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Have any of you actually practiced Stirner style egoism in real life?

How did it go?

I've adopted it and so far I quit my job suddenly for a new one, quit doing shitty research I didn't really want to do, and stopped wasting my time on a shitty club no one wanted to take part in anyway.

I'm not really sure if I wouldn't have done those things anyways, or if getting rid of some of my spooks is how I found the balls to do it, but whatever.

So far the effects seem relatively positive. I've even started learning to play classical piano, now that I am spending less time on bullshit and more time on what I like.

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A nice picture of a fedora to get the ball rolling.

>> No.4150976

>I am spending less time on bullshit and more time on what I like.

I assume posting stupid stuff on 4chan falls into the "what I like" realm rather than the "bullshit" one.

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>>4150976

You voted for Obama didn't you.

>> No.4150979

I pulled the "Everything is my property, I've merely to attain control over it" line and someone muttered "Thank God" under her breath.

>> No.4150980

>>4150977
No.

>> No.4150984

>>4150979

wat. context?

>> No.4150991

>>4150984
We were talking about solipsism and nihilism in a group and I stated my case (on nothing, of course) and I'm pretty sure I alienated some people with that line.

>> No.4151011

>>4150991

If you alienated them with it, it sounds like they were probably faggots who thought nihilism was cool because they saw a picture of camus smoking a cigarette once. They are faggots who can't handle reality.

>> No.4152670

bump for curiosity's sake

>> No.4152690

>>4151011
Yay.

>> No.4152722

I've already lived my entire life according to it, I just never had the words to properly explain it or elaborate on it until reading the book.

>> No.4152725

>>4150979
Can someone explain what stirner means with it exactly?

>> No.4152911

How do you explain a qt that you love her if you are both aware of egoism?

>> No.4153257

What should I read first by this dude? A good place to start is what I'm looking for

>> No.4153399

>>4153257
The ego and his own

>> No.4154753

>>4153399

that's about all there is I think

>> No.4156034

I read spooks very much as an equivalent of the super-ego, and I'm not sure in how far one can simply get rid of that, although Stirner's ideas are very parallel to those of other clever people on that issue.

>> No.4156097

>>4154753
His reply to his critics is of utmost importance.

http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-stirner-s-critics

It conclusively defeats many points that are made against Stirner to this day, because people don't bother to read it.

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>>4152725

>> No.4156649

fact: stirner made nietzsche shit himself in awe.

seriously. it's a little vague but it's basically been proven that nietzsche read stirner's book and refused to even comment on it. just so no one else was exposed to it. he considered it dangerous.

stirner confirmed for making the mighty nietzsche tremble in his mustache

>> No.4156651

>>4156034
I agree.

is hard but getting ride of the spooks is possible. Stirner is a good start point.

>> No.4156652

>>4156649
gonna need some sort of source on this

>> No.4156654

Can someone accurately explain to me what Stirner means by 'spooks'?

>> No.4156655

>>4156652
i did read various speculations on it somewhere, i didn't make this up. i don't have any saved links though so search around. >>4156654
i think it means like the old traditionalist ideas that hang around like ghosts

i think stirner's book caused such a strong but little impact cus of its style. it is pretty short and straightforward with some humor. it's not a huge philosophical treatise or grandiose nietzschean thing

>> No.4156665

>>4156652
Franz Overbeck's wife Ida reported that during the period from 1880 to 1883 Nietzsche lived with the couple at several points, and that he mentioned Stirner directly.[16] She describes a discussion she had with Nietzsche in which he mentioned Klinger and Stirner as follows:
"Ach," he said, "I was very disappointed in Klinger. He was a philistine, I feel no affinity with him; but Stirner, yes, with him!" And a solemn expression passed over his face. While I was watching his features intently, his expression changed again, and he made something like a gesture of dismissal or defense: "Now I've told you, and I did not want to mention it at all. Forget it. They will be talking about plagiarism, but you will not do that, I know."[17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_Friedrich_Nietzsche_and_Max_Stirner

>> No.4156672

>>4156654
Just read him or read the wiki's and stanford.

>> No.4156692

>>4156649
>so no one else was exposed to it. he considered it dangerous.

Doubtful, Nietzsche considered his philosophy to be extremely dangerous and said numerous times he would be associated with some of the gravest atrocities in the future. Nietzsche probably just didn't want to be in Stirner's shadow.

He was pretty edgy.

>> No.4156698

Stirnerism always seems like a scared and lonely ideology to me. An ideology based on the satisfaction of the individual's desires without regard for your rational and sentient fellow man will only lead to a distrustful society based on the mutual fear of neighbours. I cannot hold it as an ideal.

It holds no guard against the unlimited power of the weak over the strong, nothing to oppose the imposition of outrages by the powerful against the rest.

>> No.4156702

>>4156698
Have you actually read him? Stirner is much more nuanced than most people on /lit seem to think.

>> No.4156703

>>4156698
b8

>> No.4156713

"Whoever knows how to take, to defend, the thing, to him belongs property." is also "Everything I have is my neighbour's as soon as he manages to prise it off me". The strength of Stirner is his ability to tap into our belief that we are the main character in life's story.