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Orwell vs. Huxley.

Who was right, /v/?

>> No.415358
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415358

Stalin.

You wanna argue with him?

>> No.415360

Huxley in the States

>> No.415367

Orwell in the East up until 15 years ago, Huxley in the West.

>> No.415375

It doesn't fucking matter because nobody did anything about it.

>> No.416080
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416080

"Idiocracy" was right.

>> No.416083

Huxley wrote brave new world?

I had no idea...

>> No.416087

Orwell was right at one point in time, but now credit goes to Huxley; he covered the newer generation.

>> No.416094

I wish I'd read all of "Amusing Ourselves to Death." The opening chapter and its argument for Huxley's world won me over though. However, I think there are plenty of Orwellian goings-on.

>> No.416099

No one cares about these anymore. They're sick of hearing about them.

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416120

fine, I'll poast em if OP won't

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>>416120

>> No.416167

I just started reading ape and essence. Huxley is one of my favorite authors but I love orwell too.

>> No.416188

Reading BNW for the first time loving it so far. it relates to the newer generations better. orwell has a few good points though

>> No.416203

>>416120
>>416126
People who think Huxley was "right" and Orwell was "wrong" in their predictions of the future is only thinking about where they live, cause where ever they live lets them get on the internet and browse. If you lived in the Soviet Union while it was still around, or North Korea now, and you were able to know about these two authors you would have quite a different opinion on which one was the most prophetic.
I'll never shake the image out of my mind of a video we saw of the North Korean news coverage when Kim Il-Sung died, the reporter was a constant stream of tears lamenting what would they do, how could they live without their great leader.

>> No.416277

>>416203
PROTIP: She wasn't faking it. Most of the current generation grew up being brainwashed constantly and aren't able to even know what the rest of the world is like or understand the concept of freedom.

>> No.416299

Huxley might be right, but that doesn't make Orwell wrong.

We've done so well at avoiding Orwell's distopia that we turned almost straight toward Huxley's, but other nations haven't fared nearly as well.
It is true, North Korea is perhaps the best example of an entrenched Orwellian situation, though largely low tech. China strikes an odd balance between them, though censorship still takes the lead there, with less built-up areas knowing scarcely more than those in North Korea.

>> No.416312

Anyone who is on 4chan does not agree with Huxley or just doesn't care...

>> No.416328

Oh, and why'd you ask /v/?

>> No.416379

>>416328
Someone's been trolling all the boards with this, though /lit/ and /tg/ are the only ones that seem to know who they are without prompting and tend to have actual conversation on the topic. Seen it rolling around for a couple days now.

The tl;dr results of which seem to be general agreement that Huxley has been more right, while a few point out the Orwell is right in other places.

Also so low level confusion when fa/tg/uys wonder how to run a campaign against a Huxley situation.
I lol'd a bit until I thought about how hard it is to fight against 'the way of the world'. Orwellian you might knock down enough barriers and jackbooted troops to get a message to the ignorant.. but how do you force people to care?

>> No.416379,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>416203
>>416277
PROTIP: It's typical in Korean culture to cry for the dead. Fucking philistines who blindly believe MSM propaganda.