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Is there any real point in having friends?

After getting into nietzsche rational self interest, i just cant see others on the same level as before.

the only friends i can see myself ever making are very intelligent people i can learn from. The general coop of idiots im surrounded by daily just have nothing of value to offer.

>> No.3984088

>>3984081
Have you actually read Nietzsche? Friendship is one of the greatest things to him, he was obsessed with it all his life.

>> No.3984093

>>3984088
Thats not what i mean. In light of realizing I am the hero of this story i call life, and with such big dreams from myself....i just see little value in associating with the majority of vermin we call society. Im sure nietzsche had some wonderful friends that added value to his life...but for me, i see associating with most as a detriment to my own potential.

>> No.3984115

have fun dying alone a self righteous arrogant prick.

>> No.3984132

>>3984115
Think about it. Everyone dies alone.

>> No.3984135

>>3984081
>Is there any real point in having friends?
My god, what a warped viewpoint you must have to even ask this question.

Can you really not use your brain to think of ways friends are useful? Like, for fun, for helping you move things, to identify with them and talk, to learn about life, to get a job, or anything like that?

Friends are invaluable in a world like this. We are social creatures. We are like primates.

You just have to think about the traits you want your friends to have, and then go meet people like that.

My friends and I talk about literature, politics, philosophy, and life, and we never run out of topics because we are all creative and insightful, and derive pleasure from thinking.

>> No.3984148

>>3984093
You sound deep in the throes of babby's first Nietzsche reading. I don't say this often, but you need more nihilism.

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>>3984132
Yes, yes, but there are different qualities to a person's lonely death.

>> No.3984157

>>3984132
>Think about it.

Isn't it ironic that this statement invariably causes people to stop thinking.

>> No.3984166

>>3984135
I like how the number 2 reason for friendship is for helping you move things

>> No.3984180

>>3984132
Some people die surrounded by loved ones and family, you edgy piece of shit. Just because dying is a personal experience doesn't mean it's a lonely one.

>> No.3984194

>>3984180

I rather die alone and fulfilled with nobody ever remembering me than die unfulfilled with people who think biology is some divine spiritual calling at my side telling me what a great friendfatherfuckbuddy ive been

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>>3984194
How old exactly are you?

>> No.3984200

We're friends.

>> No.3984214

>>3984200
No were not


everyone dies alone because dying "at your familys side" means nothing. if your times up, your times up. your fulfillment is evaluated before the fact.

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>>3984194
This is like an edgy sixteen year old girl mentality.

>> No.3984217

>>3984202
20

and wise beyond my years.

>> No.3984219

>>3984194
eugghhhh, just painful

>> No.3984229

>>3984081
>the only friends i can see myself ever making are very intelligent people i can learn from. The general coop of idiots im surrounded by daily just have nothing of value to offer.

Do you even see the irony in that sentence?

You're so full of yourself.

I'm sure those intellectuals you wish to be in the company of and seek knowledge from could just as easily dismiss you as being part of that coop of idiots they are surrounded by.

>> No.3984230

>>3984214
sure.

>> No.3984236

>>3984217
troll detevdcdwr4mrtted

>> No.3984243

>>3984229
I mean mutually, obvoiously. otherwise itd be charity (what i consider being friends with stupid pepple)

>> No.3984247

>>3984157
it doesn't though

>> No.3984245

i have only left my house to socialize once this summer, and then that was a party where i didn't talk much. i'm fine with it. adjusting to a "friendless existence" took some time, but now i feel pretty comfortable. lately, the only irl communication i have outside of 4chan and a skype group for work is one friend who i talk to on steam occasionally.

my best friend is 4chan... and it calls me a faggot every day

>> No.3984249

when a girl wants to see your circle of friends, it's good to have semi-friends

>> No.3984255

Op is a deluded neck beard. Next.

>> No.3984256

OP, actually read all of Nietzsche + nachlass + Curt Paul Janz biography. It'll change your ways.

>> No.3984262

>been at uni for 3 years
>still live with parents, made zero friends or acquaintances

It kind of ate me up inside, I think I was heading towards depression, but I improved my life in other ways and I am completely over it.

With regards to OPs elitism/snobbery though, I think I can relate. I'm doing a few menial part time jobs this summer and when I hear about people who go to college (which in UK is for people who aren't smart enough to go to uni) I get weirdly mad, as if I'm annoyed I have to be with people this dumb. I now think I couldn't bear to have a friend who's lacking motivation or dumb. (Not that I act vaguely smart in everyday situations, I'm just like anyone else.)

>> No.3984279

>>3984262
How'd do all the shit jobs if everyone was a university-level snob?

>> No.3984289

>>3984081
Humans are pack animals. You go rabid without friends.

>> No.3984307

>>3984093

Are you certain you haven't been reading Ayn Rand? Please check the title of what you're reading again.

>> No.3984309

>>3984245
you have convinced yourself it's ok because you're too much of a pussy to try to make friends and feel like you're too far gone now

>> No.3984313

>>3984245

>this summer

When will it end?

>> No.3984320

>>3984262

>weirdly mad

What are you? A 16 year old girl?

>> No.3984322

>>3984309
>implying everyone wants or need friends
>denying the hermetically inclined part of humanity

>> No.3984327

>>3984322
>hermetically inclined part of humanity
That part is exceeding rare. Everyone has bouts of it, afternoons where you're completely content entertaining yourself, but over time that just becomes a burden.

>> No.3984360

>>3984309
I've done conventially brave things in my life, if that constitutes not being a pussy. If a situation is awkward I will make it less awkward by saying something to someone. And I will answer people cordially if they ask me things. I enjoy time with friends if they invite me over, and sometimes I even invite friends over to do something. I just feel that i don't /need/ time with friends. internet/books maybe replaced that need.

>> No.3984370

>>3984081

Epicurus had a lot to say about friendship. Hope you enjoy.

http://wiki.epicurus.info/Friendship

>> No.3984390

>>3984081
Of course!

Use them for entertainemnt, access to drugs, and overall windows of social escapism when you get bored of reading!

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>>3984360
> Internet/books replaced the need for friends.
Not likely in the fashion that you think. In all likelihood, the constituents of 4chan ARE your friends. If you think about it a bit, there's little difference between the melting pot that is 4chan, and an actual human being. In fact, one could make a compelling argument that the Internet as a whole fully retaining the characteristics of it's progenitors.

If I was a tad more eloquent I could fully explain why and how this is, however, being as I am, I'll leave it as an exercise for others.

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3984444

>tfw no qt intellectual gf

>> No.3984455

I really want to have just 1 or 2 really close friends.

but internet has opened too many doors so that there far too many possibilities to consider. it's not people anymore. Just a crowd.

I either only talk to people here because I am distance from you. or not at all. :((

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3984459

>>3984444
>tfw no qt intellectual gf or quads

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>>3984081
It's ok OP, nobody would want an asshole like you for a friend anyway, so everybody wins.

>> No.3984463

>>3984444
>>3984459
Intellectual females are nigh a myth. You're better off searching for dragons.

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3984464

>>3984444
I know that feel

>> No.3984470

>>3984463
Hey, I'm an intellectual female.
Except I'm one of those dyke lesbians.
Do I count?
This always confuses me.

>> No.3984478

>>3984081
It's ok OP, not every fedora wearing faggot on the internet was cut out for real life.

>> No.3984483

>>3984470
No.

>> No.3984484

>after getting into Nietzsche
Oh boy here we go
>idiots I'm surrounded by daily

Saw that from a mile away

Ok Mr PhD enlightened Uberdouche, it's one thing to get into existentialism and absurdism, it's another being delusional. One's a philosophical school of thought, the other is being a jaded individual using existential claims to justify acting a turd.

I can understand being over your current social circle, but you're not gonna find like minded new friends with this shitty "are they smart enough to be with ME?" attitude. I mean damn stop listening to Linkin Park and get over yourself

>> No.3984485

>>3984484
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAL
FEAR IS HOW I FALL
CONFUSING WHAT IS REAL

>> No.3984493

>>3984485
To be fair, "after getting into Nietsche" and "idiots I'm surrounded by daily" is basically crawling in my skin for pretentious, friendless teenagers with an unappealing body-mass.

>> No.3984515

>>3984493
I know, I actually agree. I'm just socially obligated to post that dreck after you mentioned Linken Park, my apologies.

>> No.3984514

>>3984493
op's picture said it all for me

>> No.3984522

Sounds exactly like me at 16yo.
God you were awful, parallel past me.

>> No.3984554

>>3984088
He also concluded that the only true friendships were with those that shared the same ideas as yourself and he found nobody at the time.

>> No.3984556

>>3984132
>I'm a pseudo intellectual who has watched Donnie Darko and like to think I'm smarter than everyone else around me

>> No.3984562

>>3984132
You live alone, too. Language is the closest to bringing our unmingling minds together. Same thing for sex in regards to bodies. There are many different kinds of approaches to this impasse, if you want to call it that. I lean towards gratitude & enjoyment of beautiful things.

>> No.3984563

>>3984522
Me too, glad I grew out of it.

OP probably doesn't know how to enjoy himself and it can be difficult to learn. I find it pretty easy to just smile at people when they say stupid things, or act stupidly. Because we're all prone to acting on emotion at time, which is what stupid people do.

>we're all stupid

>> No.3985876

>>3984327
I'm fine with seeing my friends maybe once or twice a year.

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>>3984132

>> No.3985878

>>3984081
>Is there any real point in having friends?
To do what you're doing now? You know, communicating with other people

>> No.3985881

>>3984562
I don't know man. At that point that you can sit with someone for hours without talking and without it getting awkward, that's pretty together.

>> No.3985916

>>3984563
im not stupid

>> No.3985951

delusions of grandeur become awfully pathetic in the hands of impotent bourgeoise suburban kids with no access to either hardships or noble mind

if you truly read big N you should have realized how you are not one of the great man, but rather, fueled by your own lack of strength, creating a spook elitist image.

or as the hot chick wtih DDs in high school would say "he's just an insecure nerd trying to make up for a small dick"

>> No.3985967

>>3985951
does your mom know how you talk on the internet?

>> No.3985971

>>3985967
you wanna find out, big boy?

>> No.3985974

>>3985951

But, monsieur, you must agree that a small penis remains small even after great deeds are done? Why not then too a small mind, a small life, and a small ego too?

>> No.3985979
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3985979

dont waste your time

become an übermensch

>> No.3985978

>>3985971
are you inviting me to fuck your mom?

>> No.3985986

>>3985978
do you wanna find out, BIG BOY? en garde motherfucker, you are treading on treacherous waters

>>3985974
i once knew a girl speaking with a pretty accent like yours but once i engraved her womanhood
with the letters of "BBC" she threw of her mask and starting shouting farts in Irish

>> No.3986022

>>3985986
I bet your mom fucks like a tiger.

>> No.3986029

>>3986022
Have you fucked many tigers?

>> No.3986050

>>3984444
>>3984459
>>3984464
>not finding boys qt

>> No.3986055

>>3986029
Three. And a polar bear.

>> No.3986062

>>3984444
>implying

Yeah, and i'm enjoying a bread without flour as I write these lines on my keyless keyboard.

>> No.3986063

>>3986050
>Not finding both qt
You're just doing everything wrong

>> No.3986064

>>3986062
And that's probably why.