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4098004 No.4098004[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>tfw every book you read is derivative and unoriginal
>tfw fiction literature offers nothing of value other than pretty poetic sentences

>tfw your zen training renders all the protagonists' problems empty, illusory, trivial and self-inflicted

>> No.4098025

>tfw you're too pleb to see the originality in it and are just being a giant plebeian who can only appreciate literature at surface value (i.e. for its pretty poetic prose)

>> No.4098155

Did you just complain about unoriginality and then proceed to brag about your zen training?

I think you just checkmated yourself OP.

>> No.4098175

read The Cantos nigga

>> No.4098201

>>4098025

It's because I can see so deeply that I see it is empty

What may seem profound to you now, will eventually be mundane when you get to my level

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>>4098004

>tfw your zen training
>zen training
>training

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4098220

>>4098004
>>tfw your zen training

>> No.4098234

>>4098216
>>4098220

nice filename samefag.
gottcha.

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>>4098234
And yet you still do zen training, kupo.

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>>4098234
Mu.

>> No.4098241

>>4098004
you are missunderstanding zen.

>> No.4098253
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>>4098241
>you are missunderstanding zen.

you don't know how to spell misunderstand.

>> No.4098270

>>4098253
Gosh that's a good point, pedant.
I entirely misunderstood what >>4098241 was saying.

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>>4098234
>he's never seen more than one laughing reaction with the word laughing in the title

>> No.4098285

>>4098253
she's pretty qt

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4098287

>>4098234

>> No.4098291

nah cant see past infinity

you're still thinking telologically bruh i think you need to chill on your ego trip for a little while

take a vacation

maybe bring a book

>> No.4098331

>>4098291

dharma fight me faggot, i dare you

>> No.4098520

>>4098285
yo agreed

>> No.4098752

>implying seeing emptiness means you don't care about things anymore
>implying mountains aren't mountains and waters aren't waters again
>implying you have even the slightest idea about zen with that self indulgent attitude

>> No.4098765

Your zen training will never cure you of your existential crisis. Like an imaginary friend, it will only offer temporary self-delusion before you swing back into cold reality.

>> No.4098770

>>4098201
Confirmed as a troll

>> No.4098797

You can see appreciate the grace of the illusion in a state of zen.
That's what zen fucking is.

>> No.4098835

>>4098287
>>4098234

nice filename samefag.
gottcha.

>> No.4098841

>>4098765
>Your zen training will never cure you of your existential crisis.

What existential crisis? It's your choice to have it.

>> No.4098849

>>4098841
It is a natural consequence of having enough intelligence to understand logic and answer things for yourself.

>> No.4098857

>>4098849
>It is a natural consequence of being confused and deluded by your thought processes

Sure.

>> No.4098864

>>4098857
Not so confused that I would delude myself into thinking I solved it without proof and existentialists are all silly.

>> No.4098870

>>4098864
> existentialists are all silly.

Silly is a fine way to describe their "crisis"

Care to share why you think its so profound and important? Describe it.

>> No.4098878

>>4098870
You're the only one supposed to provide your solution, retard. Of course, do spout your idea. In the end, years from now, you're the only one who will have to live with it, think about it, and laugh at it.

>> No.4098881

>>4098857
>>4098864

This is why the word "delusional" has lost its meaning. It's no different than saying "NO U" in the context it's almost always used.

>> No.4098892

>>4098878
>muh existential crisis, I can't explain it

It's a pseudo-problem and buzz word. For example, you seem unable to put it in words.

Go figure.

>> No.4098909

>>4098892
>buzzword
Says the guy with "zen" training. You're a clown who doesn't even know existentialists find a meaning for their existence. Read some books.

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>>4098909

>ad hominem
>angry and frustrated

cool

>> No.4098918

I stopped believing in existentialism when I asked what a question was.

>> No.4098919

>>4098918

yes it's easy to unravel existentialism, it really falls apart on its own though.

>> No.4098920

>>4098004
What is with Ezra's hair?

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>>4098909

>implying "finding a meaning" is how you resolve the pseudo-problem of existentialism

oh boy

>> No.4098924

>>4098922
>implying anyone ever resolves it
oh girl

>> No.4098925

>>4098919
Indeed, but I don't see how that would automatically result in me seeing everything in existence as a drag.
Like, "Oh, this is nothing but myself in infinite variations living within in the self-implied confines of their own imaginations? How banal."
If anything, I see it as wonderful way to occupy yourself for eternity.

>> No.4098932

>>4098925

>clinging to your thoughts this hard

I guess it's fun trying to catch fish with butter on your hands

>> No.4098934

>>4098932
Absolutely. A world without humor would be a living hell.

>> No.4098940

You've done it OP, you've attained enlightenment. Now the only thing left for you to do is to shitpost about it on 4chan.

>> No.4098942

>>4098940
Not OP, actually this chucklefuck, >>4098934 but there's a Buddhist proverb that I'm going to butcher really quick.

Before enlightenment, wash dishes
After enlightenment, continue to wash dishes

>> No.4098944

>>4098934
Speaking of living hells I just realized my life is awesome as fuck. I am truly perplexed at how most people live shit lives yet still get up in the morning

>> No.4098946

>>4098942
enlightment sounds counter-revolutionary if u ax me

>> No.4098947

>>4098917
>replying for damage control
>implying a zen master would do that

>> No.4098949

>>4098944
Maybe you're just unintelligent

>> No.4098953

Wow finally someone is smarter than not only every author ever but also every character ever. And I'm lucky enough to post on the same anime imageboard with him.

>> No.4098954

>I'm finding a reason to not read books and still feel superior
- OP

>> No.4098958

>>4098947
>>implying a zen master would do that

how would you know what a zen master would do? Are you one like OP?

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4098960

this thread is beauty at its purest

>> No.4098961

>>4098949
I'm posting here so obviously. Whatever I'm just going to act like a condescending dick to everyone for the rest of my life.

>> No.4098962

>>4098958
Someone with Zen training (lyl) wouldn't open threads on an anime image board to feel better about himself. He simply wouldn't give a shit.

>> No.4098965

>>4098944
Yeah, that eats at me too. Death is a very haunting idea to most people.

>>4098946
Of course, it's about individual liberation, not social. Bring a horse to fresh water, can't make it drink, yadda yadda.

>> No.4098971

>>4098962

it's hard to say what behavior zen training could prevent, considering the best Kamikaze pilots in WW2 were trained in zen.

In fact zen training was used to remove soldier's fear of death and killing others.

>> No.4098976

>>4098962
>wouldn't post here to feel better about himself

He posted here to help 4chan realize their buddha nature. It's working

>> No.4098979

>>4098976
he's a sociopathic redeemer, sacrificing himself to better us all, let's kiss his ass for his sacrifice!

>> No.4098980

>>4098920
It's next level

>> No.4099007

That's why Zen is the dogshit of Buddhist sects.

>> No.4099013

>>4098004
Not ultimately inflicted by one thing and being that one thing? (Consciousness?)

>> No.4099022

>>4099007

have you tried it? It works.

>> No.4099028

>>4099022
I guess not. Where's the Great Wisdom and the Great Compassion in Zen? Fucking nowhere?

>> No.4099032

>>4099028

zen has the same fundamentals and uses many traditional sutras.

maybe you should research it more than just what you see on 3min Alan Watts youtube clips

>> No.4099031

>>4099028
Just arhats and mountain-dwellers attaining incomplete enlightenment for themselves. What's so great about it?

>> No.4099036

>>4099032
Yeah, that's why I said "I guess not." will look into more.

>> No.4099054

>tfw fiction literature offers nothing of value other than pretty poetic sentences
>tfw music offers nothing of value other than pretty poetic sounds
>tfw cinema offers nothing of value other than pretty poetic moving pictures

fakkin joyless kent

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>>4099054
Mammaries are made of this.

>> No.4099944

>tfw your zen training renders all the protagonists' problems empty, illusory, trivial and self-inflicted
Being in a shithole where every day you see people living like starving stray dogs has that same effect.

>> No.4101059

Bumping for more zentrainer wow such zen hilarity

>> No.4101407

any sort of meaningful philosophy or spiritual practice will unravel apparent problems and change your perspective

as a result you won't be able to read literature or take it seriously, except a few very rare books

>> No.4101422

>>4099086
Haha, I made this. I feel bad about how pixelated it is, but even worse about how we've been on here what, 3, 4, 5 of the past years straight.

Still, Fat&Faggy has a nice ring to it. Maybe someone should suggest the trip to BEE.

>> No.4101443

>>4099086

I speak truth.