/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.3912589]

Attention /lit/erati

I am offering the chance to have you work revised by an editor of a University Press/3rd Year Ph.D student/Tutor/whatever...

Basically I am about to finish my Ph.D. (viva in Jan! woo!) and have a lot of free time.

I often lament the talent, imagination and creativity on this board when taken in conjunction with the abject stylistic errors I am confronted with.

Please do not hesitate to send me anything under 10,000 words. I shall send you a report on grammatical repairs within 3 days, free of charge.

Inb4 the slightest typo negates my qualifications
Inb4 the doubting of my qualifications.

My thesis is in the linguistic response to the manipulations of ecclesiastical doctrine in 14thC. England.

(I guarantee you that the dumbest /lit/ poster knows more than me about contemporary (meaning post 1974) lit. than I do. I am however also published on 'T.S. Eliot and The Great War', The Scientific Readings of A. Tennyson (a glorified Lyell comparative ) and 'The Historical and Socio-Political Fiction of William Morris.

[e-mail]

tl:dr: Free editing.

Feel free to ignore my advice: If it were my work, I would probably ignore yours.

Inb4 durrrr Post your name, thesis, and institution.

"Take it or leave it"
-Julian Casablancas

[Anonymous No.3912605]

>>3912589
I mainly write about Chaucer (as if to compound my uselessness)

[Anonymous No.3912617]

is this it?

[Anonymous No.3912622]

>>3912589
>My thesis is in the linguistic response to the manipulations of ecclesiastical doctrine in 14thC. England.
You did just dox yourself.

The devil does fuck the arse of heretics, daily.

ps: VURT ET PURPURE VERT ET PURPURE VERT ET PURPURE VERT ET PURPURE

[Anonymous No.3912636]

>>3912622
Oh no
>>3912617
Yes, the pubes on the album cover are about it for you, young sir. Good effort, none the less.

[Anonymous No.3912643]

>>3912636
aint no pubes on the album art
its a big knee

[Anonymous No.3912649]

>>3912643
Huge.

[Anonymous No.3912654]

>>3912589

>implying most of /lit/ doesn't have at least your qualifications

fuck off op

[Anonymous No.3912655]

>>3912589
>My thesis is in the linguistic response to the manipulations of ecclesiastical doctrine in 14thC. England.

boy did they swindle you

[Anonymous No.3912656]

OP is probably one of those "English experts" that think it's incorrect to end a sentence with an adposition.

[Anonymous No.3912660]

>>3912654
Excellent, did you enjoy your Ph.D as much as I have? Did you find an impending TMC system more constructive than a purely revisional one?

Just curious as I have met my first Ph.D. student for January and they are coming from the US,

[Anonymous No.3912664]

>>3912589
So you basically want free ideas for your work.

Why don't you read a book instead?

[Anonymous No.3912682]

>>3912664
I am offering a free edit (meaning basic grammar etc) in exchange for nothing.

I have read several hundred, and am now finished my thesis (god -willing!). Please do not assume this is a scam in order to seek literary inspiration, as we both know: I doubt the historical entirety of this board has two good ideas to rub together.

My thesis is also on 'Mediaeval ecclesiastical Complaint' which is hardly an abundant topic here.

>2013
>replying to trolls
Why do I do it?

[Anonymous No.3912692]

>>3912655
I have a contract beginning in January ( although I have to move 400 miles) and the wage is quite handsome. I can imagine that your cynicism is quite justified; but for every chump wanting to do an English degree, there must be people to teach it- so I imagine I am the swindler?

:- Although I must admit, I have to resume my (awfully shit) bar job until January, so will be pulling pints with a Ph.D. (so temporarily fit the template you are trying to extrapolate towards a whole)

[Anonymous No.3912698]

>>3912656
I am no expert. I have merely completed a thesis and have a First Class Hons. Degree.

I didn't even do a Masters, which is surely a far worthier point of ridicule than your current route.

I offer no defence on my previous stylistic mode as I feel I do not have to.

[Anonymous No.3912701]

>>3912682
You wouldn't know a lollard revolutionary if he burnt you alive.

[Anonymous No.3912703]

>>3912692
Where in Christ's name can I find more of those dog pictures? I see them on tumblr and 4chan all the time but I don't know where to get them. Or even if they have a name. Or what the name of the breed is. Anyone help out?

[Anonymous No.3912704]

>>3912692

you sound like massive faggot

sorry op

[Anonymous No.3912706]

>>3912701
Lollard were not revolutionaries unless you follow Prof. Wendy Scase's conclusions from'Piers Plowman and the New Anti-Clericalism' or 'The Literature of Complaint 12xx-15xx', I am far more in line with Anne Hudson's conclusions but within a framework of textual analysis.

Also: The Lollards burnt few, if any, people, and the term is terribly misappropriated.

[Anonymous No.3912709]

>>3912703
here

[Anonymous No.3912708]

>>3912698
>I am no expert. I have merely completed a thesis and have a First Class Hons. Degree.

More dox. You're Australian.

[Anonymous No.3912711]

>>3912708
Nope
>>3912709

[Anonymous No.3912714]

>>3912704
Thanks.

>>3912703

[Anonymous No.3912716]

>>3912703
http://runt-of-the-web.com/shibe-meme

[Anonymous No.3912721]

>>3912706
Denying the link between clergical Lollardy and populist discontent is fairly spurious. Claiming peasants weren't revolutionary because they had a mystical belief in a king is the same as claiming that trots aren't revolutionaries because they have a mystical belief in a bourgeois party.

[Anonymous No.3912722]

>>3912716
>http://runt-of-the-web.com/shibe-meme
THANK YOU
And thanks other people.

... So research

[Anonymous No.3912724]

>>3912711
I you proceeded to a PhD without a Masters and with a first class honours, the two options are that you're Australian or Kiwi. UK honours are a joke. Yanks don't know what they are.

[Anonymous No.3912729]

>>3912721
I never said anything of the sort. I made clear textual references to the nuances of the argument. You simply replied without any reference to the sources given. If anything the link is well maintained and 'most likely'; a strong one. However, the assumption that a text such as 'Pierce the Ploughman's Crede' or 'Jack Upland' (both so evidently borne of 'the midlands') could permeate common reformist thought (that of Wat Tyler etc *1381) is not concrete- to the extent that claims as such would be inadmissible in a reviewed thesis,

[Anonymous No.3912734]

>>3912724
In the United Kingdom it is customary to complete a MA(sters) first. I was lucky enough to convince my prospective Supervisor that my dissertation was adequate grounds for entry.

[Anonymous No.3912737]

>>3912721
There were obvious and strong arguments to the contrary. I personally, within my thesis, had to argue that Chaucer was a pro-Lollard writer, whilst exploring the limitations of his position.
Cite: Baum

[Anonymous No.3912739]

>>3912729
In a thesis perhaps, but it is an adequate commonality in the socialist movement; and a historian arguing from theory (as is legitimate, even in Thompson).

[Anonymous No.3912740]

>>3912734
Yeah, an Honours in the UK with a research training component is fairly rare. Fair enough, good on you.

[Anonymous No.3912746]

>>3912739
Socialism
>1380
You sound exactly like William Morris. I just wrote a paper on the anachronistic use of such terms to discuss the mediaeval livelihood.

Have you read G.W.S Barrow's 'Feudal Britain'? It sets these poles apart wonderfully.

>Please query for further explanation,

[Anonymous No.3912750]

>>3912740
I went straight from my Undergrad to Ph.D. As I did my degree in Scotland, they were very accepting of my application in [the institution I applied[.

Thank you for your kind words.

[Anonymous No.3912755]

>>3912746
>anachronistic
Claiming that Lollards reflected on themselves as socialists is anachronistic. Noting that socialists recognised in the popular movement around Lollardy the feudal prefiguration of their own struggles is relatively common place.

We don't need Althusser to recognise the metaphoric connection between ongoing moments of human society. And to bring out a big word like "anachronism" when talking about contemporary remembrances of past events is invidious. No theory is possible without the "anachronistic" remembrance of the past in a form suitable for modern recollection. Imposing the specificities of the modern on the past is invalid; failing to recognise in the past things that we can comprehend is ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.3912759]

>>3912589

Hey OP, you seem like a cool guy. I don't need any editing, but your pic caught my eye. Say, what do you think of The Parson's Tale?

[Anonymous No.3912760]

>>3912750
>Scotland
This explains _everything_. You did your degree in a real system.

[Anonymous No.3912763]

>>3912737

Chaucer the Lollard?

[Anonymous No.3912768]

>>3912755
>Claiming that Lollards reflected on themselves as socialists is anachronistic. Noting that socialists recognised in the popular movement around Lollardy the feudal prefiguration of their own struggles is relatively common place.

I must admit, it is a curious, if not relevant fact, that Karl Marx has -on his British Library record- 13 renewals on William Langland's 'Piers Plowman'. It is also easy to view the text (especially the A.C.V Schmidt trans. of the B text- a common version in modern vernacular) as being one entirely reformist om nature. I fear that is the subtle difference: that of 'reform' against 'revolution'
*Please do ask of you wish further clarification on this.

I personally feel we are dealing with the 'literature of complaint' as suggested by Prof.Scase, yet this complaint was somewhat embryonic.

My job, if I may call it tnat, is to look for common complaints (that is to say those that are repeated against a modest but tumultuous timeframe *1350-1480) and find historical accuracy.

I am basically acting in rebuke of Prof. Robert Swanson's pending work on Pardoners and Indulgence. I also plan to prove how Chaucer and Langland (+ 12+ others) provided a vernacular translation of the KEY TENETS of biblical/Christian morality and raise thatas a precursor to the Reformation.

I may have lost track of your original question: You are clearly educated do please inform me if I have.

[Anonymous No.3912782]

>>3912759
Love it.
Am currently researching it as 'Chaucer's transcription/depiction of biblical morality.

*forget vernacular influence, forget iconography- this is Chaucer telling you the key tenets of biblical morality . (Also I have written a paper on Marlowe's Mediaeval Sources' good fun!

Look at the subtle nods to St.Paul (Pauline Epistles) and Chaucer's retraction. The Tales were didactic and , in themselves, as much a 'translatory timebomb' as Luther's Bible. (Or the Wycliffite Bible.)

Chaucer was teaching the basoc tenets of Christian Morality (the route to heaven) through his works, The same way that the veneration of Ploughman did the same.

(in a 14thC. mindset obviously.)

[Anonymous No.3912786]

i love english so much

[Anonymous No.3912788]

>>3912782
typos etc
> must be lying as I spelled 'basic' wrong!

[Anonymous No.3912792]

>>3912760

[Anonymous No.3912802]

>>3912782

You know the sources and analogues for it, right? Peraldus, Pennaforte, the anonymous Summa Virtutum de Remediis Anime? Very conservative.

Yes, you get the seven deadly sins AND the contrary virtues, just like Ploughman, Psychomachia, etc...

Some read the whole of the Tales as didactic for each vice and virtue. Siegfried Wenzel is a great Chaucerian, I know he thinks of it that way. It's controversial though. Some just hate the Tale. Me, I think it's fascinating. I love moral philosophy so the Tale is right up my alley.

[Anonymous No.3912804]

>>3912763
A common historical misappropriation.

see>
>Thynne's 1560>? edotion
>Speght's 1598/1602 edition

Both include 'The Plowman's Tale'- a Lollard text, never even read by Chaucer.

NB: We should probably explore the reduction in Hagiographical Lit. Post 1548 ( for pbvious reasons) as well as the rise in Humanist lit (take Boccaccio's 'Life of Dante' as read."

[Anonymous No.3912807]

>>3912768
>I may have lost track of your original question

I was putting shit up you, and it was fruitful. The idea of a vernacular positing of Christianity's tenets is quite interesting; in a "long duree" form it reminds me of the pathetic need bourgeois intellectuals have in terms of imparting morality to the masses. (The _pathetic_ element is that ideas can't cause proletarian knowledge as such, only action). Which means that Chaucer may have been more correct in passing knowledge to the masses.

Marx's ideas of peasant revolt as reformist I'd suggest is bad historical judgement on Marx's part. He never was the historian, compared to Engels. Engels of the German Peasants War is better here, it shows the possibility of a coming to historical knowledge in action. Luther Blisset (the autonomists)'s _Q_ covers the same point. The demand for the reformation from Peasants was a revolutionary demand in this way.

[Anonymous No.3912808]

>>3912589

Clearly a troll.
No one writes like this, in a conversation.
1/10.
Clearly trying to illeciate a response by pretending to sound superior in that way where he appears helpful in a condescending way. OP is why no one takes literature seriously.
"As you can see the author made the curtains red, clearly this indicates his communist ideals and denial of the marxist system. If you read Hathaways works you will see this correct as she is almost as good as me."

Fuckin plebs who think grammar isn't a means to convey an idea but a strict set of rules that must be followed at the cost of fluidity.

[Anonymous No.3912816]

>>3912808
I think op is a bit of a fag
But you are sucking a city of cock

[Anonymous No.3912815]

>>3912802
Also Evargius,St.Ouen, and St.Augustine: If we want to add a little historical/Christian 'bite' to our argument.
(As I did, using your exact sources combined with mine [stated].)

Good show sir!

My entire thesis is a depictin of 'Chaucer the Evangelist' (well about 25% of it, the rest is made up of clerical complaint from other sources.)

[Anonymous No.3912821]

>>3912807
So you refute iconoclastic depictions of Christ 'Dividing the Harvest'? Interesting...wrong, bit interesting.

[Anonymous No.3912829]

>>3912816
I wish I could lick your fucking salty balls you big faggot. I bet you would love to cum in my mouth you gay fuck.

tl,dr I would love to like you balls.

[Anonymous No.3912830]

>>3912802
wait are we talking about anime ITT

[Anonymous No.3912833]

>>3912830
Please don't tell me....

[Anonymous No.3912838]

>>3912829
I'm Ok with getting my cock sucked if you're reasonably effeminate

[Anonymous No.3912839]

>>3912815

Well said, man. Any way you could email me the thesis when convenient? If so, I'll reach out to the address you posted.

[Anonymous No.3912843]

>>3912830

What?

[Anonymous No.3912846]

>>3912843
i saw someone mention anime amidst all of the pedantic trifling going on in here

[Anonymous No.3912848]

I bet most of you already emailed OP

[Anonymous No.3912849]

>>3912839
Please do. My main argument is 'Chaucer as 'Transleteur Divinus', as opposed to 'Grand Tranlseteur': That he was trying to present a didactic, moral code; from which [the mediaeval view of] eternal salvation was possible. You have my email. :D

[Anonymous No.3912851]

>>3912838
I'm in scotland

[Anonymous No.3912855]

>>3912821
I'm a modernist, so you've lost me here.

[Anonymous No.3912856]

>tfw you get first class honours, travel for a bit, come back to school for your PhD but but your supervisor dies, so you apply elsewhere, get accepted, but miss the funding deadline by literally a day, and end up settling for a lowly master's program so as to avoid any more time stagnating.

hold me /lit/ ;_;

On a more serious note, how long are you doing this for? And are you capable of editing for more than grammar? I'm actually pretty happy with my grammar-- errors and all-- but I could use some external feedback to see if the things I've written actually 'work'/ aren't corny as fuck.

[Anonymous No.3912862]

>>3912856
Hey, I am willing to initiate a working relationship with anyone willing.

[Anonymous No.3912866]

>>3912862
this would be funny if "for" were spelled "faugh"

[Anonymous No.3912878]

>>3912866
Can you guess this?

It currently hangs in the THE staff room (and as a contest to decipher it for about 4 days)

Also: Duly noted

[Anonymous No.3912881]

>>3912862
Do you write any fiction yourself?

I was actually about to join the writing club here next semester just to find a writing partner. I thought the process of editing someone else's stuff might be both interesting and beneficial. Mind you I've never edited before, and I'm not a terribly proficient writer (my research is in Psychology, which only demands that writing be comprehensible), so I don't know if I could even give useful advice.

[Anonymous No.3912890]

>>3912878
I cheated but I'm pretty sure it's Fresh Prince of Baudelaire.

[Anonymous No.3912892]

>>3912881
Hey.

I am terrifically boring and -for the purpose of this site- write exclusively academic lit.

I of course do not and write (DIDACTIC!) yet fictional works

[e-mail]

I must sleep but shall make this thread tomorrow - and every other day - until ONE anon is aided.

goodnight
dors bien
etc

[Anonymous No.3912896]

>>3912892
Alright I'll send you something in the next day or so.

[Anonymous No.3912902]

>>3912896
It would be a pleasure to read it. Please do. I am no doubt less 'versed' than yourself but, as I stated, I would live to attempt a critical eye over any new works.

Volare mon frere

[Anonymous No.3912904]

>>3912902
love'

damn typos...
2300 minors pending haha

[Anonymous No.3912913]

n

[Anonymous No.3912920]

>>3912890
I wrote an elaborate 'well done; message

but 4chan seems to have lost it,,,,

...so...well done!

[Celebes !!NWFwVGUkpTc No.3912925]

>>3912589
Okay, think I'll bite.

When I get back to my computer I'll send some of my stuff