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4256029 No.4256029[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why does /lit/ like this crackpot so much?

>> No.4256039

and so on and so on

>> No.4256038

He psychoanalyzes films, so they think he's fun.

>> No.4256040

/lit/ hates him
I like him, I think he's very insightful and seldom wrong, but both his readers and opponents misunderstand him a lot of the time
but you know, "he talks funny and has a subreddit" so fuck him

>> No.4256041

why do people hate him so much?

>> No.4256048

>>4256040
>/lit/ hates him

no it doesn't

>> No.4256061

>>4256048
I hate him.

>> No.4256066

>>4256061
well played

but i'm not buying it

>> No.4256070

>>4256048
Yes it does; the dominant popular opinion is that he's a pop-philosophical 'crackpot' and people who go against this opinion get torn to shreds

>> No.4256076

>>4256070
nah

>> No.4256077
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4256077

Slavoj's a hack from the Communist bloc
He talks like his mouth's full of feces
Everyone loves his Youtube video schlock
No one reads his Lacanian theses

Because it seems such a waste of time
To get what Freudo-Marx is about
Man if that's the new Left then I'm
Clocking out

>> No.4256086

He's fun and interesting and he makes a lot of points that ring true.

Fuck you guys, I like him. I wish I could hang out with him and have a glass of fucking fruit juice.

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http://keshek.tumblr.com/

>> No.4256112

Chomsky rekd this hack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRqPbwwYS0

>> No.4256143

>>4256112
he did call lacan a charlatan right?

>> No.4256153

>>4256143
Yes

>> No.4256156

>>4256112

Why do people like this crackpot so much?

>> No.4256160

>>4256156
>chomsky
>crackpot

You can accuse the man of a lot of things, that isn't one of them.

>> No.4256166

>>4256029
He's the clown who saved us from the soup of postmodernism.

>> No.4256168

>>4256112
That old grammarian? Who cares?

>> No.4256260

>>4256160
>Anarcho-syndicalist
>not a crackpot

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>>4256077
10/10 chortled mightily

>> No.4258528

>ask why we like him
>doesn't say why we shouldn't

Ok

>> No.4258532

>>4256168
chomsky is at least as influential a philosopher as zizek. In my opinion he is far more important.

>> No.4258539

>>4256112
Zizek rekd this hack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tLz_9xmLKI

>> No.4258540

I like him, he is an amusing clown.

>> No.4258545

>>4258539
zizek's response was objectively the weaker critique.

>> No.4258550

>>4258545
haha I get it

>> No.4258598

>>4256029
>Why does /lit/ like this crackpot so much?
Because they haven't read him.
>Why does /lit/ hate this genius so much?
Because they haven't read him.

>> No.4258619

Read Nussbaum instead.

Zizek is entertaining but I doubt he's converting anyone to Orthodox Marxism. He's probably well aware of this and plays it off ironically.

>> No.4259276

>>4258619
>pop-philosopher with all the right opinions to have in polite company
>good

>> No.4259357

Zizek is highly entertaining, that's why I like him. He's also endearing. I mean just look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0zjfTQTnte8#t=1625

(note the time, embedding fucks things up)

Isn't he great?

>> No.4259361

Cause he uses intellectual jargon in an easily usable pseudo intellectual way.

He is the king of lit.

>> No.4259379

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80X0pbCV_t4

>> No.4259383

He's the Socrates of our time. Deranged, ugly, neurotic but somehow charming and he manages to ask questions that nobody else sees the need for.

>> No.4259405

>>4259379
god, i saw that a couple of days back and was disgusted but now i find it funny as fuck.

>> No.4259422

>>4259357
oh fuck off
Fuck anyone who likes him because he's "entertaining" and fuck anyone who watched youtube clips instead of reading the books
this is the reason nobody takes him seriously here

>> No.4259446

>>4259422
>implying his books have any content

by saying that you just show that you havent read any real philosophy

>> No.4259593

>>4259383

I agree with this, although to a much lesser extent. He is obviously not at Socrates' level but he's is in a similar position. Plus, just face it, the man has more charisma than just about any other intellectual that steps into the public sphere. He makes it interesting and fun for normal people to pay attention to philosophy, even if what he's saying, comes off as total bullshit.

>> No.4259597

>>4259446
See
>>4259422
>fuck anyone who watched youtube clips instead of reading the books

>> No.4259613

So, his think is basically a return to orthodox marxism? Plus Freud/Lacan?

>> No.4259615

>>4259613
>thing

>> No.4259639

>>4259615
Why are you correcting a post that did a perfectly good job of representing his actual pronunciation the first time around, and so on?

>> No.4259715

>>4259639
I actually was correcting myself, but thinking back, i shouldn't have
Also, hasn't Lacanian marxism been around for a long time now? What novelty is Zizek bringing to the table exactky?

>> No.4259764

He's extremely necessary.

>> No.4259837

>>4259639
>>4259715
bump

>> No.4259842

>>4259422
No, the fact that people don't take him seriously is his own fault. He's a pleasant clown. He profiles himself that way.

>> No.4259853

>>4256029
ITT: People who know haven't even read enough philosophy to comprehend how vastly limited their knowledge is try to support the ravings of the most blatant and brazen pseudo-intellectual fraud of the last 100 years.

I'm done with 4chan. I'm really wasting my time trying to communicate with people this arrogantly ignorant.

>> No.4259861

>>4259853
cu2morrow

>> No.4259867

>>4259764
Not really. If he didn't exist, smarter people would possibly be given a platform.

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4259871

>>4259853

>> No.4259877

>>4256029
Why everyone who calls zizek a crackpot seems to be either analytic or someone who knows very little about philosophy?

>> No.4259879 [DELETED] 

>>4259867
I think you have to use a lot of gel or something.
What did they use in the 19th century?

>> No.4259880

>>4259877
They're newfags.

>> No.4259883

>>4259877
Why do half of you always accidentally a word or have terrible grammar all of a sudden, did I miss a meme or something?

>> No.4259885

>>4259877
you repeat yourself

>> No.4259891

>>4259883
Because english is not my first language.

>> No.4259898

No guise, but seriously. What is he bringing to the political debate that is new?

>> No.4259904

i feel like he's playing everyone who's into him

>> No.4259910

>>4259898
His politics kind of suck balls, it's mostly just warmed over eurocommunism. People like him because he says interesting things about Lacan and Hegel and movies.

>> No.4259961

>>4259898
The label of cultural critic might sound like hair-splitting but it's basically correct; he's more notable as a very precise voice expressing a basically fixed ideological reading than his contributions to theory itself (though his 'filling in' of some of certain grey areas in Lacan shouldn't be ignored); his work is the definitive reading of Hegel through Lacan and one of if not the best dissections of the postmodern condition and ideology
>>4259904
Please elaborate

>> No.4260013

>>4259961
This.

His role as a political thinking is overblown by people who basically only read his guardian articles and watch videos of him on youtube.

His most important, and interesting part, is his reading of german idealism and how he uses it to criticize postmodernity.

If anyone wants to understand a little bit better the question he tackles this is a good page:

http://www.iep.utm.edu/zizek/

But he by his own admission is no political figure and his concerns are restricted just to the specialists.

So why does he have this great popularity?

My guess is that he is popular because he manages to bring back to life, and make it understandable for the modern reader, ideas from our past that have been long forgotten.

In a time when the only ontology (and epistemological stance) is naturalism and when the political debate is divided between the nozick/rawls line he gives alternatives.

For those who want to escape naturalism without turning to religious views he offers a discussion of kant and hegel's metaphysics and a materialism that understands their conclusions.

For religious people tired of being bound by leap of faith and individual relationships with God he gives an image of a subversive christianity that can tackle history.

Those who are tired of postmodern relativism and dissolution of the subject, zizek talks of the political subject.

Those who are unsatisfied by the liberal conception of freedom find the lenin and mao quotes.

Heck even the burkean conservatives can find solace in his criticism of individualism.

Obviously none of this ideas are new but they gain new life by his work of synthesis, by managing to expose people to things that they would not have read before. Zizek brings hegel to the theory kids and lacan to the marxists, materialism to christianity, and serious contemporary philosophy to layman.

>> No.4260035

>>4260013
10/10 best new post
thanks man, i think i get it now

>> No.4260055

because Zizek is in tune with a lot of the perceived popular philosophy of today and opposed to traditional Christian scholasticism

>> No.4260064

>>4260055
Also traditional christian scholasticism rules the american university today under the guise of analytic philosophy.

>> No.4262268

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