Zizek

[Anonymous No.4175851]

/Lit/'s favorite philosopher just keeps getting more publicity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS_Lzo4S8lA

What think?

[Anonymous No.4175852]

He's been on tv several times you know..

[Anonymous No.4175856]

>>4175851
he's promoting his movie I guess.

Filthy capitalist swine.

[Anonymous No.4175881]

>>4175852
I'm aware. I just find it odd that there is such a continual media demand for him. I understand that he's somewhat entertaining, but come on; who is going to remember any of Zizek's ideas after he dies? Why not give a philosopher who actually has something profound to say the media attention he/she deserves? I guess it really does come down to whatever is marketable.

[Anonymous No.4175883]

>>4175851
wow fuck yuropoors

[Anonymous No.4175889]

>>4175881
will there ever be another world-changing philosopher in history again?

[Anonymous No.4175892]

>>4175883
>>/int/

[Anonymous No.4175893]

>>4175889
His name is Sam Harris and he's still alive, pleb.

I just made myself depressed.

[Anonymous No.4175894]

>>4175889
Yes

[Anonymous No.4175898]

I've never hated him as much as I do now after watching that. What a penis, hope he gets assasinated.

[Anonymous No.4175900]

>>4175889
Doubtable. Philosophy has really taken a backseat to New Atheism and Scientism recently and I don't see that changing.

[Anonymous No.4175905]

>>4175851
>CAN I GIVE YOU SOME FUCKING FRUIT JUICE

I like him, he's funny. His critique of ideology starts from something immediately relatable, which is part of the reason why he's so hated by pseudo-intellectuals. He does however makes very interesting points about a lot of films, and he's something as rare as a well trained thinker who gives a fuck about politics. The actual, practical kind of politics, not just the theoretical. We need him badly right now in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.4175910]

>>4175900
it's the new enlightenment

[Anonymous No.4175912]

>>4175905
IT'S TIME TO THINK
NOT TO ACT!
WE MUST THINK!
*sniffles and rubs nose*

[Anonymous No.4175915]

>>4175851
Good.

[Anonymous No.4175919]

>>4175889
There's a video of him right in the OP
But seriously
>>4175905
>I like him, he's funny. His critique of ideology starts from something immediately relatable, which is part of the reason why he's so hated by pseudo-intellectuals.
Exactly this.

[Anonymous No.4175926]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DudgWusxQ8

[Anonymous No.4175928]

>>4175905
>We need him badly right now in my opinion.
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. We are truly in desperate need of someone to give Leftist interpretations of film.

[Anonymous No.4175935]

>>4175928
>believing that's the only thing he does
>being this oblivious

[Anonymous No.4175939]

>>4175928
You behaving this way is exactly why we need Zizek

[Anonymous No.4175941]

>>4175935
It's easy to fall into that misconception if all you've ever done is seen Youtube videos of him and maybe read The Year of Dreaming Dangerously or something like that.

[Anonymous No.4175945]

>>4175935
That's a bit of a jump for you to make. I never implied that he only gives Leftist interpretations of film, but it does seem to be the only notable thing he's doing right now.

>>4175939
Do get on your knees every night and pray to Zizek as your lord and savior? Pathetic celebrity worship ITT.

[Anonymous No.4175952]

>>4175945
>blah blah u r sheeple

Shouldn't you be in civics class?

[Anonymous No.4175964]

>>4175889
No philosopher ever changed the world, it's the other way around.

[Anonymous No.4175969]

>>4175893
this post made me vomit

[Anonymous No.4175998]

>>4175964
>Who is Plato
>Who is Aquinas
>Who is Descartes
>Who is Nietzsche

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.4176004]

>>4175851
Thanks for allowing me to read youtube comments on a political video, dick.

>Are you kidding me? Socialism, fascism, and communism are all the same! Even capitalism has been transformed to fit the criteria of socialism! WTF do you call bank bailouts,Capitalism? Not I, says the guy that knows how to read! I'm not falling for the old banana in the tail pipe! All of these forms of Govt are test marketed by the same original source until one can take over to openly rule instead of ruling in secret with all of them separately! Please wake up folks the game is bigger than govt

Communism=fascism proof right here
Please wake up folks.

[Anonymous No.4176008]

>>4175998
Uh, you might have a point if you said Marx or something, but all of those guys? Not so sure if the world would be that different had they not existed.

[Anonymous No.4176009]

>/lit/'s favorite philosopher
>not Max Stirner

[Anonymous No.4176014]

>>4176009
The idea of having favorites is just a spook, bro.

[Anonymous No.4176015]

>>4176009

is he actually gaining recognition in general or is it just a /lit/ thing?

[Anonymous No.4176027]

>>4176008
>Implying all of Western Philosophy isn't a 'footnote to Plato'
>Implying Aquinas didn't set the foundation for Theology and Catholicism
>Implying Descartes didn't create philosophy of Mind.
>Implying Nietzsche didn't fuel Nazism, create philosophical Geneology, inspire Leftism, create the Will to Power, etc.

But I agree with you about Marx. But he isn't really a philosopher. He's a political theorist, imo.

[Anonymous No.4176037]

>>4175889
Please. Philosophers have only ever changed the world. A pity, too, 'cuz the point is really to interpret it instead.

[Anonymous No.4176045]

>>4176015

He's always had a lot of reverence in anarchist circles and been ignored (shunned, even) anywhere else in philosophy.

Nietzsche was far safer to have the youth read. Stirner was too clear and thorough in his arguments, and too freedom-loving.

[Anonymous No.4176049]

>>4175998
>Who is Plato
nobody
>Who is Aquinas
the guy who influenced the church who influenced the world, but then again the church probably would have done what it wanted with or without any sort of 'grounding'.
>Who is Descartes
nobody
>Who is Nietzsche
nobody

you might have a case with locke and political philosophers, but again only indirectly through actual legislation and historical events.
not trying to be ungenerous but if you think the average agitator or person out rioting in the streets has read the people whose ideas he says he stands for you've got another thing coming.

[Anonymous No.4176052]

>>4176037
science has changed the world much more than philosophy, lately I think. Just look at the industrial revolution. A number of scientific and engineering discoveries has led to a change in human society never before seen

[Anonymous No.4176054]

>>4176014

It would be to our linguistic disadvantage to literally avoid all abstractions. Having something as a "favorite" does not decide who I am or control me, or explain "me" as some permanent thing. But it is useful in discussion to call something a "favorite."

[Anonymous No.4176056]

>>4175889
No, they're too busy interpreting it.

[Anonymous No.4176067]

>>4176052
Oh boy, not this argument again, where we talk about whether or not science ultimately depends on philosophy!

(It doesn't, but to simply do away with philosophy would leave the knowledge we attain through science woefully incomplete.)

>>4176049
>you might have a case with locke and political philosophers, but again only indirectly through actual legislation and historical events
And the influence of scientists has only really happened through inventions and devices that people have engineered, rather than through the simple scientific knowledge itself. Culture and knowledge and so on do advance, sort of. And philosophy is a part of this, but just in harder-to-measure ways.

[Anonymous No.4176081]

>>4175889
seeing as the western world's philosophical idealogies come from pretty recent sources I would it's a continuing process, yes.

[Anonymous No.4176090]

>>4176056
>>4176037
Marx, plz.

[Anonymous No.4176091]

>>4175926
>ITS LOL CUZ HE TALKS FANNY AND MOVES HIS HANNY FANNY AND HE HAS BEARD AND OMG SUCH FANNY

This is literally every antizizek person.

[Anonymous No.4176105]

>>4176091
I dunno man, I really like Zizek and I thought the video was funny.

Zizek doesn't need you to defend him from jokes, bro.

[Anonymous No.4176098]

anyone watch the perverts guide to ideology yet?

[Anonymous No.4176110]

the problem is that half of you idiots accept any absurd premise that anons pose. changing the world in and of itself isn't something worthy of praise.

[Anonymous No.4176179]

this is the first video I've ever seen of him

His body language is so weird, anyone knows why? He moves like someone with autism or some kind of ADHD.

[Anonymous No.4176182]

>>4176179
It looks like OCD to me.

[Anonymous No.4176201]

>>4176182

I actually asked because I'm studying psychology and working with kids with autism right know, and his movements remind me of the kid's movements so much.

[Anonymous No.4176207]

>>4176201
jest lettin u know that no one cares

[Anonymous No.4176220]

>>4176201
probably a side effect of his insane in intelligence, a lot of the most intelligent people have quirky thing like that

[Anonymous No.4176232]

>>4176067
>And the influence of scientists has only really happened through inventions and devices that people have engineered, rather than through the simple scientific knowledge itself. Culture and knowledge and so on do advance, sort of. And philosophy is a part of this, but just in harder-to-measure ways.
not really. scientific knowledge has more immediate applicability than philosophical knowledge. there isn't much i can do with a hegelian critique, but due to the presence of a much more robust scientific industry, adaptation of theory to engineering and production is much easier and direct. scientific knowledge is much more congenial to commerce and industry than philosophy. this much is obvious.

[Anonymous No.4176241]

>>4176220
>probably a side effect of his insane in intelligence

Please tell me you're trolling. If you actually believe this, you're an idiot. No amount of intelligence results in grabbing at one's nose and pulling at one's shirt compulsively. Zizek is suffering from some form of OCD or nervous disorder.

[Anonymous No.4176247]

>>4176220
>his insane in intelligence
According to /lit/, he's a pseudo-intellectual-charlatan-hack.

[Anonymous No.4176248]

>>4176220

>probably a side effect of his insane in intelligence

[Anonymous No.4176253]

>>4176247
But we're all pseudo-intellectual-charlatan-hacks.

[Anonymous No.4176304]

>>4176253
Speak for you're self.

[Anonymous No.4176312]

>>4176304

0/10

[Anonymous No.4176334]

>>4176304
>you're

I thinl you don't understand that expression, let me give you an example:

You're a pseudo-intellectual-charlatan-hack

Captcha: Nickdoe intendo lol

[Anonymous No.4176350]

Vice is utter worthlessness.

[Anonymous No.4176369]

>>4176091
I think you can like Zizek and still find that video funny

[Anonymous No.4176401]

>>4176334
Your being willfully obtuse

[Anonymous No.4176452]

>>4176401
His what?

[Anonymous No.4176459]

>>4176452
*he's

[Anonymous No.4176464]

>>4175881
>marxism
>profound

[Anonymous No.4176466]

Vice is truly the worst thing in the world.

[Anonymous No.4176486]

>>4176464
>reading comprehension

You lack it.

[Anonymous No.4176490]

Chompsky on Zizek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1dJbqdG_UM

[Anonymous No.4176498]

>>4176049
holy shit you're retarded

[Anonymous No.4176501]

>>4176486
Are you kidding me?

You're the one claiming zizek is anything but a joke.

[Anonymous No.4176505]

>>4175889
of course, we'll only see it after he's dead, though

[Anonymous No.4176506]

zizek tard liberal commie athiest nhilist scum kill and hit run successful
uhm rioiters in streets brutally destort ythem on your own i can pull it off fuckin lib skinny oversized tall kids i can take those niggers
>>4176464
oh cool that nutty libertian same as liberal their both fuckin retard bald guy who thinks hes a philsopher
ya lol
phishlopers dont og o nytoube or the internet
no geniuses ones in currenty exitsnce but uh the goods ones are only in person types thats how it is and forever shall be virtua lreality isn't even tehcncaily possible i guarante it not even desrieable anyways lol just for u virgins cant get any thats why u want it

zizek shit uh kant yeah very genius good exmaple because of him modern sci thats how it works iwth shit tech modern ow goes faster but NO CURRENT GENIUS IN EXISTNECE lol fags you have wikipedia educaiotn or shtire oclege ones even thougth genius doesnt need either
pseuddo-intcitual kids

[Anonymous No.4176508]

>>4175964
lol u dumb kids dont even phishlopy
u know its advanced thikgni and wisdom and shit
not ur dumb potlicals
marx a joke
alexnader the great rescpts artistole and so with that uh phishlopy and ptolicsl well kinda went to shit with uh modern shit
we need more super human beings not you average people inferioirs

nonthless uh philshopy comes up the concept of concept and boom you get modern world
that's ho wit works but it requirues the highest human intellgience possible
good luck with that futuer shit so unthiankable ur fucked athiest nihilist liberal

[Anonymous No.4176511]

stirner lbieral freedom shit muh freedom or osmething yeah freedom for me to kick ur dick in women are to obright to fall for your reatrd shit thats why i siad kick ur dick in not kick ur pussy in ;)

lol netische u fags havent even read him in orgigna lanauge what do u know nothing overrtaed nayways
europeans went to shit that's for sure
its up to u americans now lol plato would live in america anceint greeks would hang out in alsaka fuck yeah they would

europe goes on abotu how much they hate god nad they get smited
dont tell me i didnt warn u though
look at india
they gettn smited
not as hard as you will be though
heh heh

God says, "pronouncing smelling character provoke related remembrances Thinkest reply eager singeth kings something infinitely "

[Anonymous No.4176512]

Why are people searching so hard for a surrogate religion?

Zizek, Chomsky, Dawkins, Sagan, etc. are treated like prophets.

Can the 'secular' public make it any more clear that they're searching for someone else's truth?

[Anonymous No.4176513]

>>4176512
Why are you such a moran?

[Anonymous No.4176514]

>>4176512
cuz reatrds cant think for themsvles

this is what happens when you give everybody who hasnt proven themslves a voice
too bad hitler was a tard as well

this is what happens when the general aren'ts fighting wit the soldeiros and guns are being used in stead of swords and hadn to hand and shit

also when u use kindle instead of realb ook

whatever u shouildnt take those retards seriously you know you are right they just believe they are right not know then come up with emrpical shit to try and justify it lol
god laughs at that

[Anonymous No.4176517]

>>4176513
cant even spell moron rofl
We'll settle in God's court.

yeah ur fucked now kiddo

lol gotta wait this fuckin wrong to post and uh shit wow bascially 4chan is a bunch of dumb kids who take themsvle sseirously

u cant even "troll" or call otherpeople niggers unless ur in that stupid polb oard anymore rofl
lol go out sside and read a book u dumb kids u know its the bets for u
but nope
just stay dubm asthiest libbie kids

[Anonymous No.4176524]

>>4176512
Go to bed Socrates, text is here to stay

[Anonymous No.4176528]

>>4176524
huh the fuck u goin on about oliberal
its u liberals that go on against books nad siht
or u derrida retard text
lol the public can nuke itself

[Anonymous No.4176629]

has zizek ever wrote or done anything on the film Drive (2011) any good movie review sites/reviewers for DRIVE?

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[Anonymous No.4176731]

>>4176662
why would a pretty young woman marry zizek?

[Anonymous No.4176739]

>>4175905
I don't think he has anything to say about politics
sometimes he talks about politics from the realm of philosophy but he usually has very little to say about actual politics

[Anonymous No.4176749]

>>4176731
>hurr durr only dashing men get 6/10s

[Anonymous No.4176800]

>>4176749
she's like a seven and half his age
and he's kind of a fat slob

[Anonymous No.4176824]

>>4176731
That isn't a 12 inch kielbasa he's got hiding in his pants.

[Anonymous No.4176827]

>>4176800
>giant nose
>giant forehead
>jewey hair
>a seven

she just looks good next to him. plus he's fucking relatively well known.

[Anonymous No.4176855]

I read this thread.
Every
Single
Post

None of them had anything to say about his philosophy besides for base criticism or praise that doesn't really tell the reader anything worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.4176857]

>>4176827
still, a six and half his age, while he's a fat slop

[Anonymous No.4176862]

>>4175889

Yes, like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens etc.

[Anonymous No.4176866]

>>4176855
that happens a lot around here. you gotta bring the knowledge yourself.

[Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc No.4176879]

I fucking hate Vice.

[Anonymous No.4176881]

>>4176855
I don't know what his actual philosophy is, but I've not read any of his books, I suppose I should.

What does he have to say, in general?

[Anonymous No.4176882]

>>4176862

Nice try, troll.

[Anonymous No.4176885]

>>4176879

Me too. And I can't figure out why, since deep down inside I know I enjoy their videos... and I kind of want to be friends with their weird hipster-journalists.

[Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc No.4176909]

>>4176885
I find that it funny that their fanbase hates hipsters, yet that's what Vice's content is centered around.

[Anonymous No.4176920]

>>4175851
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS_Lzo4S8lA

Vice started off great. Their videos on Africa and North Korea are on point.

[Anonymous No.4176927]

>>4176909

Hipster, as I understand it, usually means someone with a non-mainstream physical appearance (tattoos, haircuts, piercings, fashion etc.) or an eclectic taste in some form of popular media (music, films etc.)

As such, I don't find this word very useful.

I suppose you could abstract it to refer to the knee-jerk reaction of an identity that is trying to establish itself in the face of a culture that has clearly been manufactured for market purposes, but such a reaction surely subsides within us all, and if a noun refers to everyone it doesn't really refer to anyone.

[Anonymous No.4176950]

>>4176855
OP made shitty post and topic that attracts retards. That's why.

[Anonymous No.4176973]

Anyone fancy some light and fun discussions?
Isn't 'empty subject' just another name of Kant's transcendental subject? How did he come up with that, from Lacan and Fichte (who in turn came up from Kant)? I have the impression that both empty and transcendental subject are the same shit.
I'm speaking ontologically of course.

[Anonymous No.4176998]

>>4176232
>scientific knowledge has more immediate applicability than philosophical knowledge.
Immediate being the key word here. I'd say that changes in the way we think are in the long run more important, and while these are to a large extent dictated by technology, economy, societal configurations, etc., it's also important that we really think through the ways in which our thought changes—philosophers have certainly done this, though they haven't been quite as directly influential as I'd like.

But also, for what it's worth, it's easier to measure scientific progress because science deals a lot with explicit ideas, while philosophy is more likely to embrace uncertainties and vagueness (and thus has an intrinsically harder-to-see sort of progress).

[Anonymous No.4177013]

>>4176909
I think it's important to point out that Vice has been doing the type of journalism it does since they started back in the mid 90s which was A) before anyone else was doing it (in terms of profitable glossies, but of course the precedent was set by innumerable cheap, less professional zines)and B) before the term "hipster" was used to describe the audience that they in large part defined. I noticed that by 2000, pretty much all the up-and-coming magazines had started copying their format both writing and design wise. It wasn't until as late as 2006 or 7 that I first started encountering the word "hipster" either in print, on the internet, or spoken by people.

this is all to say that I feel it's hard to hate them for just being them, it's not their fault that they were the vanguard that everyone followed.

[Anonymous No.4177016]

>>4176973
have u read critiq of pur reesons