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Anyone here read Ted Kaczynski's writings in technological Slavery? I feel like I'm getting addicted to the Internet, should I read this?

>> No.3984347

>>3984326
>addicted to the Internet

You're not addicted, you just have nothing better to do, most of the time.

Real addiction is compulsive and controlling. Browsing 4chan for 8 hours straight just because you don't have a job to go to nor friends to hang out with does not an addiction make.

>> No.3984349

>>3984347
I have a good job, but no friends

Fuck, it's hard to admit it

>> No.3984350

>>3984347
What if I've lost a job and friends because of my inability to pull away from the computer?

>> No.3984358

>>3984350
Doubtful.

>> No.3984393

>>3984347
A lot of people use the internet compulsively. I know that I'm on the internet for most of the time I spend awake.

To OP, I like some of what Ted has to say, but he seems more interested in Evolian traditionalism than some kind of Zerzanian anarcho-primitivism.

>> No.3984414

I've read it. It's obviously radical and just a rambling of the same thing over and over again, but I actually did agree with some of the things he claims. I got interested in technological sociology studies after reading Michael Adas' Machines as the Measure of Men.

Anyway, the old Unabomber isn't as whacked out as you might think. In fact, there is one thing he actually pretty much got right about us as a society. At the risk of being reported as a radical myself, I'll let you read it and decide for yourself if you agree with me or not.

All in all, though, it is definitely worth reading. It's super short if I remember correctly anyway. If nothing else, it gives you a glimpse into the mind of one of the most famous and feared criminals of our time. Go for it.

>> No.3984454

>>3984414
I'd also recommend The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul.

>> No.3984496

B-but you guys are all my friends, r-right?

>> No.3984513

>Technological slavery
Sounds like the nonsense spouting of any washed up j.highschool literature teacher.

>> No.3984545

>>3984496
Sure, faggot.

We're total bros.

>> No.3984557

Chuck Klosterman (I know I know) said as much about the Unabomber in one of his essays. He basically said "he was crazy, but he wasn't completely wrong about his beliefs."

He was a major Luddite though, and I think that's just not a realistic way to look at society. There's probably a middle ground that's ideal.

>> No.3984594

anarcho-primitivism is really stupid

>> No.3984596

>>3984496
Of course. I've always felt a strong sense of camaraderie with everyone on /lit/.

>> No.3984615

>>3984326
>>3984326
So the writings of a crazed transsexual who went even further insane after being subjected to MK-ULTRA

>> No.3984655

>>3984615
Transsexualism generally results from feelings of extremely powerlessness among men. Ted had only briefly reached that mental state before he found his purpose.

>> No.3984661

>>3984655
>Transsexualism generally results from feelings of extremely powerlessness among men.


Except...no

>> No.3984672

>>3984661
But, yeah.

>> No.3984677

>>3984655
[citation] or back to >>>/pol/

>> No.3984701

>>3984677

Old diagnostic criteria and other work is being pushed under the carpet to pave the way for a new surgical and pharmaceutical mega-profit industry.

Are you a transsexual by any chance?

>> No.3984703

>>3984326
> Ted Kacyznski's writings

You mean Thomas Pynchon.

>> No.3984706

>>3984701
No and I'm not the first guy that responded to you.

I just want you to back up your claim.

>> No.3984718

>>3984326
You should read some Neil Postman. You'd like him.

>> No.3984792

>>3984706
Transsexuality can be psychologically attributed to dissociation and depersonalization. I won't be convinced otherwise. I also believe that their are some biological and chemical-environmental causes; xenoestrogens for example.

I don't see a reason to separate and single-out transsexuality. Within the last 5 years I'd say a lot of bad things are happening in academia as relating to transsexuality.

I was eating my dinner and I'm not terribly interested in the subject.

>> No.3985393

Certainly worth a read

>> No.3985410

Openness toward the mystery is what Dr. Heidegger ordered. Use the technology for what its needed for and then put it the fuck away. No reason to carry your phone around all of the time or to use the internet for more than research/necessary communication purposes.

>> No.3985422

>>3984358
>I won't let you have this addiction because it makes me jealous for some reason

>> No.3985883

>>3984718
Just ordered Amusing ourselves to Death. Thanks

>> No.3985888

Kaczynski writings are a blatant ripoff of Mercuse and the One Dimensional Man.

>> No.3985954

>>3984326
Is that a real book cover? Very tasteful. Three deaths and a lot of maimings.

Also Kaczynski was a leech on industrial society. It was not despite, but because of industrialism that he could survive on a buck a day. If he had lived some 300 years ago and wanted to fix his crapper with some nails, he would have to pay for it with back-breaking work.

And the rest of the modern primitivists are a bunch of faggots that should die from intestinal parasites.

>> No.3985991

>>3984513
Good one fucktard, remember you're on the internet typing this.

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3986068

>>3984326
>not becoming one with the internet

fuck teddy k-bombs I want a glassfiber IV

>le megabytes straight to the lizard brain
>pulsing electro-orgasms of post-modern ecstasy
>i have become posting
>torrents streaming through my veins
>shared global lucid dream of forever

>> No.3986111

If you're interested in this, there was this amazing german documentary about him callled something like lsd and the internet the the unabomber? wait I'l find it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLqrVCi3l6E

here you go, even in high quality I had to watch it in a format that looked like somebody videotaping a CRT tv in '99 lol

>> No.3986122
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3986122

I definately recommend reading it. THe first half is pretty philosophical and doesn't have that much to do with technology per se. If you're interested in Nietzsche then you'll see the similarties between the two in the first half.

THe latter half is about computers, technology, selective breeding, eugenics, and so on.


Here's the link to the pdf
http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

>> No.3986128

>>3986111
Thanks for this, seen the tv documentary and it was pretty cool.

I hope this vid isn't too conspiratorial though

>> No.3986132

>>3985883
>ordering things that are free

http://floatingworldweb.com/@EBOOKS/@PDF/ESSAYS/Amusing%20Ourselves%20to%20Death.pdf

>> No.3986384

Started reading it today. Lots of his views are represented on /pol/, especially concerning what Ted calls the 'modern Leftist'. It's actually quite entertaining so far

>> No.3987271

>>3985888
Kacynski was taking material from Jacques Elul, which he admits as an influence, the heavily criticizes leftist academics. Have you read this book?