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Inspired by the OP pic here:
>>4183434
What is the best argument against suicide?

My fave is Camus's 'Should I kill myself or have a cup of coffee?' question, where the premise of absurdism argues for coffee (or whatever it analogizes to) over suicide.

>> No.4184985

absurdisms' arguments are worthless. please go try that trite garbage on someone who's depressed

>> No.4184987

Not OP, but could someone please explain what the "imagine Sisyphus happy" thing means?

I mean, on one level he seems to be saying that life has no objective purpose or meaning, but that we should toil on regardless, but couldn't this be interpreted as a bourgeoisie ideology, in the sense that he seems to be telling miserable workers not to fight against poor working conditions (for example) since life sucks, and it's better to grit your teeth and keep pushing the boulder uphill every day rather than offing yourself or getting butthurt over it

>> No.4184996

>>4184987
Not really at all; the distinction between an inevitable and changeable condition is certainly not a negligible one. Workers' conditions can be altered for the better, and so anything short of an alteration will also be short of a 'true' victory; this in no way conflicts with the Sisyphus analogy, even though that analogy does, I'd argue, have its own problems.

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4185011

>The best argument against suicide:
You first have to write your Phd. thesis. Picrelated.

>> No.4185027

>>4184978
>What is the best argument against suicide?
the best arguments, in my experience, are personal ones. my argument against suicide is my wife, and yours will be different.

>> No.4185033

If I was gonna kill myself my suicide note would probably be, "Better to stop short than fill to the brim."

>> No.4185051

I don't think a writer could ever commit suicide. Do you? A writer would be too busy working on the note all God damn year. Trying to get it just right. First draft, second draft, third revision, whole new ending. Finally, he'd turn it into a book proposal and have a reason to live.

>> No.4185060

>>4185051

too bad tons of writers have committed suicide. They're probably the group most likely to.

>> No.4185065

>>4185051
a romantic if categorically untrue statement. writers are very prone to suicide

>> No.4185064

>>4185051
nice

>> No.4185077

>>4184978
That quote is completely taken out of context.

>> No.4185093

>>4185065
>a romantic if categorically untrue statement
you can't hear it but I'm mocking you in my most acerbic nasally voice. Faggot, just accept a funny and clever statement for what it is, why do you have to fag the place up?

Cue faggot trying to defend his faggotry

>> No.4185097

>>4185093
>just accept a funny and clever statement for what it is
If I could simply accept a thing for what it was then I wouldn't be in a thread discussing suicide.

>> No.4185098

>>4185097
>a thread discussing arguments against suicide.
fixed that for ya

>> No.4185102

>>4185098
I'm sorry, here I am projecting again. It's the rabid sense of self-involvement that causes it.

>> No.4185103

>>4185065

Writers are prone to suicide because we process things through the eyes of our specialty.

Unfortunately for them, language is fantastically ill-equipped for reasoning out reality.

People who cling to it are, almost without exception, insufferable - as much to themselves as to those around them.

It makes for good reading, but isn't particularly compatible with "living happy and well-adjusted lives."

>> No.4185107

>>4185077
Yeah, I don't understand it at all

>> No.4185128

>>4184978

There was some kind of motivational post capped from one of the other boards which said something like: 'If you are at such a low ebb that you feel like nothing is worth enough to you to stop you killing yourself, then you have reached a point where you have literally nothing to lose. And if you have nothing to lose, than anything is possible for you.'

Something like that? Anyone got it?

Of course, this is all rather besides the point, because for most people suicide is not a rational decision.

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>>4185128
>Anyone got it?
yup, it's a pretty old one

>> No.4185149

>>4185103

Or it could just be the whole faggot-ass roodypoo Romantic stereotype of the lost poet.

Boohoo, I'm special, no one understands me and how I see the Truth. Keep up that facade and you might do the world a favour by mckilling yourself.

>> No.4185163

>>4185149
>roodypoo
now that's a blast from the past

>> No.4185198

>>4185149
>roodypoo
wow that one took me a second