What is /lit/'s ITAOTS? >the one book that everyone here loves / the epitome of /lit/core

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Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:04:00 2013 No.4073737 [Reply] [Original]

What is /lit/'s ITAOTS?

>the one book that everyone here loves / the epitome of /lit/core

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:06:00 2013 No.4073741 File: 87 KB, 271x257, 1370516251007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ASOIAF

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:06:00 2013 No.4073744 Infinity Jest

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:08:59 2013 No.4073745 File: 98 KB, 972x537, Tao Lin - Richard Yates 1319911820282.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tao Lin's Richard Yates

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:09:59 2013 No.4073748 >>4073737 /lit/core is usually considered to be Gravity's Rainbow, Ulysses, and Infinite Jest. And while I would say that Infinite Jest is the epitome of /lit/core, not everybody loves it (>>4071592)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:09:59 2013 No.4073750 File: 23 KB, 333x500, 413HGXT0H8L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] guise pls Don Quixote maybe?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:10:59 2013 No.4073751 What is /lit/'s On the Corner?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:15:59 2013 No.4073762 >>4073745 Is this from the "hugely intelligent.jpg" threads? If so, I was the guy who actually spent a day print screening all that crap. Fuck my 4chan life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:16:59 2013 No.4073764 Fuck off >>>/mu/

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:16:59 2013 No.4073765 >>4073762 Yes, it's from those. Your work was commendable, though when I first started to read it, I thought it was a joke and not the actual book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:18:59 2013 No.4073769 >>4073737 every goddamn day. For chrissake just stop making these threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:20:59 2013 No.4073774 >>4073764

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:20:59 2013 No.4073776 >>4073764 >I am the /lit/ gatekeeper! None shall pass! Idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:21:59 2013 No.4073779 >>4073776 This is a stupid thread and you're a fucking idiot if you disagree with him calling out the OP for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:21:59 2013 No.4073780 >>4073737 Lolita

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:24:00 2013 No.4073786 >>4073737 Everything and anything by Tao Lin.

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:25:00 2013 No.4073787

I think Gravity's Rainbow is the closest thing, but really, I don't think there's anything that really qualifies as the same kind of thing. And not everyone on /mu/ like AOTS. It's just a meme to post the album cover and gush about it.

Infinite Jest was the same thing a couple summers back, but now it's mainly hated on on /lit/. Lot's of people seem like they're into Siddartha or Herman Hesse in general these days.

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:28:59 2013 No.4073792

>>4073787
GR probably gets the least hate of any of the Holy Trinity, so it's a good choice. Both IJ and Ulysses have fallen out of favor, I'm guessing due to a combination of people actually reading them and being disappointed and/or the seeming influx of analytic-type "anything experimental is bullshit" STEM majors over the last year or so.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:28:59 2013 No.4073793 why people keep on responding seriously to these threads. Please /mu/, just go away

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:30:59 2013 No.4073796

In order for a work to be /lit/'s version of ITAOTS, it must be as misprised as it is overrated. It must be just as bad as it is good. It must have literary merit and still no merit at all. /lit/ must talk about it ad nauseum and not talk about it enough.

The only real and true answer is "Infinite Jest". It is literally the only book that fits the bill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:31:59 2013 No.4073799 >>4073792 or because nowadays it's cool to hate things that are obviously brilliant

>>	Charles Crumb !RgOiOjX/k6 Fri Aug 30 19:36:59 2013 No.4073804 I would say Gravity's Rainbow or Ulysses but those are actually good books while ITAOTS is extrmely mediocre and entry-level.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:37:59 2013 No.4073808 >>4073779 >him >implying it isn't you don't pretend that this thread is any different than all the other shit threads on here. /mu/ is shit, /lit/ is shit and if you don't recognize that then you're the foulest shit of all.

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:38:59 2013 No.4073810

>>4073792
>I'm guessing due to a combination of people actually reading them

>IJ and Ulysses haters
>actually reading them

Lol no. The other day I had to deal with this IJ hater who flamed the book for being unreadable and pretentious. Which, if you've actually read IJ, you know it's actually written largely in a plain language style.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:40:59 2013 No.4073813 >>4073741 haha no

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:41:59 2013 No.4073816 >>4073786 >'alternative' literature >being relevant ever

>>	Charles Crumb !RgOiOjX/k6 Fri Aug 30 19:42:59 2013 No.4073819 Oh, I got it: it's Lolita. An average book idolised by everyone here either because they haven't read any better or just because everybody else loves it, so exactly like ITAOTS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:43:59 2013 No.4073820 >>4073792 I think not a lot of people hate GR because there's so few that have read it

>>	james Fri Aug 30 19:45:59 2013 No.4073822 File: 2.64 MB, 320x240, 1377391711497.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4073819 >Nabokov >average

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 19:46:59 2013 No.4073824 >>4073819 >Lolita >average Better than any of your scribblings, m8y.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:04:59 2013 No.4073843 >>4073737 Shakespeare's collected works

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:08:59 2013 No.4073848 /lit/ itself is /lit/'s potato album.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:26:59 2013 No.4073867 >>4073819 You're wrong about both.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:36:59 2013 No.4073882 Gravity's rainbow and Infinite Jest. Maybe Ulysses

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:49:59 2013 No.4073905 >>4073799 >obviously brilliant >Infinite Jest lel

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:50:59 2013 No.4073909 >>4073810 no, it's written extremely pretentiously, but DFW throws in enough "humorous" vulgar words to trick you into thinking he's on your side.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:57:59 2013 No.4073924 >>4073909 b-but i thought he was new sincere

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 20:58:59 2013 No.4073926

>>4073776
Your damn right I am. Once upon a time anyone saying 'pleb', dismissing a book or a genre out of hand without at least a paragraph of arguement, or actually admitting to be from /mu/ or /tv/ was told to fuck off and their thread saged to oblivion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:16:59 2013 No.4073967 >>4073750 What is /lit/'s general opinion of Don Quixote?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:18:59 2013 No.4073971 >>4073926 >Your You tripped on your way in, poor guy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:20:59 2013 No.4073973 >>4073967 I don't know if it's very popular, considering its status, but most of that stuff I've heard about it here is positive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:20:59 2013 No.4073974 >>4073971 Liek i giv a fuk fagot

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:31:00 2013 No.4073985 >>4073967 I'm reading through it now (Smollett's translation) and I don't think I've ever read prose this beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:38:59 2013 No.4073990 File: 110 KB, 640x478, photo9-640x478.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Infant Jets

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:42:00 2013 No.4073996 The Bible

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 21:51:00 2013 No.4074010 /mu/ please go, we're not shitty like you and don't conform to your shitty presumptuous beliefs; nor do we use shitty terms like 'lit/core/'

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:30:00 2013 No.4074093

For the last time, the /mu/core /lit/ equivalents:

>In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Infinite Jest
(Heavily overhyped; heavily trolled; contentious amongst the userbase and the subject of endless discussion; favorite of insufferable hipsters and darling of neuveau critics)

>Loveless
The Brothers Karamazov
(Seen as plodding and boring by some; difficult to get into; lauded by critics almost universally; sweeping and richly textured)

>OK Computer
Ulysses
(Experimental and filled with cultural references; lauded to the point of being essential for any lover of the medium)

>Kid A
Finnegans Wake
(Experimental to the point of masturbatory; impenetrable to the casual audience; sense that fans only claim to be fans because of the work's notorious difficulty)

>In the Court of the Crimson King
Gravity's Rainbow
(Ushered in new era of experimentation in the medium; epic in scope, sweeping; contains interminable passages of stream-of-consciousness riffing/noodling where the artist pursues their own whims, possibly to the detriment of the work as a whole)

>Merriweather Post Pavilion
Lolita
(Least contentious of the board's canon; generally well-respected by posters and by critics alike; displays technical mastery of the medium but can come off as masturbatory; seen by some as dull or too navel-gazing)

>My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Taipei
(Perfectly encapsulates the board's zeitgeist but suffers heavy backlash from the userbase; seen by many as vulgar and artless compared to earlier masterworks; position in board's canon is contentious; used as a punchline; only works not made by a bunch of white dudes)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:32:00 2013 No.4074095 >>4074093 Plebest thing I've ever read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:35:00 2013 No.4074104 >>4074093 >Kid A >experimental >impenetrable to the casual audience

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:38:00 2013 No.4074110 File: 35 KB, 697x571, 1298508173828.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4074104 It's true, though the same could be said about every album classed as /mu/core. Do you think the average Tay Swif fan is going to like Loveless?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:40:00 2013 No.4074114 >>4073748 No one on /lit/ loves IJ, everyone thinks it's trash.

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:41:00 2013 No.4074117

>>4074104

Kid A was experimental as fuck. Radiohead helped pioneer the melding of Aphex Twin style electronic music with contemporary rock. Just because it's old hat now doesn't mean it wasn't fucking mindblowing when it first came out.

Stop trying to look smart by casually dismissing yesterday's innovations. You come off as a tryheard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:42:00 2013 No.4074119 >>4074110 Will you explain this picture?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:46:00 2013 No.4074127 >>4074119 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:46:00 2013 No.4074128

>>4074117
>Kid A was experimental as fuck
word? all i hear are elevator jams and high quality production values. amnesiac was more experimental. but just barely.
>Radiohead helped pioneer the melding of Aphex Twin style electronic music with contemporary rock.
ew.
>Just because it's old hat now doesn't mean it wasn't fucking mindblowing when it first came out.
it wasn't mindblowing tho. why do plebs always feel that accessible expermental lite versions of electronic music (or avant garde music in general) are indications of something innovative?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:50:00 2013 No.4074132 >>4074110 >Do you think the average Tay Swif fan is going to like Loveless? Maybe not Loveless in its entirety, but they'd like THKW, WYS, Sometimes, and Soon and skip over the other songs just like 50% of Loveless fans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 22:50:00 2013 No.4074134 >>4074128 >amnesiac was more experimental. but just barely and btw i know they're from the same sessions b4 anyone tries to hit me with that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:05:00 2013 No.4074155 "Ficciones", ofc. Inb4 "but Anon, I don't like Borges and I'm a respected member of this community, can we jack off to Infinite Jest instead?" - I fucked your sister in the mouth last night and she begged for more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:11:01 2013 No.4074164 There isn't one, because we're not /mu/. Fuck off, ya dope.

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:13:00 2013 No.4074170

>>4074114
/lit/ has had a love-hate relationship with IJ. We once had more IJ enthusiast posts than for any other book (except maybe Gravity's Rainbow). In the last maybe half a year or so, it has drastically plunged in popularity here. But there are still many anions who like it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:16:00 2013 No.4074173 >>4074170 It's been like that as long as /lit/'s been around. Lots of people love it, lots of people loathe it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:16:00 2013 No.4074174 >>4074155 As someone who actually enjoyed Infinite Jest, I must say that Ficciones is better. However, Infinite Jest is the closest analogue we have to ITAOTS, in my opinion. Ficciones does not get enough press on /lit/ to be the equivalent of ITAOTS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:19:00 2013 No.4074178 >>4074174 Ficciones and IJ can hardly be compared. They're completely different in style, form, intent, everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:20:00 2013 No.4074182 >>4074170 >But there are still many anions who like it. Yeah, but there are just as many cations who hate it.

Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:22:00 2013 No.4074185

>>4074093
>Taipei
>position in the board's canon is contentious

There are three types of people:
1. Those who don't think Taipei is part of the "board's canon.'
2. Those who also don't think it is, but pretend they do in order to troll better.
3. Tao Lin

Yes, each category is a subset of the one before it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:24:00 2013 No.4074190 >>4074182 Hahahahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:24:00 2013 No.4074191 >>4073796 /thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:47:01 2013 No.4074227 ITAOTS Evangelion Shadow of the Colossus and of course for /lit/, Catcher in the Rye If you deny any of these you have objectively poor taste.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 30 23:59:00 2013 No.4074256 File: 19 KB, 413x310, danny_devito_hit_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4074227 >vidya >anime

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:01:00 2013 No.4074259 >>4074227 wait, so if you play video games and watch the cartoons that obsessive manchildren collect mostly nude figures of teenage girls from you don't have bad taste?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:01:00 2013 No.4074260 >>4073745 Who reads this shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:02:00 2013 No.4074261 >>4074259 in so many words, yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:03:00 2013 No.4074264 >>4074227 But it's Deus Ex or maybe MGS3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:09:01 2013 No.4074276 >>4074261 Well then sign me up for the bad taste express. NEXT STOP GOETHE!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:13:00 2013 No.4074287 >>4074093 >implying Kid A is good

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:14:00 2013 No.4074288 >>4074093 >actually going on /mu/

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:14:00 2013 No.4074292 >>4074264 >>4074227 ffs it's Dark Souls

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:19:01 2013 No.4074305 File: 22 KB, 328x400, DavidFosterWallace33.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rest of writers of the History, are you even trying it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:25:00 2013 No.4074322 File: 55 KB, 500x407, itaots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw no itaots gf

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:35:00 2013 No.4074346 >>4074170 I like Infinite Jest but I don't post about it because I'm insecure and scared

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:36:01 2013 No.4074347 >>4074346 No shit, why else would you like infinite jest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 00:47:00 2013 No.4074362 >>4073741 I'd concur

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:01:00 2013 No.4074380 File: 15 KB, 260x418, 9780451530066_p0_v1_s260x420.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why has nobody mentioned this? Isn't this whole board a Dostoyevsky circle jerk?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:05:00 2013 No.4074384 >>4074380 >not the brothers karamazov

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:08:01 2013 No.4074386 >>4073924 I'm honestly of the opinion that Bret Easton Ellis is more sincere than David Foster Wallace

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:11:00 2013 No.4074390 >>4074386 Care to explain?

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:22:01 2013 No.4074415

>>4074390
DFW is all "oh we shouldn't be so ironic, it suffocates American culture, we should be more sentimental and sincere and honest," when he still uses a hell of a lot of the post-modern irony he warns against; he is basically posturing throughout Infinite Jest as your friend, but he's like that friend who thinks he's better than you and makes snarky comments so you don't forget it; and he spends most of the novel pandering to WASP-y audiences, thinking that that's the core of America, which comes off as racist and sexist and elitist a lot of the time.

Bret Easton Ellis describes really gruesome, disturbing things, but he does so through the lens of seriously concerned satire. I'm more moved by BEE concerns with America than DFW's. DFW seemed like he chose issues and dealt with them in a way that he knew would both sell books and impress lesser minded critics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:23:01 2013 No.4074421 >>4074386 I agree. I don't like his books or his twitter feed, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:29:00 2013 No.4074434 >>4074421 I like his books, I think he's a good writer and I think he will be remembered longer than DFW will be. His twitter feed, on the other hand, makes me want to scream. He's so obnoxious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:32:01 2013 No.4074444 >>4074415 I enjoy both authors. I also enjoy Faulkner and Hemingway, Camus and Sartre.

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:36:00 2013 No.4074454

>>4074415
i agree with your critique of DFW, dude was good at getting in people's heads like the opening to Girl With Curious Hair where he's like "pretty girls all have really ugly feet" of course that shit gets in the heads of all his women readers as they think "do i have ugly feet? am i pretty? what if my feet are pretty, am i ugly?" it's like a sales trick to make your prospect insecure...but meanwhile they're all thinking "wow DFW really understands women" yeah the same way some gypsy palm reader knows you have a conflict with your dad and are closer to your mother...spare me Wallace

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:36:00 2013 No.4074456 >>4074434 Ellis's prose is so fucking pedestrian and unpolished.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 01:54:00 2013 No.4074484 >>4074444 right, exactly. I think DFW has some good stuff, I'm not saying I don't find things I like about him. I think DFW and BEE are like Faulkner and Hemingway, with their rivalries and their opposing techniques for facing similar problems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 02:05:00 2013 No.4074502 People here have a hard-on for Pynchon, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 02:24:00 2013 No.4074536 >>4074386 >>4074415 I've always thought "New Sincerity" was a sham.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 02:36:00 2013 No.4074564 >>4073996 I LOVE YOU JEEEEEESUSSS CHRIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 02:36:00 2013 No.4074565

>>4074415
I think your critique of DFW is accurate to a certain extent, although I think it's less a case of him posing as your friend and more of him being too insecure to be your friend without some trappings. It's like, he wants to be sincere, but is afraid to relinquish the authority that he thinks comes with being erudite or having all the irony there or whatnot. I still enjoy his work, but he is clearly more concerned with the thoughts of others than his whole sincerity spiel would make him out to be.

I must, however, disagree with your opinion about Ellis. His critique that DFW often boils down to that the guy was too "needy" or desperately wanted fans or whatever, but I find critiques about someone wanting attention to be a bit lacking when they come via Twitter, sandwiched between posts about what he's watching that day, and are clearly designed to provoke people. His writing is fine, and above fine at times (Less Than Zero being my nomination for his best book), but Ellis himself just strikes me as the type of guy who might be funny once in a bar or something but whom I would not want anywhere near my daily life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 03:13:01 2013 No.4074625 >>4074415 most of America is WASP in case you haven't noticed

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 03:17:00 2013 No.4074629 >>4074625 yeah but no one wants to read about generic white guys from the midwest bro come one

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 03:35:01 2013 No.4074653

>>4074629

depends on how you frame it

Fahrenheit 451 is essentially about a white guy in the midwest, and it's still a good, if simple, story. Same with a lot of Philip K. Dick's work.

But regardless I see your point. Nobody is going to sit through 400+ pages a novelization of That 70s Show or Reba

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 04:04:00 2013 No.4074685

>>4074625
Not to mention that IJ has sections about disenfranchised groups like blacks and gays and homeless.

This whole idea in literature today that you can't write about white people is ridiculous anyways. And to call writing about white males racist or sexist is so fucking stupid I'd hope no one but the worst insular SJW tumblr cliques actually believes that.

>>4074629
White guys do.

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 13:59:00 2013 No.4075501

>>4073967
We love it, at least those of us who've read it (very little admittedly).

Something of high praise and widely read? Shit that's really hard to do compared to new mediums like pop music and video games.

My vote? Something Hemingway or if we're feeling really edgy Joyce. We love talking about them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:21:00 2013 No.4075930 >>4074292 >>4074264 >>4074259 >>4074256 >>4074227 /lit/

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:29:00 2013 No.4075949 it's slaughterhouse five surely or something by vonnegut

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:43:00 2013 No.4075993

>>4074685
Those sections about blacks and gays and homeless all sound like they're coming from the point of view of a hyper-privileged elitist WASP, so they sound condescending and racist.

That chapter that's written in "black vernacular"? "Wardine be cry"? are you fucking kidding me? no black person sounds even remotely like that. It sounds like a white person with Down syndrome.

I have no problem with people writing about white people, but DFW handles it very poorly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:46:00 2013 No.4076001 What is /mu/'s Atlas Shrugged?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:48:01 2013 No.4076005 >>4075993 sorry to samefag, but I had to add: William Faulkner grew up in Mississippi in the the first half of the 20th century, and the way he handles black characters is far less racist than the way DFW does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:52:00 2013 No.4076013 File: 47 KB, 240x306, planescape torment.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4074292 >>4074264 >>4074227 It's PS:T.

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:52:00 2013 No.4076014

>>4075993
yeah i hate white ppl who think "ebonics" has no grammar and you can just make up whatever shit you want...it's like just because subject-verb agreement rules are reversed and plurals and possessives operate differently does not mean there is no grammar inherent in "popular black speech" or whatever, fake ebonics to me is no better than writing an asian character to be like "u rikey sum rice wit dat? ching chong bing bong" fuck DFW

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 16:54:00 2013 No.4076021 >>4076005 that's because Faulkner actually knew black people...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:17:00 2013 No.4076069 >>4075993 david foster wallace also makes up some pretty bullshit french too like seriously how hard would it have been to look that shit up or consult with a francophone person

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:27:00 2013 No.4076094 >>4073737 >the one book that everyone here loves / the epitome of /lit/core but many people in /mu/ hate NMH...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:27:00 2013 No.4076095 File: 148 KB, 500x500, front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4074093 >kid a >finnegans wake are you retarded how little you know about music

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:31:00 2013 No.4076104 >>4073926 >Once upon a time[...] anyone actually admitting to be from /mu/ or /tv/ was told to fuck off and their thread saged to oblivion. Translation: Once upon a time there were more assholes like me lurking /lit/

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:41:00 2013 No.4076119 >>4074093 none of this is accurate

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:41:00 2013 No.4076121

>>4074178
reading comprehension. he didn't say they are alike. he said they share an accidental trait (being liked in /lit/. he also said that Ficciones is not comparable in terms of popularity due to IJ recieving much more press in /lit/. IJ is then a closed equivalent to ITAOTS

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:41:00 2013 No.4076122 >>4074119 Shoegaze music sounds like vacuum cleaners

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:43:00 2013 No.4076127 >>4074276 >bad taste express >NEXT STOP GOETHE!! yeah. you'll fit right in

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:43:00 2013 No.4076128 >/mu/ ITAOTS >/tv/ Drive >/lit/ Infinite Jest >/a/ Evangelion >/v/ Deus Ex Is this accurate?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:46:01 2013 No.4076133 >>4074380 because OP is wrong. ITAOTS is not loved by /mu/ unanimously. Crime and punishment is almost unanimously regarded as at least a good book by /lit/

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:47:01 2013 No.4076136 >>4076128 why does everyone like infinite jets so much

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:48:00 2013 No.4076140 >>4076136 cuz it's easy to understand and sentimental

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:56:00 2013 No.4076162 >>4074653 >Nobody is going to sit through 400+ pages a novelization of That 70s Show or Reba I agree about Reba but I would read the other one if it was decently written. 400 pages is not much at all

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:59:00 2013 No.4076168

>>4075993
>sounds like a white person with Down syndrome.
sounds like a person with Down syndrome, you racist fuck. there are some blacks that talk like that though. I do admit, very few, from my experience but so what. The idiot black albino from one of Himes' novels speaks retarded too. Difference being tht he was actually pretty dumb

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:59:00 2013 No.4076170
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>>4076136
White, suburban "intellectual" who never really did anything with his life nor ever experienced any real hardships tries really hard to get into canon.

White, suburban "intellectuals" who never really did anything with their lives nor ever experienced any real hardships who are obsessed with the canon read it.

It's FUBU.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 17:59:00 2013 No.4076172 >>4073737 Op, the issue is that books take a lot of time, so it is hard to find a book that everyone has read, much less that everyone loves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:00:00 2013 No.4076176 >>4073745 that's actually not that bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:02:00 2013 No.4076178 >>4076170 nigger use more buzzwords

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:04:01 2013 No.4076180 >>4075993 did DFW not realize black people do in fact know how to use "-ing" verb forms? smh

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:05:01 2013 No.4076188 >>4074182 i saw that one coming a mile away m80

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:10:00 2013 No.4076195 >>4076128 >Drive This one annoys me the most out of all of them. I can't believe how pleb /tv/ really is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:11:00 2013 No.4076197 >>4075993 god, why didn't DFW's black friends tell him how stupid that was? oh... right...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:13:01 2013 No.4076203 >>4076195 /tv/ is pleb but Drive is god tier You are the pleb if you disagree

Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:16:00 2013 No.4076212

>>4074093
>>Kid A
>Finnegans Wake
>(Experimental to the point of masturbatory; impenetrable to the casual audience; sense that fans only claim to be fans because of the work's notorious difficulty)
are you joking? that description doesn't fit Kid A at all.
>>4076095
this anon has it right

let's fix this, shall we?

>ITAOTS
IJ

>Loveless
Lolita (more about texture/style than actual substance)

>OKC
something really well-done by an author who is more known for an inferior work. I would say a Vonnegut novel, but he's not really /lit/core. Cat's Cradle/The Sirens of Titan would be a fitting analogue, tho.

>Kid A
no idea. Maybe Ulysses.

>ITCOCK
GR fits well

>MPP
entry-level compared to the authors best work, but still magnificent in its own right: Mrs. Dalloway, maybe, or TCOL49.

>MBDTF
something self-aggrandizing and masturbatory. Taipei, then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:18:00 2013 No.4076220 >>4076212 i think mpp is really hipster tier something hipsters would think is not known but in reality is popular and bad more like i dont know on the road

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:30:00 2013 No.4076259 >>4074093 >>Something from Rusty Cooley >Ulysses >Wankery without feeling Fixed

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 18:36:00 2013 No.4076277 >>4076128 I think Kotor 2 is the new Deus Ex of /v/

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 23:12:00 2013 No.4077144 >>4074260 I do. It's delicious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 31 23:20:00 2013 No.4077163 >>4076014 >asian character to be like "u rikey sum rice wit dat? ching chong bing bong but they literally speak like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 1 00:03:00 2013 No.4077241 >>4074093 This is mostly accurate except taipei and Finnegans Wake. The only people who say they enjoyed Finnegans Wake are people that want to say they enjoyed finnegans wake

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 1 00:06:00 2013 No.4077247 >>4077163 what about tao lin he talks like john mccain who is literally the whitest man i have ever seen

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 1 00:11:00 2013 No.4077257 >>4077247 They both talk like stroke victims.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 1 02:56:01 2013 No.4077490 >>4074347 zing

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 1 03:32:01 2013 No.4077510 >>4073967 >tfw I can read the original lol, plebs

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 1 03:36:02 2013 No.4077512 >>4074444 >Sartre If you study Husserl and Heidegger you can not take him seriously anymore. Too pedantic. I would have kicked him in the balls if I had met him.

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