Are you a TV snob? As in, do you do things like refer to the TV as the 'idiot box' or think less of people who watch tv or whatever?

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Anonymous Wed Aug 14 04:47:30 2013 No.4027826 [Reply] [Original]

Are you a TV snob?

As in, do you do things like refer to the TV as the 'idiot box' or think less of people who watch tv or whatever?

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 04:54:30 2013 No.4027839
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No. I fucking hate it though. I haven't watched television on the set since 2009. There are very few tv shows that I enjoy. The Wire, Generation Kill, Firefly (which didn't even finish) BSG when I didn't know any better. Some Walking Dead. That's only like five shows though, out of untold thousands. I guess I am a fairly anti tv person. My family will park their asses in front of that shit and just watch for hours, it's appalling. Or netflix which is the same shit. I don't like that it has displaced reading but I guess people would still be mostly stupid even if they read eg twilight 50 shades

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 04:54:30 2013 No.4027840 Depends entirely on what they're watching.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:10:30 2013 No.4027858 >>4027839 The Wire and Firefly are two of my favourites. Couldn't stand BSG after two seasons or the Walking Dead after the pilot episode.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:15:30 2013 No.4027862 File: 1.04 MB, 990x1272, got pleb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TV is for troglodytes (pic related)

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:16:30 2013 No.4027865

>>4027839
>it has displaced reading
Could be a good thing. We're in a golden age of television right now. If the good stuff overtakes the bad stuff, TV could be the new literature. People are always alluding to the novelistic arcs of shows like The Wire, after all.
Salman Rushdie thinks this is the future.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:18:30 2013 No.4027867 >>4027862 >/tv/ is for troglodytes ftfy

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:18:30 2013 No.4027868 Your enjoyment of one medium shouldn't affect your enjoyment of others.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:19:30 2013 No.4027869 File: 158 KB, 304x382, 1376277994497.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4027865

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:19:30 2013 No.4027870 >>4027868 That's dumb. Often they're highly influenced by one another.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:20:31 2013 No.4027871 >>4027869 It was an innocent contribution to the discussion. It's worth considering all possibilities. It's not really so far-fetched.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:21:31 2013 No.4027873 >>4027858 >The Wire I think DFW watched an episode of The Wire just before he killed himself. Don't pretend there's no connection there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:22:31 2013 No.4027874 I watch Community and Hannibal. I also quite enjoy Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:23:31 2013 No.4027876 >>4027874 >Community Die.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:24:30 2013 No.4027877 I only watch BBC adaptations of great literature. All American TV is tripe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:25:31 2013 No.4027878 >>4027876 No, you die, Dan Harmon is actually an awesome incredibly capable writer and that show's amazingg

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:26:31 2013 No.4027879 Mostly I watch light, silly comedies or cartoons. I tend to intellectually exhaust myself reading and working so if I'm watching tv it's because I just want to zone out for a bit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:27:31 2013 No.4027881 File: 63 KB, 300x100, dfw headline.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4027873 I just saw this banner a moment ago. Never noticed it before. Can someone explain the imagery to me?

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:30:30 2013 No.4027887

>>4027878
You've been indoctrinated by the Reddit army of Harmon-drones. There's nothing special about the show. It's painfully mediocre. Sentimental, uninspired and over-reliant on pop-culture references. It may not have a laughter track, but don't be fooled, it's utter pabulum. You should be ashamed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:35:30 2013 No.4027895 >>4027862 >don't watch some popular shit >watch avatar instead does anyone know the name of the one with two women sitting in that image?

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:37:30 2013 No.4027896

I fucking love good TV. It's where I get most of my comedy kicks. It's one of those things that's great to do when you feel too tired to do anything else. It also never fails to cheer me up if I'm feeling low. Of course I'm rather picky and will download things that I like rather than just channel flicking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:37:30 2013 No.4027897 Of course I think 95 % of tv is shit and for plebs. But I'm not hippocritical. Spending so much time on 4chan is also for plebs

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:39:30 2013 No.4027899 >>4027897 The question is, how much chan time is too much chan time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:41:31 2013 No.4027900 Television can't replace books the way that Discovery channel can't turn you into a physicist.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:47:31 2013 No.4027908

TV has the potential to be great, both for art and for transmittance of information, but most of it is really shitty right now. Especially most news.

There are some gems and I do watch it a bit, but I cannot help but judge the people who watch things like jersey shore or whatever.
>>4027896
Yea, it's especially great for comedy because body language and timing are huge aids for comedy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:51:19 2013 No.4027912 >>4027900 Who here is suggesting that it would ever act as a replacement? Personally I don't think TV is a good medium for learning at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:52:19 2013 No.4027914 TV isn't what's bad, per se, but the institutions that decide what gets shown definitely fucking suck. But that's the same with anything really because it's all the same institutions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:52:19 2013 No.4027916 >>4027865 There's very valuable Kierkegaard discussions in Danish television, I think you're right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:55:04 2013 No.4027918 >>4027917 typo, meant to say exactly 25 minutes a day is enough

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:55:39 2013 No.4027917

>>4027899

imo more than 25 minutes a day is probably enough. Enough time to see all the edgy stuff that you wouldn't see anywhere else, plus get the necessary social interaction I need to avoid going insane.

I must spend over 2+ hours here a day though

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 05:56:04 2013 No.4027920

TV relies on its ability to hook viewers into a routine but the thing with me is I am unable to form routines of any kind. the majority of my interaction with TV is hearing it as background noise when I'm playing setback with friends. as for the shows, the quality ones are few and far between and even good ones fall prey to the need for filler. also I think the distinction between TV and Shows is important, as TV is the service whereas shows are the products. shows become palatable when separated from TV, in my head that is.
and you know it's not hard to be a snob about the content TV delivers; their cheap production budgets and need to appeal to the lowest common denominator in the major networks make it easy. some people just want to watch the same kind of shit over and over and be told what to like. TV fills those orifices.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:01:48 2013 No.4027928

>>4027920
There is actually a surprisingly large amount of shows recently with no real filler.

It's true that TV is by nature prone to that kind of thing, but people are strangely shying from it. I think it's because the public likes to talk about arcs and cliffhangers and things in terms of character development, and you can't really have filler with character development.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:12:30 2013 No.4027940 i love tv, especially all those swanky expensive american shows like breaking bad and mad men and game of thrones and the sopranos and such and such

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:13:30 2013 No.4027941 >>4027895 Tokyo Story

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:13:30 2013 No.4027942

I'm asking you guys this because, fool that I am, I trust the opinion of the general /lit/ user far more than that of the general /tv/ user.
I'm on Breaking Bad S2 E4 right now. When does this show get good again? I loved the first three episodes for the pitch-black humor but since Walt killed Krazy 8 it just feels like a bunch of shit is happening instead of any coherent plan.
Does it get good again, or should I not waste my time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:15:30 2013 No.4027943 File: 128 KB, 300x169, 300px-EastEnders_Title.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >think less of people who watch tv It depends what they watch.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:17:30 2013 No.4027944

>>4027942
up to you man.
the humour does come and go in waves, sometimes it's just a bunch of serious hand wringing and boring domestic drama, sometimes there is a bunch of hilarity and drug making shenanigans.

there is some great stuff in the second half of the second season though, just wait until you get to the better call saul episode before dropping it

prepare to rage at the conclusion of the second series though

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:20:30 2013 No.4027947 >>4027920 >also I think the distinction between TV and Shows is important I agree. I almost never watch TV, but I do watch plenty of shows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:21:30 2013 No.4027948 File: 37 KB, 480x633, 734526_546255282063235_36560242_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4027942 Yes. Season 3 really picks up, and season 4 is even better. The story line with Gus and Hector is the best in the whole show.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:24:30 2013 No.4027951 >>4027942 Keep watching, season 3 is really good

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:24:30 2013 No.4027952 >>4027942 >implying there are any bad episodes Do you even BrBa?

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:29:31 2013 No.4027959
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Yes. I think anyone who intentionally turns on the television and spends hours trudging through this shit must be an idiot. Knowing that there is a specific film, show or documentary on, and turning on specifically for that is one thing, but there are a lot of people who spend the bulk of their free time flicking through a list of unwatchable shit. Anyone who spends six hours a day hopping between crap they have no interest in is an idiot or married.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:32:31 2013 No.4027964

I've seen many great TV series like Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, The Wire, Band of Brothers etc. I don't watch them on TV because they broadcast them half a year later in my country. Occasionally I watch the news or some political talkshow but that's it.

Also Seinfeld, motherfucking Seinfeld

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:33:31 2013 No.4027966 >>4027964 >Seinfeld, motherfucking Seinfeld Have you seen this? http://seinfelt.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:35:30 2013 No.4027970 >>4027964 >I don't watch them on TV because they broadcast them half a year later in my country. You are better of streaming them anyway. 5 advertisement breaks in an hour program destroys the flow of the show.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:37:31 2013 No.4027973 >>4027970 Well they broadcast HBO series in my country on a state-funded channel, so there's no commercial breaks

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:39:30 2013 No.4027977 >>4027966 What the fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:44:30 2013 No.4027981 >>4027959 hey, the 1939 wuthering heights is awesome

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:47:30 2013 No.4027984 >>4027977 Note how there are 76 pages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:48:30 2013 No.4027988 >>4027981 Bargain Hunt followed by Kirstie's Handmade Treasures is better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:50:30 2013 No.4027990 No. In fact I do own a TV, but I don't really know why I have it, because I only ever watch the news, and that's only like once a week.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 06:51:31 2013 No.4027993 >>4027942 s3 starts building back up and s4 is fucking really good, like probably the best season

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 07:00:31 2013 No.4028012 You will never deconstruct modern myth with your qt gf ;_; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOo3adQGYGo

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 07:12:30 2013 No.4028022 File: 209 KB, 1200x675, fly_final.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4027952 >there aren't bad episodes 3x10 man, 3x10

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 07:23:30 2013 No.4028030

My mom is glued to it. There's always multiple TVs on in the house at any given time. Kind of irritates me when it gets to that point.
I watch just a handful of shows The only ones that I can think of are Breaking Bad, House of Cards, Louie, Parks & Rec, and sometimes Walking Dead. I usually just torrent or watch it off Netflix.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 07:34:30 2013 No.4028038 >>4028022 >Fly >not one of the best Full plebeian

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 07:37:30 2013 No.4028040

>>4028030
>My mom is glued to it.

Same.

My mum does this peculiar thing with her head when she's watching TV. If I try to talk to her while a program is on, her head starts to turn towards me but her eyes never leave the screen. If it's just a single question or a comment it goes completely noticed, and the head will turn slowly back to face the TV. If I make a real effort I can break the gaze, and the eyes snap away and I can gain her attention, but it's always accompanied by a look of disgust as she has to pause the program to rewind it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:05:40 2013 No.4028064 Most of it is complete shit but the wire, deadwood, carnivale and a few others are brilliant

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:20:34 2013 No.4028085
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I watch The Mentalist, Dexter and Hannibal.
The only show running now is Dexter and I'm enjoying it so far Even though the first few seasons were better than the rest, I think this season has been decent enough and worth watching.
Eagerly waiting for The Mentalist's last season in winter; it's a very nice show with interesting characters and a well-formed plot. I never see it mentioned on 4chan. I went once or twice to /tv/ to check if it's mentioned, but never.
I posted these here and not on /tv/, because we all know how they are over there. "No thanks, I'd rather /lit/"
Picture not related, but it's from In Bruges, which is a very nice movie. I think all people should see it.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:21:34 2013 No.4028087

I haven't sat down to watch live television in years, but I follow a few shows. I tend to wait until the show finishes and then watch it at my leisure, though not always. Still waiting on my fuckin' Boardwalk Empire. The Wire, The Shield and The Sopranos are among my favourites, there are probably more but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:34:40 2013 No.4028102 >>4028085 >In Bruges my fuckin nigga best movie I've watched for the first time in quite a while

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:35:36 2013 No.4028104 File: 2.77 MB, 252x353, 1376278206525.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028087 >Still waiting on my fuckin' Boardwalk Empire. When does that start again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:49:35 2013 No.4028124 >>4028102 That's what I thought as well. I also recommend The Machinist, it was also a nice movie.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:51:43 2013 No.4028129

TV is exceptionally entertaining but the only thing it has displaced is Hollywood blockbusters.

It gives people a reason to be invested in character arcs but they are always incredibly over-bloated and fall to the way of high-octane drama. It would have potential if it be something without the need for studios to seek popularity.

Anime has more to offer than TV and anime a shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:54:33 2013 No.4028133 >watching the idiot box, or, as I prefer to refer to it as, the electric jew

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:57:45 2013 No.4028138 File: 22 KB, 910x625, sony-tv-screen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028133 I always preferred Charlie Brooker's term, the Black Mirror.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:58:40 2013 No.4028140 >>4028133 >reading the paper jew

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 08:58:40 2013 No.4028142 File: 285 KB, 1436x1080, jons.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028124 I've heard that too, but I never like christian bale

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 09:00:30 2013 No.4028146 >>4028142 >I never like christian bale Oh, it's okay. He's not really American, he's British.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 09:01:30 2013 No.4028148 >>4028146 irrelevant

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 09:08:08 2013 No.4028163

>Why don't you watch GoT, anon?
>I don't like it
>You should read the book then, it's much better
I never got this. Why would I want to read the book just because it's better than the series? Fair enough that there aren't that many TV series to watch besides GoT, but there's so many fucking books I'd rather read than ASOIAF

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 09:41:31 2013 No.4028216 >>4027862 >Avatar >masterpiece Oh my.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 09:43:31 2013 No.4028220 >>4028102 >In bruge Meh, it was okay. Kind of felt like it aspired to be a masterpiece but after the middle didn't bother anymore

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 10:07:31 2013 No.4028274 >>4028140 >using the internet jew >>4028138 I haven't watched anything by brooker besides black mirror and dead set but I'm pretty sure 'black mirror' has nothing to do with modern television

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 10:09:31 2013 No.4028280

>>4028274
"If technology is a drug – and it does feel like a drug – then what, precisely, are the side-effects? This area – between delight and discomfort – is where Black Mirror is set. The "black mirror" of the title is the one you'll find on every wall, on every desk, in the palm of every hand: the cold, shiny screen of a TV, a monitor, a smartphone."

– Charlie Brooker

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>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 10:12:33 2013 No.4028287 >>4028280 Source?

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 10:15:34 2013 No.4028288

Most of TV is garbage, but only because they try to fill 24 hours of the day with information. It's simply impossible.

It's good for high quality entertainment shows like the ones HBO does, and sports.

Everything else should be done by different media.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 10:15:34 2013 No.4028289 File: 111 KB, 487x467, brooker.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028287 >Source? One of his guardian articles. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/dec/01/charlie-brooker-dark-side-gadget-addiction-black-mirror

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 10:23:31 2013 No.4028298 >>4028288 eh TV news could be good but it's done so so so wrongly right now

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 14:21:21 2013 No.4028673 File: 22 KB, 384x288, colbert_elitist_1_061008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4027877 But I like my trashy American tv occasionally.

>>	Celebes !!NWFwVGUkpTc Wed Aug 14 14:30:21 2013 No.4028687 File: 37 KB, 351x600, patrician39.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4027826 yes TV sucks, but I don't really think less of people for watching it (well kinda but not that much)

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 14:31:21 2013 No.4028688 File: 60 KB, 467x347, 1316181247_jimmy-fallon-jersey-shore-467.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028673 Same. I have seen every episode of Jersey Shore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 14:31:22 2013 No.4028689 In the name of DFW, I beseech you to read E Unibus Pluram

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 14:39:22 2013 No.4028701 File: 45 KB, 640x433, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I watch Mad Men and Breaking Bad, but that's it.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 14:47:22 2013 No.4028719

I've watched quite a bit of TV. Lots of teen dramas (GG, OC, OTH, etc), Bravo/reality crap (RHBV, RHATL, Ru Paul's Drag Race, Mob Wives, etc.), boring dramas (HBO, AMC, FX, etc), comedy (overrated brit stuff). I tend not to watch competition shows save Ru Paul and Project Runway and a few others, where the contestants are more interesting than the actual competition and I am pretty ignorant of most golden age/classic TV shows.

I put myself on cold turkey, mainly after reading Postman, and haven't watched anything in the past few months til I figure out a way how I can watch it w/o it consuming my life. But I was pretty pretentious/opinionated with the TV I watch even if I am not discerning on the ostensible quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 14:56:21 2013 No.4028745 >>4028688 >I have seen every episode of Jersey Shore. You will never get back those brain cells.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:00:21 2013 No.4028758 >>4027826 i don't talk about tv, but i do think less of people who watch tv. especially if it's "good" tv like the wire or breaking bad or whatever. that's even worse than the standard trash.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:06:21 2013 No.4028768 >>4028758 >i do think less of people who watch tv. especially if it's "good" tv like the wire or breaking bad or whatever. that's even worse than the standard trash. Can you explain your reasoning a bit more?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:09:21 2013 No.4028778 >>4028701 Whoa, is that from Season 6? Damn I need to catch up on that shit

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:10:21 2013 No.4028779

Mad Men
Breaking Bad
The Newsroom
The Americans
Suits
Person of Interest
Justified
Rectify
Arrow

These are all the shows I'm currently watching.

My favorite television shows of all-time are Mad Men and Deadwood. I've never watched The Wire or The Sopranos but I'll get around to that once I'm done with Fringe. Fuck you, I love Joshua Jackson.PACEY X JOEY <3

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:11:21 2013 No.4028784
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I watch good films and non otaku pandering anime (pic related) via the internet or dvds. Havent bothered to pay for cable or satelite in years. The last good non-adult swim/comedy central show was Star Trek TNG. Whenever Im at a friends place I try to find something to watch but other than Workaholics I never find anything good.
I have a special hatred for cop/law shows and reality shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:13:21 2013 No.4028791 >>4027826 No, I even watch some myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:16:21 2013 No.4028801 >>4028779 >Fringe I watched the whole thing and still don't know if I find Olivia attractive or not. Sometimes she looks stunning, and others like a horse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:17:21 2013 No.4028803 -Red Dwarf -Black Books -Blackadder -Dr. Who

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:18:21 2013 No.4028805
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>>4028784
Also: all of you who watch breaking bad, game of thrones, mad men, sopranos, and etc are in no way better than someone who watches Mtv, desperate housewives, or whatever else is popular among the stupid these days. You're damn right I'm a 'tv snob'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:21:21 2013 No.4028809 >>4028778 It's from season 5, I think. You do need to catch up on that shit though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:21:21 2013 No.4028810 File: 59 KB, 411x395, VFW.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028805 >Talking shit about The Sopranos.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:23:21 2013 No.4028812 >>4028801 I'd smash the fuck out of Olivia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:24:21 2013 No.4028813 >>4028805 Just as you're no better than people who watch okatu pandering anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:24:21 2013 No.4028814 >>4028810 shit of a different flavor is still shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:27:21 2013 No.4028816 >>4028813 >anime Christ, someone who watches Hannah Montana is better than someone who watches anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:30:21 2013 No.4028820 >>4028805 You watch television shows and think people who watch television shows are stupid? What?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:32:21 2013 No.4028828 >>4028814 >Hasn't watched The Sopranos but still feels he can have an opinion on it

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:37:21 2013 No.4028844

TV Shows are undeniably better now (or at least more entertaining) but they are still shallow owing to their desire not to cross a certain line. They owe much inspiration to Hollywood and they have done a great job at emulating certain visual narrative characteristics and blending in the natural appeal of consistency/character evolution over time. They can be interesting (The Wire, Sops etc) but they just constantly feel as if they are scared of treading into certain territories which would make them more interesting, more authentic, more challenging and less accessible.

I think of the method of a lot TV Shows much the same way as I think of Ellen Page's character in Inception. As such, sometimes they can feel really similar to one another.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:37:21 2013 No.4028846 >>4027826 No, i watch a decent amount of tv, although that is only stuff i download, i haven't sat in front of a tv for a whole, as there is never anything good on and i can't stand adverts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:38:21 2013 No.4028851 >>4028813 Never claimed to be m8, im directing my comments at morons who think theyre better than anyone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:41:21 2013 No.4028859 >>4028816 >dismissing entire genres Sup /mu/

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:46:22 2013 No.4028871
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I havent watched television sinceI was 16, 6 years ago, save only adventure time and anime. I dont know what it is, but everything else seems to formulaic that it becomes very very boring. Most anime is like this too, but a few are able to go past the usual formulas. And aesthetically its much more pleasing to watch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:52:22 2013 No.4028886 >>4028816 >disliking anime on 4chan Reddit might be a better place for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:54:22 2013 No.4028893 >>4028886 >Defending Asian cartoons on /lit/ Try /a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h/i/j/

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 15:55:21 2013 No.4028895 >>4028893 No fun allowed!

sage sage Wed Aug 14 16:00:21 2013 No.4028912
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>>4028893
This whole site is filled with anime lovers, that what its based on. Its sort an unsaid rule that anime is accepted everywhere in discussions where its board related.

Which this thread is not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:00:21 2013 No.4028913 File: 77 KB, 849x1217, sample-e832036b5bbb9c1ad19b15f3b23024ed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028893 nice try faggot, but I post on /m/

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:01:21 2013 No.4028917 I really like Drake and Josh. In fact that's all I really watch anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:02:21 2013 No.4028922 File: 26 KB, 696x640, 1371685086348.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028912 >anime isnt a part of television >implying this thread is /lit/ related anyway If I was a mod i'd ban the OP and delete the thread.

>>	sage Wed Aug 14 16:05:21 2013 No.4028933 File: 57 KB, 351x480, 1376116348168.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4028922 Wait, I didnt imply that this thread was /lit/ related? Well whatever, I agree with you, I just cant sage bomb enough though

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:06:21 2013 No.4028935 >>4028828 Actually I have watched the sopranos. Notice that this is an anonymous website. You cant assume anything here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:20:21 2013 No.4028971 >>4028935 >You cant assume anything here. I can. I just did.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:23:21 2013 No.4028973 Yes, but only if it's any sitcom with a laugh track or reality show.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:26:21 2013 No.4028982 >>4028133 Oh hi/heil Dr. Axel Stoll.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:27:21 2013 No.4028984 >>4028917 yes my brotha!! Drake and Josh taught me to speak English very good. I wait for more episodes and hope Josh gets to kiss as many girls Drake.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:29:21 2013 No.4028989 What are some angsty TV shows for me to watch?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:32:21 2013 No.4029001 >>4028971 Well that makes you a newfag

>>	Celebes !!NWFwVGUkpTc Wed Aug 14 16:38:21 2013 No.4029015 >>4028133 Calling the tv an 'electric jew' from now on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:46:22 2013 No.4029044 >>4028912 >This whole site is filled with anime lovers In the past, sure, but that's certainly not the case any longer. I have always disliked anime and most anything relating to Asian culture. I started coming to 4chan for /sp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:48:21 2013 No.4029051 I like Tim and Eric because it deconstructs the whole narrative of modern tv culture.

>>	sage Wed Aug 14 16:49:21 2013 No.4029054 >>4029044 What do you mean in the past? All of the popular boards have large amounts of anime related conversations. /b/ /v/ and /a/ just for starters

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:53:21 2013 No.4029064 >>4029054 Anime and Japanese shit are no longer the main attractions of 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 16:56:21 2013 No.4029069 >>4029051 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEwjogp4wIo

Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc Wed Aug 14 17:02:21 2013 No.4029084

TV is shit and for the most part every show is just a rehashing of character tropes and predictable arcs and stories. That's what they're designed to be, anyway Filler for the average American coming home from work.

I seldom enjoy movies or shows. I'm not gonna namedrop because that's narcissistically unnecessary.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 17:03:21 2013 No.4029089 >>4029044 You're a silly guy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 17:08:21 2013 No.4029099 >>4029064 Oh, are you some kind of authority? Are you moot? Are you refering to /b/? >>4029044 >/sp/ Well I was wondering why you were so cancerous.

sage Wed Aug 14 17:17:21 2013 No.4029122
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>>4029064
I don't think you understand this site. If this wasn't the main attraction, why are there still so many boards and subboards dedicated just to that? If they were unpopular they would be gone

I mean look, 22 of the 64 boards are either directly dedicated to anime or are closely related to anime and have frequent anime related threads, like /v/ and /b/. Most of the popular boards are within those 22.

And I know you might say, 22 isnt the majority of 64, but no single other topic has that much attention to it on this image board. Video games and 4chan itself dont even have that many boards dedicated to the subjects

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 17:39:21 2013 No.4029168

>>4029122
>why are there still so many boards and subboards dedicated just to that?
To keep things contained to specific boards. Boards like /fa/ /3/ /lit/ /mu/ /pol/ /sci/ /an/ /trv/ and most of the others don't give a shit about Asian cartoons or kids dressing up like cartoon characters. The main attraction to this site, the one most kids are lured to, is the moth-like attraction to the intellectual bonfire that is /b/. The gore, the porn, the anything goes free-for-all and exposure to racism and bigotry and misogyny, and all the things society has told them is wrong for 14 years that they can now play with... And that, unfortunately is the mentality carried around this site. /b/ is the lure, not asian cartoons. All the other board have a subtle disgust for that shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 19:01:28 2013 No.4029346 >>4029168 I have to wonder why. The proportion of anime that is shit is no greater than anything else. Is it just more blatant?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 19:45:22 2013 No.4029475 File: 557 KB, 500x341, 1375394364474.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4029346 No its just all in that posters head

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 19:59:22 2013 No.4029518 >>4028289 the guardian isn't a serious newspaper also what if charlie brooker is lying?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:00:22 2013 No.4029521 >>4029518 >the guardian isn't a serious newspaper It's no Daily Sport, that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:02:21 2013 No.4029527 File: 111 KB, 501x595, Electricjew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4029015 Congratulations, you're a neo-nazi

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:07:21 2013 No.4029545 >>4029521 No, it's not, it can get even worse http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/08/dread-daughter-poos-smaller-girl-conform

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:11:21 2013 No.4029555 >>4029527 What's a Neo-Nazi? A white person that doesn't like his culture being destroyed? I guess I'm a nazi then.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:12:21 2013 No.4029561

>>4029545
>A friend told me yesterday that her four-year-old announced she had done a poo "like a brown dolphin". Another friend remembers her little sister sitting on a potty and saying, "Look! It is a beautiful golden sun!" before they all waved it goodbye, discussing the beautiful sunset as they flushed it down the loo. I know I must, but I am resistant. I do not want to flush my daughter's beautiful sunsets down the loo.

That's actually pretty good. It's deserves at least a Wayne Wang film adaptation.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:16:21 2013 No.4029569

There's tons of terrible, mind-numbing television, which leave me a number of sentiments against the medium.

But there's shit in every storytelling medium, and there are some excellently written and innovative tv series on air right now. Breaking Bad is probably the most obvious example.

I also love Adventure Time; I think it's heir apparent to the throne of the cartoon medium. It's surreal, nostalgic, experimental, and of surprising intellectual depth.

Some anime is pretty good - the obligatory series like Neon Genesis Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop are great, especially the former. Fuck I love that show.

What else?
Star Trek: The Next Generation... The Twilight Zone... Fuck, Looney Tunes.

There's been plenty of TV worth watching.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:17:21 2013 No.4029573 >>4029569 >Star Trek: The Next Generation I've been rewatching it, the first season is pretty bad on so many levels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:18:21 2013 No.4029576 I only watch BBC4 and all the 24 news channels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:21:21 2013 No.4029585 >>4029576 I find BBC4 disappointing.

>>	None !!lZetafI6z8s Wed Aug 14 20:21:21 2013 No.4029586 i like sitcoms

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:22:21 2013 No.4029589 >>4029573 It's been a long time since Ive watched it - especially the first season - so you may be right. But it, at least, becomes a damn good show.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:24:21 2013 No.4029596 >>4029569 If you like NGE I would suggest Raxephon, Ideon, and the Getter Robo manga (specifically Go, Shin, and Arc getter)

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:29:21 2013 No.4029613

>>4029596
I watched a few episodes of Raxephon and it seemed in many ways to be similar to NGE to the point of being derivative. The art and mecha design was great, though. Does it get better/develop an identity of its own?

I'll check out the other. Thanks, friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 20:38:21 2013 No.4029639 >>4029613 Not him, but Evangelion had such a huge impact on the industry that there were a number of copycat shows from around that time period. Rahxephon was one of the most blatant. If you want my personal recommendation, watch Utena.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:03:21 2013 No.4029704

>>4029613
The ending of Rahxephon is much better than NGEs, I consider Rah to be superior mostly because I like the MC better than Shinji. There are also some really nice later episodes that I cant describe because spoilers.
But even NGE is derivative: its basically a mix of Ultraman, Devilman (manga), Getter Robo Go (manga), and Ideon with Shinji being a more realistic version of Amuro from Gundam 0079. A little bit of Mazinger in the design of Eva 01 too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:04:21 2013 No.4029708 >>4029704 Also Asuka is basically the same character as Jung Freud from Gunbuster, which was created by the same people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:07:21 2013 No.4029713 >>4029639 Raxephon owes just as much to Brave Reideen as NGE

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:17:22 2013 No.4029737

>>4029704
Yeah, everything comes from somewhere. I think Anno himself credited Devilman and Ideon (mostly the movie, I'd assume) with having massive influence on the show.

Also, if you haven't seen it, I'd highly suggest watching End of Evangelion. It's better than the show's ending.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:31:21 2013 No.4029779

>>4029737
Honestly, I prefer the ending to the show. The resolution is only thematic, but we watch Shinji overcome nhilism bit by agonizing bit. It's beautiful, and when he finally does it I can't help but tear up. We've watched him push his boulder up the mountain time after time, and we finally get to see him find joy it. We must imagine Shinji happy.

Anyways, the film ending is also great, and I completely understand why most people like it more. The first half is incredible and violently disturbing, and the second half has a number of great moments - but the second half is also where the writers just proceed to pull never-mentioned plot devices from their asses as Professor Fuyutsuki gives blatant exposition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:38:22 2013 No.4029792 File: 651 KB, 500x422, 1374788226851.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >4027862 >someone pretending to be Quentin stealing D&E's troll It's like a 7-layer burrito of shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:39:22 2013 No.4029794 >>4028216 To be fair, the visual aspects of Avatar were extremely impressive. The rest, not so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:44:26 2013 No.4029804 >>4028805 >Sopranos >Desperate Housewives u wot m8?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 21:49:22 2013 No.4029820 I don't think less of people who watch television, but I generally ignore it myself. Haven't watched anything on the TV in a few years. One piece of good television I haven't seen mentioned here is Twin peaks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 22:28:21 2013 No.4029867 >>4027826 A little yes. I can't help but feel childish pride when mentioning i don't really watch tv, but I don't ridicule others.

Anonymous Wed Aug 14 22:28:21 2013 No.4029868
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Television is a terrible thing and should have never been brought into existence. If you want to be entertained, read literature or watch a movie. The time you will save and the knowledge you will gain will be far more beneficial than the hours upon hours you spend glued to the television, watching mindless shit or playing video games.

I don't call television "the idiot box" but I do belief that it is an utter waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 22:29:21 2013 No.4029870 >>4027944 >and boring domestic drama that's exactly why I stopped watching that shit. it was great when he was learning about the drug business and becoming a badass but everything else was pretty awful, especially anything to do with his wife

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 22:30:22 2013 No.4029872 File: 34 KB, 413x395, 1310483412100.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4027959 >Anyone who spends six hours a day hopping between crap they have no interest in is an idiot or married. >or married too fucking true

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 22:36:21 2013 No.4029880 >>4029870 Oh God, it gets worse than early-middle season 2? You know, after they kill Tuco.

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:14:21 2013 No.4030041

the unfortunate reality is that a lot of it is pretty good, but what the fuck is the point.

hours and hours and hours just to see some fucking story that is probably a subtle rip off of some other story play out. why ? no really, why ? do people not know that movies exist ? takes generally an hour and a half to watch a fuckin movie . takes 7 hours to watch a season of a tv show. what the fuck is the point ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:16:21 2013 No.4030043 >>4030041 I know! Might as well just read the Odyssey over and over and over and over, ya know?

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:18:21 2013 No.4030046

>>4030043
no really, think about this a little bit more than not at all...

keeping up with just ONE SEASON OF ONE FUCKING SHOW takes like 5-10 hours out of your life.
then you get these americans (im american) who keep up with 5-10 shows for some reason.
WASTE
OF
TIME

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:21:21 2013 No.4030050 I basically only watch sport on tv. TV is alright.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:22:21 2013 No.4030054 >>4030046 How much time do you spend on 4chan?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:28:22 2013 No.4030059 >>4030054 I listen to 1-5 albums of music a day. watch a movie every now and then. crack a book occasionally thats my culture intake putting in the effort to a show just because other people are into it ? why

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:29:22 2013 No.4030065 >>4030054 >>4030059 no but really. almost everyone i know who is "literary" my age barely ever reads. they spend all their leisure time on shit like game of thrones and breaking bad. why should i keep up with this stuff ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 00:33:21 2013 No.4030073 >>4030065 You don't have to? But you don't have to get mad that other people spend their leisure time differently to you either.

sage Thu Aug 15 04:32:21 2013 No.4030356

I learned English watching tv shows and films. Currently learning Japanese and German the same way. This is a clever way of learning a language while simultaneously being entertained and eventually discovering actual artistic content.

Taking many seemingly useless activities and using them in imaginative ways can genuinely turn something initially mediocre into something meaningful and constructive.

I have ADHD and I play long chess games as a method to improve my willpower, patience and lengthen my attention span. What seems to be a useless game turns out to be quite productive and has nice side effects (chess culture, problem solving qualities, new hobby).

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 04:45:21 2013 No.4030378 >>4030356 you sound like a bretty cool guy honestly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 08:05:22 2013 No.4030698 >>4030065 I mostly watch film but it's almost always quality art house film. If they would rather watch game of thrones to a Tarkovsky film then they are likely idiots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 08:38:22 2013 No.4030749 >>4030698 so patrician

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 08:53:22 2013 No.4030779

I like some old series, back when TV was TV. X-Files, TNG, SVU. Now TV wants to be the movie or whatever and all this serialized stuff is horrible. It tries to be more than it is but just ends up being a snoozefest where everyone talks too softly for 50 minutes and then someone dies or gets laid.

I look down on people who get wrapped up in the hype around TV shows, mostly Game of Thrones and BBad fans.

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 08:54:22 2013 No.4030780

>>4027826
No, I don't really take myself that seriously. I would never pay for TV, but I will sit down with my family or friends and watch something like How I Met Your Mother. Just being with those people and laughing with them is a worthwhile use of my time, I think. However, television is too advertising based for me to enjoy any content that is even half decent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 08:55:22 2013 No.4030781 >>4027964 >listing HBO shows You are just the worst.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 08:59:23 2013 No.4030785 >>4029051 I just can't stand the authors/artists that try to take the Tim and Eric approach to their work(millennial parody). It's funny, but it's obvious, and Tim and Eric were definitely funnier than you, kid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:13:23 2013 No.4030807 >>4030781 All those series are very well-written

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:14:22 2013 No.4030812 Most TV snobs are pseudo-intellectuals

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:17:22 2013 No.4030817 >>4030698 >T-tarkovsky's good r-right? Yeah, they'll think I'm real patrician if I like Tarkovsky Casual namedropping is the worst thing you can do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:23:22 2013 No.4030830 in retrospect, i was much more creative and interesting in the period where i watched tv pretty much all day long (my childhood) compared to the period where i sit on the internet all the time (now).

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:24:22 2013 No.4030832 >>4030817 maybe you see a bit of yourself in him

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:32:32 2013 No.4030849 >>4030830 I don't think the two are related. You become less creative and bright-eyed as you get older due to school and other things. At least in America.

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:40:23 2013 No.4030856

>>4029569

>But there's shit in every storytelling medium, and there are some excellently written and innovative tv series on air right now. Breaking Bad is probably the most obvious example.

I don't want to argue because I think your post is good but what is innovative about Breaking Bad?

As far as I can tell it's just well-written (which may have been your point).

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:42:22 2013 No.4030859 >>4029585 BBC4 has become adequate lately. The documentaries are getting more like BBC2 documentaries and half of its schedule is devoted to an old man talking about music he liked 30 years ago.

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 09:45:22 2013 No.4030864 [DELETED]

>>4029737
>>4029779

At first I thought the ending to EoE was great because the emotional pay-off far exceeded the original TV show. Since then I've come to like the TV show ending more because it outwardly focuses on the plight of its characters rather than the spectacle of the world's end - this is essentially the main draw to Evangelion in the first place. The mecha fights are just dressing.

Plus EoE is pretty edgy. Annoyingly so. Like somebody in a state of mania.

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 10:08:23 2013 No.4030886

>>4030859
I was upset that they cancelled a lot of their original programming in favour of buying in sub-par Danish programming, like Borgen. I even like quite a few Danish programmes, but they really bought in some terrible shit.

The documentaries are way too variable in quality, but they still really need to step up on their arts programming. It's inevitably some douche giving hackneyed opinions on pieces. Some of their music stuff is pretty good, a lot of its done by the same guys that did that Gramsci doc for channel 4 in the late 80s/early 90s. The other documentaries are good quality too.

But yeah, I want my licence fee to be spent a little better really.

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 10:13:23 2013 No.4030888

I don't understand you literary types that look down on television like it's for plebs or something.

Reading literature constantly is as bad for you, if not worse than watching tv all day. The person watching tv may occasionally watch a News programme or documentary. If you bury your head in fiction all day you're just as passive and plebian. People that read all day don't think for themselves or create anything. They don't problem solve. They're not exercising their brain. They just absorb all day long like idiots hooked up to drips. Indeed, usually people that read all day compulsively are doing it for escapism because their life sucks.

Reading doesn't make you better than people. It's just a hobby to be done in moderation like anything else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 10:14:23 2013 No.4030892 >>4027826 I was a while back, then I realized I was being a faggot. Now I'm not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 10:18:22 2013 No.4030898 >>4030888 DID YOU KNOW there are also non-fiction books as well as fiction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 10:25:22 2013 No.4030905 >>4030888 good books are always and vastly better than good tv there are shit books, we generally dislike genre fiction and watching good tv is maybe better than reading a shit book but that's not the point I look down on people who read shit books too

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 10:31:22 2013 No.4030917 >>4030888 But I'm a patrician and I don't watch TV, so it must be for plebs. Simple logic, friend.

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 10:57:23 2013 No.4030951

It depends on what you mean by television. Admittedly, some shows are for the brain dead [[Jersey Shore, The Valley's, Made In Chelsea, The Only Way Is Essex etc]] but there can be good, useful information on there. You just need to know where to look. Some people prefer television, because their minds act in a more visual manner, meaning they respond more positively to visual stimulation, whereas others prefer the more physical act of reading a book. Both acts, in the right circumstances, can stimulate and excite your imagination. However, both acts can also turn your brain to mush [[let us not forget the books such as 50 Shades of Gray.]]

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