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I have just finished the novel "The Stranger". I would like to discuss it with others if you please, it was intriguing but Part 2 was a bit disappointing compared to Part 1.

>> No.4248145

I've read this when I was in my teens, and I could identify with the protagonist.

I've re-read it recently and I couldn't help but sleep. Very dull and very boring.

>> No.4248192

>>4248133
The book was boring and Meursault is an idiot.
I remember reading this in high school and all the edgy kids loved it because "muh absurdism". What they failed to realize is even Camus didn't follow that stupid and self contradicting philosophy.
I haven't read Camus' other works, but if they are anything like this, there is no way he should have won a Nobel prize.

>> No.4248199

>>4248192
I had the misfortune to read The Plague. Don't read it. Seriously. Holy shit.

>> No.4248211

>>4248133
I was a self proclaimed meursault in high school
i need to re-read it, but i loved it the first two times
also op, i think it's stupid to compare the two parts

>> No.4248207

>>4248133

The "point" of the Stranger, much like other absurdist literature, is to make the reader frustrated with the inaction of the protagonist. It is always the inaction of the protagonist that dooms him to a horrible fate, thus encouraging the reader/viewer through negative example to go out and change his life. You're not supposed to entirely identify with the protagonist, and anyone who thinks Mersault is an idiot is right. That's the point of it.

>> No.4248216

>>4248199
I wasn't exactly planning on reading it, but I had heard that he became better with time.
I'll take your word for it, though.

>> No.4248218

>>4248207
Camus did such a good job that the book sucked

>> No.4248226

>>4248218
why the fuck does it matter if you liked the protagonist or not

>> No.4248234

>>4248218
Was this comment really worth posting?

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>>4248133
>I would like to discuss it with others if you please, it was intriguing but Part 2 was a bit disappointing compared to Part 1.
You are wrong.

>> No.4248247

>>4248226
I didn't say that did I? It's just that everything else sucked. The story sucked, the characters sucked, the point was made apparent by people who don't identify with the protag (anyone not a teen), the prose sucks.

It's just a boring meandering waste of time. I daresay he could have reduced it to a short story or an even shorter novella without losing anything at all.

>> No.4248249

>>4248145
>and I could identify with the protagonist.

Same. This applied to Sartre's Nausea too.

Then I realized I was being a melodramatic faggot.

>> No.4248256

>>4248234
You replied. I win.

>> No.4248264

>>4248249
I read Nausea too after my teenage years. Man, these french existentialists are overrated huh?

>> No.4248274

>>4248247
my post was referencing the post you quoted in which the other anon addressed common protagonist related criticisms of the stranger

>> No.4248280

>>4248249

I identified with the protagonist in Nausea, he was pretty much me during muh existential crisis

>> No.4248289

>>4248274
Perhaps you should quote when you are addressing a post with a quote you are actually addressing to

>> No.4248298

>>4248239
OP here, but how?

>> No.4248306

>>4248289
let's not convolute this any further, i'm just going to assume you're new

>> No.4248308

>>4248306
been wasting time since 2005 bro

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>>4248256
pic very related

>> No.4248444

>>4248422
I win again.

>> No.4248468

>>4248249
>>4248145
Really? When I read it I didn't identify with Mersault at all, but I did empathize with him.

>>4248133
Part 2 was a lot more enjoyable for me, and his speech with the priest sums up the book pretty well.

>As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself—so like a brother, really—I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again.
I found that pretty poignant and emotionally affecting.

Camus, on the whole, isn't really my style, but there were some parts to the book that I enjoyed and I understood the character even if I disagreed.