/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.4147285]

>mfw I can't find a single job

I majored in literature and holy fuck am I having regrets now. My life is looking grim, and I can't find a single job that is tailored to my skills. I'm in debt and I need to start paying them back, it looks like I actually will have to become a waiter, bartender or some freakin hamburger flipper. I can no longer afford books either, so it actually seems that my degree ended up backstabbing me because you need fucking money to buy books. I'm getting more and more depressed every day. Should I accept utter defeat and move back home with my parents? Anyone else who's had the same experience, how did you guys solve it?

[Anonymous No.4147310]

>>4147285
>I majored in literature

You goofed. Did you really think that was a good idea?

At least you can passive aggressively make fun of successful STEM majors on 4chan for being less well-read than you!

[Anonymous No.4147313]

>>4147285
>I can't find a single job that is tailored to my skills.

So you're in the same position as most graduates.

[Anonymous No.4147317]

>>4147285
A must.

[Anonymous No.4147325]

>>4147285
>Not going to graduate school

Do you even humanities?

[Anonymous No.4147329]

>>4147285
Embrace destiny and get your teaching qualifications already.

[Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc No.4147330]

Should have majored in philosophy.

Also fuck jobs. Become a NEET/eternal vagrant.

It's not all your fault because if you majored in literature in Europe you would not be in debt and you would actually find a job.

[Anonymous No.4147335]

>>4147325
>>4147329

This is the exact process a couple of my friends are going through. There's something kind of heartbreaking about it.

[Anonymouse !7tLDpBrPEk No.4147339]

>>4147285

Get more creative with the job hunt.
If you have solid writing skills you can get a job copywriting. In the meantime,

http://www.freelancewriting.com/newsletters/morning-coffee-freelance-writing-jobs.php

Wait t'ill next tuesday and find something promising to pay the bills. It'll be 20,000 words a week and close to 50 hours, but it will get you by until you find real work. Bear in mind that you will likely have to move to a backwater Texas boomtown, but it'll be mid five-figures with opportunity for advancement.

The other option is to go back to school for a PhD, but don't be a dumbass faggot and go somewhere that isn't fully-funded

[Anonymous No.4147341]

Emmigrate to Europe and teach English as a foreign language

> have job
> have money for books
> have be in europe

they are crying out for English teachers, work permit is the only complicated part, but it is complicated, not difficult

[Anonymous No.4147342]

>>4147330
Are you the same guy who advocated going to central Europe where you could live the true bohemian (in both senses), literary lifestyle?

[Anonymouse !7tLDpBrPEk No.4147348]

>>4147341

> teaching snotgobblers

[Anonymous No.4147375]

Why the fuck did you even think that was a good idea, OP?

>>4147341
This is likely your best bet, if you have the resources. Your major may even be an asset.

[Anonymous No.4147390]

>thinking a foreign person that majored in us lit ever would get a job in europe

pphahahahahahhaah.....

[Anonymous No.4147399]

>>4147390

I work in English teaching and I have a coworker who is from the US and majored in psychology, and another coworker from Ireland who majored in English Literature

[Anonymous No.4147404]

>>4147285
That girl is so hot. I would pay actual money to have sex with her.

[Anonymous No.4147407]

Get a job in fucking marketing you dibshit

[Anonymous No.4147422]

>>4147375
I didn't even think of the fact it costs 1000 dollars to get to europe and another 1000 to do a real (170 hours NOT ONLINE tefl) course, if you want to skip the course you could try to get a job in a school that teaches callan method, since they offer their own training

anyway honestly if you can just get though the paperwork which is a nightmare you'll have no problems getting a job, the average wage is about 16 dollars an hour in Spain, 5 dollars an hour in the Czech Republic and 20 dollars an hour in Germany, so obviously the easiest place to get a job without experience is the Czech Republic or somewhere in a similar situation.

You get free healthcare with that, as long as you are working legally, and any medication or anything like that you need will be free or dirt cheap, so you'll be able to start making a dent in your debt hopefully.

[Anonymous No.4147423]

>>4147404
She's like a 6/10

[Anonymous No.4147427]

>>4147330
>It's not all your fault because if you majored in literature in Europe you would not be in debt and you would actually find a job.
>you would not be in debt
Right.
>you would actually find a job
topkek
Have you ever looked at the youth unemployment rate in Europe? Even with a worthy degree it's far from easy to find something else than an unpaid trainership.

[Anonymous No.4147429]

>>4147404
she doesn't even exist, her entire chin is a smidge on photoshop

[Anonymous No.4147431]

Go abroad and teach english in a private high school in some interesting part of the world

get into the IB shit as well

[Anonymous No.4147468]

>>4147423
You must be one of those 2/10 would not bang guys huh?
>>4147429
>she doesn't even exist
>implying that would stop me

[Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc No.4147482]

>>4147427
Europe in certain places like Scandinavia or the UK is still paradise financially compared to the U.S.

[Anonymous No.4147493]

>>4147330

To be honest, I think there's something in this. I do get the feeling many companies actively aren't interested in taking on certain liberal subjects because they think/know they'll come with liberal ideals that will go against the type of environment they want. People are told their skills are useless but I don't believe this. It seems more to be about a personality clash rather than 'skills'.

If I'm right, it makes for depressing thought.

[Anonymous No.4147499]

Why, as a society, can't we realize that not everyone in the current setup we have needs to have a paying job?

Having so many people working, it doesn't do that much more to help sustain the society. At best it just helps to sustain capitalism.

[Anonymous No.4147502]

>>4147468
>You must be one of those 2/10 would not bang guys huh?
>lol you're just like the guy in the meme

No. Some people just have standards.

[Anonymous No.4147508]

>>4147482
>UK is paradise

it's a fucking shithole m8

[Anonymous No.4147517]

>>4147285
>thinking the arts degree=hamburger flipper thing was just a joke
Sorry, OP.

>I can't find a single job that is tailored to my skills
No shit, literature-related skills aren't really required for... any job at all, to be honest. Best you can do is claim incredibly vague things like being self-motivated, able to write well, team-work, all of that bullshit.

Also, use your university's career centre and apply for EVERYTHING.

[Anonymous No.4147523]

Question: how can you not get the hint that this is how things are going to be for you while you're still in school? I'm a STEM major and we're bombarded with job related conferences, recruitments, etc. all the time.

Did nobody talk to you at college?

[Anonymous No.4147528]

>>4147285

Apply to private schools. It's what I did, now I have a job and get 6,000 bucks a month for it.

[Anonymous No.4147534]

>>4147427
> Having debt in Europe
You must be one of those British fellows across the channel

> Not finding a job with a worthy degree
Let me correct that;
> Not finding a job which is about your studied subject and not some kind of mediocre mid-level manager function of a completely-unrelated-to-your-study company
That's really the biggest problem for college graduates

[Anonymous No.4147544]

>>4147285
Yeah, but what were you expecting?
Afaik, the job niche for lit-graduates contains either independent writing, something in publishing or working in a bookstore/library.

And you don't even need a degree for the latter.

[Anonymous No.4147552]

>>4147341
>they are crying out for English teachers
No. You can't even teach here (Germany) without a (German) degree in teaching.
You might get a job teaching bored 20-somethings basic business-English in some private school.

You could try your luck in Eastern Europe, but then again: Eastern Europe.
>you better learn how to squat, bitchtit

[Anonymous No.4147563]

http://qz.com/85017/college-in-sweden-is-free-but-students-still-have-a-ton-of-debt-how-can-that-be/ starting to get tired of all your shit here.

[Anonymous No.4147576]

>>4147285

Why would you major in literature if you did not want to become a writer or something? You're supposed to major in useful shit not something you like.

[Anonymous No.4147577]

>>4147317
I'm just going to have to kill myself.

[Anonymous No.4147582]

>>4147502
Pic related: you

[Anonymous No.4147583]

>>4147341

Private Latin American schools also pay loads to English teachers. Hell, they sometimes hire any fag whose mother tongue is English to teach it, regardless of majors.
Also, you'll be the king of the country and fuck tons of girls

[Anonymous No.4147586]

>>4147508
I caa vouch for this. I lived in an area which I thought was shit, and then I moved to another part of the UK, and it turned out my area was just average. This country is a piece of shit, stay the fuck away!

[Anonymous No.4147591]

>>4147502
I know your type

Pic related: you

[Anonymous No.4147596]

>>4147552
That's not true, I know 4 people teaching English in Germany and they haven't got any degree in teaching.

Don't just make shit up when you haven't got a fucking clue.

They work in private academies, not state schools.

[Anonymous No.4147599]

>>4147596
That's what I said
>You might get a job teaching bored 20-somethings basic business-English in some private school.

[Anonymous No.4147602]

>>4147583
any of the ones i've seen pay sweet fuck all, but you get to be in latin america which is awesome

[Anonymous No.4147607]

>>4147602
If you don't mind the 3rd world conditions of some of these shitholes it's cool.

[Anonymous No.4147608]

>>4147599
well what's wrong with that? beats being a waitress

a bit of a waste if you had a good brain and studied microbiology but if you studied lit it is the best you can hope for

[Anonymous No.4147611]

>>4147602

you have to consider that the cost of living is much lower, though.
I work in an international school in Chile and American teachers get sweet bucks, at least for the cost of Chile

[Anonymous No.4147621]

>>4147608
> beats being a waitress
Well I don't know about that. Depends on your preferences.
Usually everyone who gets into secondary education already has a decent understanding of English, so teaching these people will rather be endless repetitions of the differences between "their" and there", or the correct pronunciation of "th", than a semi-intellectual discussion of Shakespeare's sonnets.

[Anonymous No.4147627]

>>4147502

Haha

[Anonymous No.4147629]

>>4147621

My dream job, correcting people and their shitty English all day every day.

[Anonymous No.4147635]

You can't possible be surprised, OP. What the fuck did you think you'd do with your degree? Just read books and have people pay you for it? The only literature-specific job I can think of is teaching English or Lit courses.

As another anon suggested, use the career center at your college. Look for jobs, and apply to all of them.

Also, just work. Just fucking work. You need money to survive, so just work. Flip burgers, move boxes around a warehouse somewhere, serve coffee. Whatever, just get a job and make money.

Also, consider enlisting in whatever branch of the military you feel like. Creative writing major master race, reporting in.... As far as the Army's concerned, people w/ college degrees start off a rank higher (slight pay raise). Also, them benefits.

Flipping burgers might be better for you, if you actually aren't interested in a military career and are unwilling to embrace a sucky, sucky life just for the pay and benefits.

[Anonymous No.4147637]

>>4147586

I said this over at /int/ recently in one of the British threads. I think they were prepared to crucify me.

[Anonymous No.4147648]

>>4147635

This is wise, joining the military makes you unless your country is at war or something, in which case I'd rather flip burgers. It will give you a healthy fit body and loads of cash to spend when you have free time, since you're not spending any while you're on duty.

[Anonymous No.4147659]

>Study physics
>Everyone thinks I'll get a job easily in a related field
>End up working in an academic copyright library

I don't understand, /lit/. It's better than working in a shop or cleaning dishes, though.

[Anonymous No.4147660]

I'm a physics major and I know that feeling. I don't feel cut out for grad school or research life so all I'm left with is a useless B Sc.

[Anonymous No.4147663]

>>4147660
Yeah, they tell you there are jobs available, and there are. What they don't tell you is that you need high level autism to enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.4147665]

>>4147659
I'm currently in my 3rd semester in physics. Can you do anything in research without a Phd?

[Anonymous No.4147667]

>>4147659
>>4147660

I used to be a Physics major and before that I was an English major. I dodged both of those bullets and now I'm a Comp Sci major. 60-80k starting will feel pretty good.

[Anonymous No.4147668]

>>4147648
>>4147635

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/16/us/baffling-rise-in-suicides-plagues-us-military.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Yes, because ptsd and suicide are nice benefits of having to go to war and shoot and kill people.

[Anonymous No.4147670]

>>4147665
No.

>>4147667
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/try-turning-it-off-and-on-again-computer-science-graduates-face-highest-unemployment-rates/2006713.article

Top lel

[Anonymous No.4147674]

>>4147665

I am not gonna pretend to know much about this, but I am fairly sure research requires you to have a PhD. The way I see it, anything less than a PhD is just training for the PhD.

[Anonymous No.4147676]

You need an engineering degree. They get all the jobs.

[Anonymous No.4147680]

>>4147670
>UK

There's the problem right there.

[Anonymous No.4147682]

>>4147668

That's why I said if your country is at war, it's better not to join, since you will be sent out to fight it and can get killed. But it does give you a lot of benefits where I live.

[Anonymous No.4147714]

>>4147670

>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/try-turning-it-off-and-on-again-computer-science-graduates-face-highest-unemployment-rates/2006713.article

I lived with a guy who studied Comp Science. He was a nice, normal guy. He essentially told me that he was pretty sure everybody in his class had autism.

I'm fairly sure this might be a reason why so many comp sci. grads might be unemployed. Given the UK working culture, I can't see how they'd fit in with a lot of companies who need an IT-expert.

Even I worked a brief stint in IT and I have a philosophy degree. Why would they have given the job to me instead of a comp. sci grad? I can only imagine the kinds of more qualified people who applied.

[Anonymous No.4147724]

>>4147714
It's bad enough that CompSci has become a "programming and general tech support" degree.

CompSci should be the mathematics of the computing world, not java 101.

[Anonymous No.4147728]

>>4147627
lol
>did you photoshop your eyes?
>no

[Anonymous No.4147729]

>>4147724
It is. In upper levels, particularly in Masters and PhD level. And you can choose your stream (software/engineering vs math) in any good university.

[Anonymous No.4147745]

>>4147724

I don't have compsci in my country, but from what I understand it is basically math and java and maybe some web design/programming? Is there really nothing else to it?

[Anonymous No.4147749]

>>4147621

you´re taking about shit you don´t know again. Most people outside of the internet can´t string a basic sentence together. Only natives don´t understand the difference between there and their. Learners don´t understand the difference between "this" and "that" and "have done" and "did" and "i could have gone" and "I was able to go"

[Anonymous No.4147751]

>>4147724

It's more like Office Politics 101.

[Anonymous No.4147762]

>>4147751
God I hate that. But it's true with most jobs, even if it's just being a waiter or burger overlord. Put any group of people in the same place together and they'll all start to stink up the place with rumors, alliances, and snickering conspiracies

[Anonymous No.4147783]

>>4147762

Why can't people just work? I hate that reality, I just want to work and get paid, not act like a child.

[Anonymous No.4147789]

>>4147762
>>4147783
Office managers are essentially baby-sitters for adults.

[Anonymous No.4147793]

Working is for plebby slaves of the bourgeois. Literary life master race.

[Anonymous No.4147798]

>>4147762

The weirdest thing is how all of the heads demand complete control but if they lose it, they get really mad and blame everybody else. They are egotistical but incredibly insecure at the same time.

So not /lit/ but I wonder if there are any books which describe office-environments well.

[Anonymous No.4147817]

>>4147341
This, but go to Korea. They pay by far the best (bar some of the oil sheikhdoms, but the competition for those jobs is murderous).

[Anonymous No.4147849]

>>4147285
Oh no, actual labor. Maybe if you went ahead and got whatever minimum wage job or any manual labor job, instead of just waiting for a job tailored to you..life wouldn't seem so bad.

Instead of moving back home, get a roommate, or two, or three.

[Anonymous No.4147855]

>>4147285
>can't afford
never understood this in theese times of libraries and flea markets

[Anonymous No.4147853]

>>4147714

I lived with a Comp Sci major who had autism and all his friends - about six smelly guys who would end up in our kitchen and study either in silence of repeating memes - had it too.

It's a shame the job market these days is only for people who don't mind being drones or have too many learning difficulties to realise that's what they are. It's easy to berate OP but the bigger problem is living in a society that only prioritises a narrow range of skills.

[Anonymous No.4147866]

>>4147285
Form an insurrectionist cell and start a campaign of bombings and kidnappings. Have a few counter-revolutionary swine (like >>4147849) nailed to desks by their ears. Get betrayed. Go on the run. Get cornered in a building in a university which is stealing the money and dreams of thousands of more young people. The building catches fire, and you are gunned down on national television. Be watched by millions on youtube. Get worn on t-shirts by edgy 20-somethings everywhere.

[Anonymous No.4147874]

>>4147285
>I'm in debt and I need to start paying them back
>having debts from college

Thanks God I don't live in such an awful place.

[Anonymous No.4147878]

>>4147404
>tfw today was the closest I've come to calling up an escort

Alas. I'm afraid of my decadence.

[Anonymous No.4147888]

>>4147793
This.

I met a traveling homeless guy the other day who's been all over the US.

If you have a job you're tied down in one place. Sounds pretty bad to me.

[Anonymous No.4147912]

>>4147866
This is a solid plan. I second it.

[Anonymous No.4147914]

>>4147285
>you need fucking money to buy books
>what is the internet?

[Anonymous No.4147916]

>>4147888
or be smart enough to, you know, find or make a job that lets you travel across the US

[Anonymous No.4147948]

>>4147916
being homeless is a full time job, my boy

[Anonymous No.4147954]

>>4147668
Suicide rates are lower for soldiers than for the general public. Also the majority of military jobs are non combat roles (so no ptsd).

[Anonymous No.4147957]

>>4147916

Do they even exist anymore? My boss spends half the day on Skype.

[Anonymous No.4147974]

>>4147341
This involves learning another language or some shit. Just swallow your pride and be a waiter while you write your magnum opus OP.

[Anonymous No.4147996]

>>4147285
>tfw university in my country is free
im going to spend the next ten years of my life learning about everything i can

[Anonymous No.4147997]

>>4147974
>be a waiter while you write your magnum opus OP.
this doesn't happen ever though. all writers nowadays are just writing teachers. before that... I don't know.

[Anthony No.4148008]

>>4147668
Liberal media

[Anonymous No.4148021]

>>4147285
>I actually will have to become a waiter, bartender or some freakin hamburger flipper
You've gotta start somewhere
Currently studying English Literature and Philosophy, but I took a lifeguarding course when I was 17, and since so few people take the course plenty of swimming pools are desperate for them. The pay isn't bad, and the hours are fantastic, so you're financially stable while you look for a more prestigious job.

[Anonymous No.4148030]

> not just coasting hard NEET style until the recession is over and all the baby boomers are retired so you can come in and scoop up ALL THE JOBS

don't be afraid, my child

[Anonymous No.4148037]

I'm a 22 year old neet and now I wish I had spend my time getting a worthless degree because at least I spent my time doing something. if I were to go to school now I'd graduate at 27.

[Anonymous No.4148052]

>>4148037
So what do you propose to have at 27 instead of that degree?

[Anonymous No.4148082]

Teach at a private prep school, you dont need a teaching degree

[Anonymous No.4148114]

>Studied English literature
>Got a great job at the BBC as soon as I graduated

Pretty bloody great degree, if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.4148151]

Have you considered teaching ESL? The pay is decent, the benefits are great, and they'll give you a job even if you have a degree in underwater basket weaving. You'll get to travel and you'll have spending money.

[Anonymous No.4148160]

>>4148114
what is the job doing
how much does it pay?

[MrThrills !aAnvD.FqpM No.4148244]

OP, I currently have a full-time job as a technical writer for a county-wide non-profit. I go the job through networking.

I was hired by the organization as a bus-aide (also decent pay), and got in touch with middle-management in the main offices. I flaunted my credentials to them, and they had me doing an internship once a week. After a couple of months, they offered me the full-time position.

It's all about nepotism. You've just gotta find a way to make some connections.

If all else fails, work a shitty job for a bit and save up $$$ to go to trade school. (I'm serious. Blue collar jobs are in demand everywhere, at least in America).

[Anonymous No.4148283]

>economics b.a.
>work in a museum gift shop
>hang out and get drunk with people from the box office across the way, the dudes who install the artwork, and this bald dude from the folk museum across the street
>supervisor is a regular blue collar dad type who likes to talk about sports
>sit with rich old lady volunteers out front on slow days, sometimes receive small gifts from them

life could be better, i suppose. i don't really want to live at home with my parents anymore. but goddamn my social life has never been better and most days at work are really chill. there's work out there that isn't just waiter and bartender type of shit. i mean, the pay isn't great but at least i'm having fun.

[Anonymous No.4148324]

>>4147285
>Majoring in literature
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
In all seriousness, why would you think that's a good idea? What could have possibly gone through your head to make you think that majoring in fucking LITERATURE would be an intelligent thing to do? Even Women's Studies has more fucking merit in this day and age, spreading the propaganda and all that. You're fucked OP. Maybe you could go into journalism or something. I hear gaming journalists don't even need a journalism degree, all they need is a lack of integrity. Try that.

[Anonymous No.4148357]

I'm majoring in Linguistics and Religion.
Am I FUCKED??

[Anonymous No.4148377]

Accept defeat, become waiter, channel despair and destitution to write 21st century's most important work on capitalism's tendency to crush dreams and stifle individual expression.

[Anonymous No.4148380]

>>4148377
too standard

[Anonymous No.4148388]

I'm just going to travel the world, work on the seas saving the whales and endangered fish, meeting hippy women.

[Anonymous No.4148393]

>>4148380
Not if you make a fuck load of money from your book.

[Anonymous No.4148394]

So do people go to school to learn or what?

[Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc No.4148398]

>>4147586
>>4147508

You guys can be NEETs in the UK. Stop complaining.

[Anonymous No.4148399]

>>4148394
I do...

[Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc No.4148404]

>>4147948
LIKE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK

THEN THAT BECOMES YOUR JOB

[Anonymous No.4148425]

>>4147285
Whenever I find a word I don't know I look it up on the dictionary app on my phone, then copy and paste the definition into evernote, which is a pretty useful note taking app. When I get home I go on the computer and make flashcards out of the definitions for use in ankidroid, which is a flashcard program. I try to learn three new words everyday, assuming I have enough new flashcards to do so.

I now know what words like recondite, perspicuous, and abdicate mean. Oddly I don't find myself actually using these words all that much, but at least I know them when I see them.

[Anonymous No.4148426]

I want to study/make films,

Will I be as fucked as OP?

[Anonymous No.4148432]

>>4148426
Why aren't we allowed to do what we want to do?
Why is reality so cruel?
:(

[Anonymous No.4148436]

Wow you sound like a fucking bitch. So wait tables and get books from the library. This shit isn't that difficult. If you go to college to pursue artistic interests be prepared to make sacrifices.

What a bunch of yellow bellied faggots. How the fuck have you people even made it this far?

[Anonymous No.4148453]

>>4148432
I blame capitalism.

[Anonymous No.4148459]

>>4148453
To a large extent this is correct, I think. Talent and skills are only generally rewarded or valuable if they can produce things in demand. It's a shitty way to organize society.

[Anonymous No.4148458]

>not getting a degree in a STEM subjective that has practical working opportunities and perfecting your literature, music or other creative endeavours as a hobby on the side until you (hopefully) become good enough and generate enough money to sustain a living on those

[Anonymous No.4148473]

>>4148458
But you're spending most of your existence on something you don't necessarily value personally. If you're a STEM major just so you have secure job prospects first and foremost, you're forcing yourself to find fulfilment in the few waking moments outside of your job.

[Anonymous No.4148474]

I want to feel for you, OP, I really do, because I majored in English in college and have had a lot of issues finding a job I want post college. Except that I knew it was going to be like this and made the decision to study lit anyways. Part of it is your choice of major, part of it is the post-recession economy, and part of it is just the nature of a college education. A college education is not a license to get a job in what you studied. STEM majors will tell you different, and that's partially true for those disciplines, but in reality, the recession changed the game for everyone. You need experience to get a job that is based on your major. You need connections to get a job based on your major. You've gotta work hard, kiss ass and set yourself apart. Welcome to the new world: you can either wallow in self-pity, and blame the institution, blame society, or blame everyone else for not preparing you for the real world, or you can roll up your sleeves, grit your teeth, and get to work trying to achieve the life you want.

[Anonymous No.4148476]

>>4148458
>creative endeavours as a hobby
filthy casual

[Anonymous No.4148484]

>>4148459
Only valued insofar as they provide return on capital, rather.

[Anonymous No.4148563]

>>4148474

I live in a third world country and life was always like this around here. I can't believe how entitled you rich people are.

[Anonymous No.4148570]

>>4148474
>You need connections to get a job based on your major. You've gotta work hard, kiss ass and set yourself apart. Welcome to the new world: you can either wallow in self-pity, and blame the institution, blame society, or blame everyone else for not preparing you for the real world, or you can roll up your sleeves, grit your teeth, and get to work trying to achieve the life you want.

Last I checked it was always like that and I live in a first world country

[Anonymous No.4148588]

Do you have any work experience or skills? I graduated with a history/anthropology double major and have found work as a reporter, national park ranger, and Philmont guide. If you have prior experience in any field it'll be much easier to get a job, especially if you were friendly with your boss.

[Anonymous No.4148596]

>>4147285
Put your skills towards revolution

[Anonymous No.4148626]

>>4147793
I have a job and every day on my way to work I pass a bum who does nothing but lay by the river reading. Words can't describe my jealousy.

[Anonymous No.4148647]

So, for anyone here who is considering being an English teacher in another place, I made a post here >>4148624 with some info

[Anonymous No.4148651]

shit i think i got too late

[Anonymous No.4148654]

>2013
>Attending a university
>Racking up 5 and 6 figures in student loan debt to then join the unemployment lines
>Contributing to the next financial meltdown

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-03/so-you-want-short-student-loan-bubble-now-you-can

You kids truly are the scum of the civilized world.

[Anonymous No.4148690]

>>4148654

Tell me of a way to become an English teacher without going to university.

[Anonymous No.4148707]

>>4148690

How about not becoming an English teacher instead, you fucking clown?

[Anonymous No.4148709]

>>4148690
why do you want to become an english teacher?
kids are awful
they don't care about your shit and don't want to learn

[Anonymous No.4148710]

>>4148707

But I want to.

[Anonymous No.4148715]

>>4148710

And I want to fuck Emma Watson, but I gave up on that dream a long time ago.

Some things in life are just not reasonable or intelligent to pursue.

[Anonymous No.4148717]

>>4148715

So we just shouldn't have teachers at all in society?

[Anonymous No.4148728]

>>4148717

Look man, I'm just telling you it's a bad bargain, especially if you're a guy.

Public schools are run by women for girls. Do you really want to be a part of that atmosphere? Assuming you can even get hired, it's not going to be a fun career. You'll either be teaching brats the ABCs or babysitting apathetic teenagers, all the while earning barely enough money to keep you above the poverty line. And that's IF you get hired.

If you don't get a job, you're looking at 30K in student debts minimum, interest accruing every month, and having to take a bullshit job just to keep the lights on.

Somebody has to do it, but that doesn't mean it has to be you. You get one turn in life, that's it. Don't waste time on unpromising prospects. Let stupider people (namely women) take care of those responsibilities.

[Anonymous No.4148732]

>>4148728

>Public schools are run by women for girls.

This is really vague. What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.4148733]

>>4148728
women scare me too anon. you can look into their eyes but you will never be able to tell what they're thinking... or plotting

[Anonymous No.4148737]

>>4148732
That public schools are run by women. That women, who politicize themselves, regard the boys and the girls in different ways, which differences are informed by the differences described in their politics.

[Anonymous No.4148738]

>>4147668
Don't join the Army then.

Coast Guard and Air Force are your best bets, if you can't get into those then try the Navy.

[Anonymous No.4148743]

>>4148732

Teaching is a female dominated profession; as such, the most popular teaching methods favour feminine approaches to educating, and the basic model for a student in public schooling is a little girl. Boys are tolerated while girls are catered to. The basic classroom setup reinforces this dichotomy.

Watch this if you're interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOTj9NDv80

[Anonymous No.4148742]

i had 80 grand in inheritance money and blew it on travel, a car and drugs

now i'm $200 in debt

kill me

[Anonymous No.4148745]

>>4147330

>implying this isn't what a god lawyer does

do you even read case judgements? its all about interpretation and meaning. the modern stance (in australia anyway) is that meaning is subjective and depends on the construction of the laws being looked at. historical discussions are nearly always a part of judgements.

[Anonymous No.4148754]

>>4148742
>200 in debt
That's fucking nothing son.

[Anonymous No.4148758]

>>4147342
No, I advocate going to Sweden/Finland for free universities and setting so dull that you have nothing better to do than be diligent.

[Anonymous No.4148773]

If I had to go deep into debt to go to college, I sure as shit would not have gotten a humanities degree. Why do people do this to themselves?

[Anonymous No.4148800]

>>4148773
To learn something they like?

[Anonymous No.4148851]

>>4148754
>>4148742
Plebs

[Anonymous No.4148861]

Disability discharge is pretty much a fine deal.

Just have to stay disabled for 60 months

[Anonymous No.4148862]

>>4147285
I know that feelings all too well my friend.
Go to grad school, not for the teachings, but for connections. Start teaching small courses, investigate, write, work in cultural affairs. Manage. ???. Profit.

[Anonymous No.4148874]

Swede here, I can't believe the shit I hear when some of my fellow countrymen actually tries to tell other people that university is free.

[Anonymous No.4148892]

>>4147285
Why do you waste money on education? I hardly went to school and run a profitable construction company.

[Anonymous No.4148894]

>>4148874
How expensive is a humanities degree at a decent university in Sweden compared to other countries?

[Anonymous No.4148895]

>>4148892
>a profitable construction company.
That's not what many people here consider fulfilling and enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.4148903]

>>4148895
Do what you feel is fulfilling and enjoyable and see how many job offers you get.

[Anonymous No.4148905]

>>4148851

ok i feel better now

[Anonymous No.4148918]

>>4148903
If the reality is indeed that black and white, one or the other, I'd rather have a low paying job that allows me to do what I enjoy. The idea of being stuck in something that would only make me miserable and regretful is scary for me.

[Anonymous No.4148925]

>>4148851

lol hold up let me find mine

[Anonymous No.4148933]

>>4148851

here it is. wait for repayment. goml.

[Anonymous No.4148940]

>>4147798
Post office has a few wise cracks at it

[Anonymous No.4148949]

You've got a few options;

Teaching (More education debt or travel debt)
Journalism (Doesn't need more debt but you will likely need to be an intern first for nopay, or write freelance online for littlepay)
Copywriting (no more training needed but will likely be an intern first)
Unrelated (flipping burgers being a postman military whatever)
Unemployed (autismbux)

If you're on /lit/ your life likely revolves around books and your dream is to be a published author, so any of these will do. You do not have to love your job. You go to work and turn your brain off and make enough money to live and buy books and thats it.

All of the options above are hard, because there are way more people out there than jobs in all of them, and every other field. The market is fucked and you've got to lie cheat and steal just to keep your head above water. Fudge the resume, get some mates to stand in as your references pretending to be middle management for some related corporation you worked at.

So now you've got some money to live even if its not much and its doing something you hate you can do what you want with your evenings and weekends. Read and Write, fucker. Love it, go out and do us proud.

[Anonymous No.4148952]

>>4147285
>can no longer afford books
Library, son. What the fuck did they teach you?

[Anonymous No.4148955]

>>4148895
>That's not what many people here consider fulfilling and enjoyable.
Listen here, broseph: you can't get a job in playing video games and jacking off, so just suck it up and get a job that isn't enjoyable, ok?

Fucking kids these days.

[Anonymous No.4149016]

>>4148918
Spoken like a true loser.

[Anonymous No.4149024]

>>4148894
3-5 years of study 40 000 skr every year.

[Anonymous No.4149035]

>>4148955
>and get a job that isn't enjoyable
Assuming you're lucky enough to have to opportunity, why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.4149043]

>>4149016
That was insightful.

[Anonymous No.4149051]

>>4148955
He could kill himself instead, bro.

[Anonymous No.4149061]

>>4148918
Why do you assume I am miserable in my job? I worked my ass off to get that job. My kids grow up in a home I could only dream of when I was their age. Regretful? Not one second.

[Anonymous No.4149081]

>>4149061
>Why do you assume I am miserable in my job?
I never did. I said I wouldn't want to be in a job that made me miserable, that's all, even if it payed well.

[Anonymous No.4149098]

>tfw on Disability Support Pension for aspergers and never have to work a day in my life

I seriously feel bad for you plebes who actually study/work

[Anonymous No.4149109]

>>4149098

I feel bad for you, even more so because that attitude shows how deep you've sunk.

[Anonymous No.4149111]

I'm in Scotland. It might be a bit shite, but we do have a good educational system. I'm working on a MSc in a university founded in 1451, and have just completed a BSc in the Times' uni of 2012.

Tuition fees don't exist in Scotland, and we get paid about 300gpb/sem (for travel etc) to attend amongst the best ancient unis in the world.

[Anonymous No.4149137]

>>4147285
MFW when I got an interview, but cannot accept a job, as it's full time for 6 months and I have to pass this year on college or else I'll get thrown out cuz I already failed a couple of times. :/

[Anonymous No.4149146]

>mfw people still don't go for tax law

[Anonymous No.4149154]

>>4148894
Uh, he's making shit up. We get paid for attending univeristy, partly as a grant and partly as a loan.

There IS a tuition fee for non-EU foreigners, however.

[Anonymous No.4149166]

>>4148949
fucking THIS

/thread

[Anonymous No.4149248]

I majored in Eng LIt. I live in Bangkok Thailand. Don't take a shitty job teaching ESL. No money, no future, and boring. Teach International Baccalaureate (IB) Literature. You might have to pay for some of the training courses at first but once you get a job, you can travel all over the world teaching really smart high school over achievers. I make 4K US a month and pay 25% taxes. I teach at what is called a "second tier"s school meaning there are schools that pay more (a few) and schools that pay less. Google search associates.

[Anonymous No.4149269]

Is it really that bad over in the US?

[Anonymous No.4149288]

>>4147285

>majored in literature

Can't you.. you know, write? It seems like a major in literature would give you some degree of writing ability, given that you spent years of your life studying the critique and method of literature.

[Anonymous No.4149323]

>>4149269
In Brazil is about the same, the difference is that if you get in a public university (they are better than the private ones, in most cases) you don't need to pay shit but if you don't get a STEM or Law degree you are pretty much fucked.
Unless you do what I'm going to do, study like a motherfucker and apply to a govermnent job. But it is hard as fuck since everyone is going after it, they mostly pays well and you can't get fired.

[Anonymous No.4149332]

>>4149288

Copy-writing is an option but you need marketing forte. In fact, many of the jobs I check out directly express 'marketing or journalism' as a degree course.

With a bit of thought, a literature major could write copy but it's a different territory. Personally, I'm usually pretty apprehensive about applying for these positions.

[Anonymous No.4149359]

I solved the problem by keeping reading books a hobby and nothing job related.
Accounting, that is an easy job

[Anonymous No.4149398]

>>4149288
analysis and synthesis are separate skills

they're definitely linked and one side gives insight into the other, but to get good at writing you need to write.

[Anonymous No.4149420]

>>4149398

I know, but I would expect a lit major to have some experience with both areas. I mean, surely you do some sort of writing as a lit major? Critiques, emulations, comparisons? Anything that might have developed some ability to write, combined with a learned background regarding the structure and history of narrative? Definitely some nonfiction, if not some creative writing of your own.

I just don't know how you could be a lit major - one who has graduated, at that - and walk away without thinking "I'm going to write a book." What else do you expect to do, really? It just seems natural that, having spent the past few years centering your studies on writing, that you would want to do some writing yourself.

[Anonymous No.4149596]

>>4148933
You seem to have forgotten something

>>4148905
That's what we're here for.

[Anonymous No.4151036]

How do you write a good review for a book? I always hate seeing a one word review, but I'm also not sure how to exactly do it without giving too many spoilers. Tips?

[Anonymous No.4151076]

>>4149359
I'm a CPA. Shit is soul-sucking when the business is in season. So. Many. Hours.

[Anonymous No.4151110]

It's the 21st century. You have the Internet, a smartphone, and a Square Reader to take other people's money from them. This 'job' you seek isn't some singular commodity held by others, waiting to be given to you.

You know which job is completely tailored to your extra special skills? The one you tailor-make for yourself.

Everything is there for you. Be brave and do whatever it is that you need to achieve your goals. While you wait for the pieces to fall into place, don't be too proud to do whatever it takes to get the money you need. Everyone has to eat and it's nice to sleep in a warm bed. Lift boxes and sweat over a stove. Your soul can handle it, I promise. It can only make you stronger.

[Anonymous No.4151482]

>>4151110
This.

[Anonymous No.4151615]

I'm not American nor British, but why do you guys usually stop with a BA?

Over here, it's almost compulsory to be postgrad.
I'm doing a business school and postgrad History.

[Anonymous No.4151638]

>>4151615
Postgrad here is mainly for going into research within the subject, a history masters job candidate isn't more employable than a history undergrad most of the time, it typically comes down to work experience anyway