what is the relation between choice and belief? can one ever choose what they believe? and, if not, does this mean: [spoiler]determinism[spoiler] ?[/spoiler][/spoiler]

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rapture !KOfSjbMyF. Sat Nov 16 16:11:11 2013 No.4276067 [DELETED]

what is the relation between choice and belief? can one ever choose what they believe? and, if not, does this mean: determinism ?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 16 17:05:42 2013 No.4276172 In my opinion any choice or belief we feel is an illusion, and we aren't actually creating energy in the universe, which is what free will must imply.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 16 17:06:42 2013 No.4276177 >>4276067 we can never know for sure but because we innately perceive an underlying, causal will behind our actions it at least suggests that there could be free will. i'm pretty sure thats what Kant thought.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 04:36:53 2013 No.4277764 >>4276067 You do not choose what you believe. Yes to determinism. I'm sure bullshit arguments will follow. spare me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 04:42:52 2013 No.4277778 >>4276067 There is no choice. I don't understand where this idea comes from. It doesn't even make sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 04:43:52 2013 No.4277781 >>4276177 That's irrational, by that line of thinking all delusion is truth

>>	awesomeguy !sRg2SqGvH. Sun Nov 17 04:45:52 2013 No.4277784 In my opinion any choice or belief we feel is an illusion, and we aren't actually creating energy in the universe, which is what free will must imply.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 05:09:55 2013 No.4277823 Superstition.

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