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>mfw i wanted to read Ulysses
>mfw i thought it would be better to read the plot before
>mfw i found out its another fucking stupid novel about shitty and boring human relationship.
>mfw ive read alot of books in search for a book with an astonishing idea
>mfw i could never find one

Fuck /lit/

>> No.4216654

>doesn't like a book because one of it's many themes is about human relationship
You're not gonna find many books to read like that. honestly the Wikipedia article does Ulysses no justice and should just be experienced.

>> No.4216656

>in search for a book with an astonishing idea
What exactly do you mean by that?

>> No.4216660

>mfw ive read alot of books in search for a book with an astonishing idea

Read scifi novels and short-stories.

e.g. http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm

>> No.4216659

>falling for trollbait

>> No.4216661

>>4216654
>many themes

Are you fucking kidding me? Turning a classic epic into an everyday journey is considered many themes now? FUCK THAT SHIT

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>>4216661

>> No.4216672

>>4216656

99.99% novels are written about the relationships between humans. I dont want to read this boring shit that has been done a billion time throughout the shitty history of literature.

>> No.4216675

>>4216660

Only a few books got me and those were absurd, surreal or sci-fi.

>> No.4216680

Maybe Nausea is the kind of thing you are looking for.

>> No.4216684

>>4216672
Any plot where people interact is going to touch on the topic of human relationships. Do you have a problem with romantic relationships, or just all kinds of human interaction?

>> No.4216687

I hope you know that almost all fiction is based around human relationship.

>> No.4216688

>>4216684

This shit is fucking boring. It was okay for may the first 10/000 or even 100/000 books written in history but not every single fucking book god dammit. Im tired of this shit.

>> No.4216692

>>4216688
Tired of books about humans interacting????

>> No.4216693

>>4216687

Thats why i hate it. Literature is so fucking pleb i cant even think about it anymore. This act of circle jerking the outworn and carious idea of analyzing the human relationship disgusts me.

>> No.4216698

>>4216693
ok

>> No.4216702

Sunhawk Mk.2

>> No.4216704

>>4216693
You see, the reason why you find it so boring is because you aren't seeing the underlying themes/symbolism. Characters often stand in for political ideologies, philosophies, archetypes, etc.
I can see why you'd be bored if all you were seeing was the vulgar surface of idle chatter and gossip between people.

>> No.4216714

>>4216688
Well I'm going to pretend you actually answered my question with "option B. Human interaction in general," instead of linking to my post with more irrelevant whining like it's 2005 and you're listening to the new My Bloody Valentine album.

In realistic terms (in other words, disregarding fantastical fiction), human interaction is the most complex activity we face, and we face it daily at that. Of course most fiction is going to be about that, because it's where the most possibility is most readily explored.

If that bothers you, art is not for you, and you would do much better spending time with craft type hobbies or educating yourself in an analytic field. Ain't no shame in that.

What there is shame in is invading a community based around something that clearly doesn't suit your tastes just to waste their time bitching about how their common interest doesn't suit your taste. You could be educating yourself to become the next great contributor to a field, but you'd rather come and just bitch about a field you're obviously not going to contribute to and waste all our time.

>> No.4216716

>>4216704

>you aren't seeing the underlying themes/symbolism. Characters often stand in for political ideologies, philosophies, archetypes, etc.

There is not an infinite amount of themes, symbolism, philosophies or the goddamn archetypes you stupid 6th grade bastard. If you read 300 books, youre done with this shit.

>> No.4216720

>>4216716
haha, oh god. Are you serious? Do you understand at all how complex the world is?

>> No.4216726

>>4216720

>World is complex

Just because youre a dense motherfucker it doesnt mean i have to be like you.You dont know shit faggot just fuck off.

>> No.4216732

>>4216726
I hate to say it, but top fucking lel.

>> No.4216733

>>4216714

>If that bothers you, art is not for you

You're literally too stupid to insult

>> No.4216730

>>4216720
In a word: no.

In two words: no, obviously.

In ten words: no, no, autist, no, no oh god my sides no

>> No.4216743

>>4216733
You may think you wrote:

>You're literally too stupid to insult

But what you actually wrote was:

>You make a good point that I can't refute, and I'm obviously trolling, so I'm going to just insult you instead

>> No.4216746

>>4216643
Dude, I did exactly that yesterday... exepct that I started reading the first 2 chapters, then looked up if it's going on like this --- yes, it is... well, shit...

>> No.4216764

Ulysses is praised because it is a puzzle that English professors can nut themselves over trying to find how each chapter is related to the Odyssey. There I said it.

>> No.4216770

>>4216764

>Remixing a classic with your boring story to make it look cool
>Pleb as fuck

If there is only one example of the embodiment of the word pretentious in literature, its this shitty book.

>> No.4216771

>not reading it on rapgenius

http://poetry.rapgenius.com/James-joyce-ulysses-chap-1-telemachus-lyrics

>> No.4216774

It's a good book. Not as incredible as some say (I personally prefer Portrait and Dubliners) but it's funny, clever and quite heartwarming and feels human.

>> No.4216776

>>4216743
notice he can't even respond to this. what drives people like him to wake up in the morning?

>> No.4216777

>on /lit/ for first time
>first post I see is about ulysses
>ofc

>> No.4216778

>>4216672
What makes you think that anyone else wants to read your tedious rants about Ulysses? For someone who demands stimulation you're a boring fucker.

>> No.4216785

>>4216776
Probably the hope that their memory of being ridiculed for being a massive fucking moron was only a terrible, terrible nightmare, and the misguided belief that upon waking they'll find themselves in a brave new world where they have an IQ in the triple digits and nobody ever talks down to them.

>> No.4216791

>>4216776
the urge to troll gullible children like you

>> No.4216806

>>4216785
lol you are probably one of those fuckers who barely make the 120s but think they are intelligent as fuck
pleb

>> No.4216808

>>4216806
pls stop trolling, this is a CHristian board.

>> No.4216854

>>4216791

>I dont understand the idea
>It must be troll

>> No.4216860

>>4216854
Well there's an alternative, but we were being optimistic and giving you the benefit of the doubt

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>>4216860

>we

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>>4216730

>autist

>> No.4216903

>>4216643
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/36-lessons-vivec

>> No.4216914

>>4216733
you understand that calling him stupid was insulting him, right?

>> No.4216916

>you will never be as euphoric as OP

>> No.4216926

>>4216808
lol
>christian

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>>4216643
Just fucking read some Kurt Vonnegut and Russian Deconstructionism if you want to find something meaningful unique and filled with "astonishing ideas".

Crack open Galapagos, or Breakfast of Champions, or Lolita. Don't blame your own unfamiliarity with cool books on literature as a whole.

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>>4216916

>using buzzwords for the billionth time to look cool

>> No.4216935

>>4216714
>it's 2005 and you're listening to the new My Bloody Valentine album.
implying

>> No.4216943

>>4216929

>Thread is about hating books based on human relationships.
>Recommends me lolita

You're too pleb to get in this conversation.

>> No.4216944

>>4216933
>implying his balls aren't already cut

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>>4216943
>Book about human relationships
>Lolita not being about the twisted, narcissistic, grotesque nature of "love" and how it is often simply projecting our own histories and expectations of another person onto them, warping all perspectives of them into these idealized forms even when it's "evil" or "sick" to do so.

Wow, you don't actually read books, do you?

Maybe go read Madame Bovary and take a few literature classes before you pretend to actually know what "human relationships" are to begin with, you laughably uneducated gradeschool troll.

But no seriously. Go read some Vonnegut. Almost all of his books center around very strange relationships between a man and a woman in twisted unconventional ways.

>> No.4216956

>>4216949

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the perfect example of why reading books wont make you more intelligent.

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>>4216956
>being this flustered at an entire thread derailing your troll attempt with basically articulating how retarded you sound.

Oh my. You're such a cutie, tripfag-chan.

>> No.4216963

>>4216949
>>4216961

Did you even read the thread stupid? OP is complaining about books being all about human relationships and you suggest him a book about human relationship? Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.4216998

>>4216643
>>4216688
>>4216733
not even from this board, but this guy sounds like a total idiot
are lit trips all shitty pretentious bitches?

what is OP even looking for?

>> No.4217013

Am curious though.
Trolling, bashing, shitposting etc aside can OP or anyone in this board give one good example of a novel that doesn't include human interaction?

>> No.4217017

>>4217013
Something by Tao Lin.

>> No.4217030

>>4216998

Something that is far beyond the imagination of a pleb like you.

>> No.4217028

>>4217017
>mfw this might be true since Tao acts like an aspie.

>> No.4217106

>>4217017

>Tao lin
>Not about human relationships

Nigga you just went full retard

>> No.4217136

>>4217106
I was IRONICALLY referencing the fact that Lin's stilted writing is so devoid of any "humanness" it could as well be describing some inanimate objects. Why am I even talking to a tripfag.

>> No.4217140

>>4217030
I know you don't actually know what you're talking about, that's why you're relying on us to point you in a direction
>I want a book but can't even describe what it is it's so beyond anything
what you're really saying is
>I'm a dumbfuck so thoroughly inept I can't readily transpose thought and language to better describe something, so I''ll claim it doesn't exist and rely on others to present it to me, all the while giving my internet ego the illusion of intellectualism through the implication that 'plebeian' society and it's writers lacks sufficient stimulant for my mind.

>> No.4217144

>>4217136

> IRONICALLY

Men are talking faggot, gtfo.

>> No.4217145

Do you think that the OP might not understand human interaction, which is why he is acting out? Autism, perhaps?

>> No.4217148

>>4217144
But I'm a girl.

>> No.4217153

>>4217140
>that's why you're relying on us to point you in a direction

I didnt ask you or anybody here anything you stupid fuck. I was complaining about literature and the fact that is too fucking pleb.

>>I want a book but can't even describe what it is

Yes i can and i did. But you're literally too dumb to understand a simple description.

>> No.4217157

>>4217148

Why would anybody be interested in a girl who reads books?

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>>4217157
Christian, is that you?

>> No.4217222

>>4217153
>I was complaining about literature

on a scale of 1 - 10, guess how offended I am by somebody who has literally declared themselves a little bitch.

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>>4217222
tripple #rekt

>> No.4217226

>>4217222

Unfunny dipshit

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>>4217226
u cry now? its okay to cry.

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>>4217226

>> No.4217477

>>4217246

You having a giggle there m8? ill bash yo fookin head in i swear on me mums m8

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>>4217225

no