguement seems to be about.)

>>441615
Here is what I have gathered, there are a few writers with a vagina, and their are others with out. So what point am I missing?

inb4 penis is better than vagina.

>> No.441683

If there's any point to this thread it's that trolling pays off.

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>>441674
Papa would like a word with you.

>> No.441698

>>441676 there are a few writers with a vagina

Have you ever been in a library?

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441702

>>441238
>Evelyn Waugh
>Female

>> No.441710

>>441702

Hasn't seen Lost in Translation. Watch it ASAP.

>> No.441723

>>441557
ROWSDOWER!!!

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>>441698
Trying to be nice, but fucit. Yes I have been to many a library. And yes I mean a few. I know there are tens of thousands of writers of all types.
10,000 vs. 8,000,000,000.... a few.
A few of tham have vaginas, others (still in the realm, {previously stated fact} of a few) do not.
You know I thought /lit/ was smater than this. Thank you for proving said thought wrong.

>> No.441750

>>441746
So you've been to libraries, and you know that woman writers are well-represented there. Where do you get the idea that they are a minority?

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441754

>>441710

Troll or idiot?

>> No.441780

>>441754

What? It's a joke, >>441702 obviously didn't get it. How does that make me a troll/idiot?

>> No.441783

Sarah Vowell
Flannery O'Connor
Zadie Smith
Susanna Clarke
Lydia Davis

FFFFFFUUUUUU

>> No.441785

>>441783
Eudora Welty also.
Take that OP!

>> No.441798

I have no hands, so I guess you're right OP.

(I typed this with my erection)

>> No.441803

Rowling
Reichs
Shelley

Shame

>> No.441818

Why is nobody mentioning Austen jesus fuck.

>> No.441820

>>441750
Here what I don't get, what makes this relavent to anything else?

>> No.441867

>>441820
It's relevant to >>441676.

>> No.441975

>>441546
WHat is this supposed to mean?

>> No.442084

>>441975
I think it just means he doesn't like her writing.

>> No.442104

Pauline reage
gabrielle wittkop
agatha christie

>> No.442107

woolf is pretty much my favourite author ever, but yeah, there aren't a million of them

>> No.442135

Untrue!

James Tiptree Jr.
Madeleine L'Engle
Diane Wynne Jones
Ursula K. Le Guin
Diane Wynne Jones
Patricia Wrede
Connie Willis
Lois McMaster Bujold

All before I was 18.

And Susanna Clarke, but Jonathan & Norrell wasn't published before the above arbitrary cutoff.

>> No.442170

The point is that men are better writers than women.

>> No.442176

>>442170
Selection bias in this post.

>> No.442207

>willa cather
>willa cather
>willa cather
>willa cather
>willa cather

>> No.442236

Maxine Hong Kingston
Flannery O'Connor
Virginia Woolf
Louise Gluck

Hm...

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>> No.442258

joyce carol oates, emma goldman, virginia woolf,mary shelley,simone de beauvoir, jk rowling, H.D. that's 7 but im forgetting a few and no men are not better writers. MOST writers are pathetic.

>> No.442290

Atwood
Oates
Bronte
Bronte
Austin
Pizan
Woolf
Dickenson
Barbara Johnson

>> No.442305

>>442258
>MOST writers are pathetic.

Of course. Most good writers are men.

>> No.442315

>>442305
You're absolutely right.

Relatedly, most writers are men.

>> No.442332

>>442315
Therefore, men are better writers than women.

>> No.442335

can we have less of these childish threads.

>> No.442357

S.E Hinton

>> No.442376

Like and respect are two different things. How can you not respect Plath, Bronte, Austen, Angelou. Oh wait that's only four haha.

>> No.442518

>>442376
Yes. The question posed was for authors you like AND respect.

>> No.442746

Virginia Woolf, Emily Bronte, Jane Austen, Sylvia Plath...

Damn.

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>> No.442762

isabel allende

>> No.442767

I wanna try.

Plath, Austen, Rowling, Woolf, Ruhl, Lee

HA! Six.

>>441236
Evelyn Waugh is a dude.

>> No.442786

>>441388
She's a talentless hack. The bluest Eye was a pile of politicized "oh white people aren't pretty" garbage, and I'm Asian.
She should be a "black" politician, not a writer. She has no sense of aesthetics or style.

Charlotte Bronte

I haven't read much..

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>my face when no Susan Minot

>> No.444303

Stephanie meyer

>> No.444308

ITT: no Hilary Mantell

no Jeanette Winterson

no Pat Barker

no Edna O'Brien

no Penelope Lively

no Sarah Waters

no Marge Piercy

god, /lit/, you are shit

>> No.444309

>>441236
>evelyn waugh

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>> No.444313

zero

i cant count to zero on my hand

>> No.444323

ITT the old boys club

>> No.444328

>>444323
ITT burgeoning pretenders usurping

>> No.444332

>>444323

ITT: people use terms they don't understand

>> No.444340

>>444332
ITT i will not stand for these wild accusations

>> No.444342

>>444340
ITT sitting for wild accusations

>> No.444346

>>444342
lady gaga is a man!

>> No.444358

>>442258
>Simone de Beauvoir

Finally. Thank you!

>> No.445002

cunts can only spew retardation out of their cunts. I FEEL THIS I FEEL THAT. they are fucking noobs when it comes to writing lol i can understand why so many woman authors decides to write under a male pseudonym like that totally untalented Karen Blixen

>> No.445033

>>444358
>>444358
If Sartre is already such an awful writer, why would want to read his bedmaid?

>> No.445036 [DELETED] 

>>445033
If me can't write, why would want to read at all?

>> No.445155

>>441238

>> No.445171

>>445036
meh, my french is way better than your English.

>> No.445174

Danielle Steel

>> No.445178

I respect only kollontai and myself. All the others should be strangled with a healthy niggercock.

>> No.445181

Bujold, Hobb, LeGuin.

Eh.

>> No.446769

Let's not forget Annie Dillard or Christina Rosetti.