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3912131 No.3912131 [Reply] [Original]

So was he like a pedo or something?

>> No.3912134

Oh yes.
The way he writes about young girls. Not only in Lolita, but also in Invitation to a Beheading.
I quite sure he liked little girls.

>> No.3912137
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3912137

So was he like a paramilitar scalp hunter or something?

>> No.3912144
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3912144

So was he like an adulterous aristocratic woman or something?

>> No.3912148
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3912148

So was he like a hobbit or something?

>> No.3912149
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3912149

So was he like a robot or something?

>> No.3912151
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3912151

So was he like a bug or something?

>> No.3912153
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3912153

So was he like a far-right weirdo who killed himself because Japan didn't conform to his fantasies or something?

>> No.3912161

>>3912134
This. Only a man of experience could have written what he wrote. He most definitely met an underage prostitute and fucked her in a hotel.

>> No.3912163
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3912163

So was he like a rabbit or something?

>> No.3912164

>>3912148
This. Only a man of experience could have written what he wrote. He most definitely was a hobbit and went on an adventure.

>> No.3912185
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3912185

So was he posing as a somdomist or something?

>> No.3912213
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>>3912131
So was he a cat wearing a red and white striped hat or something?

>> No.3912219
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3912219

So was he like a cat or something?

>> No.3912226
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3912226

so he wasn't or something?

>> No.3912235
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3912235

So what he a fart lover or something?

>> No.3912244

>>3912185

>somdomist

Funniest shit in weeks.

>> No.3912246
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3912246

So did he consider little Polish boys the epitome of Beauty or something?

>> No.3912251

Did /lit/ get better in the last days or something?

>> No.3912262
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3912262

>>3912251
>last days

>> No.3912272
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3912272

So was he a lobster or something?

>> No.3912274
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3912274

>>3912272
*like a lobster

>> No.3912280

>>3912149
>not "christian"

>> No.3912317
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3912317

So was he like a jew or something?

>> No.3912330

I also remember him describing young boys in a really seemingly sexual way. Can't remember the book, may be the Gift

>> No.3912400
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3912400

So he was like a buildings roman or something?

>> No.3912410
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3912410

So was she like a sex worker or something?

>> No.3912417

>>3912410
>reading Dostoevsky
>selling your body for personal gain

plz pick one

>> No.3912450

>>3912417
have you read dostoevsky??

>> No.3912453

>>3912410
Hookers are always the good guys in his novels though.

>> No.3912463

>>3912410

she's such a qt

>> No.3912465

>>3912131
Yes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/nov/14/vladimir-nabokov-books-martin-amis

>> No.3912467

>>3912450
Sonia sells her body for the benefit of her family, not personal gain. To dostoevsky it is noble suffering. It's a sin, but it is permissible if the intentions are noble. Yes I read dostoevsky. Do you?

>> No.3912468

>>3912465
>Left to themselves, The Enchanter, Lolita, and Transparent Things might have formed a lustrous and utterly unnerving trilogy. But they are not left to themselves; by sheer weight of numbers, by sheer iteration, the nympholepsy novels begin to infect one another – they cross-contaminate. We gratefully take all we can from them; and yet . . . Where else in the canon do we find such wayward fixity? In the awful itch of Lawrence, maybe, or in the murky sexual transpositions of Proust? No: you would need to venture to the very fringes of literature – Lewis Carroll, William Burroughs, the Marquis de Sade – to find an equivalent emphasis: an emphasis on activities we rightly and eternally hold to be unforgivable.

>One commonsensical caveat persists, for all our literary-critical impartiality: writers like to write about the things they like to think about. And, to put it at its sternest, Nabokov's mind, during his last period, insufficiently honoured the innocence – insufficiently honoured the honour – of 12-year-old girls. In the three novels mentioned above he prepotently defends the emphasis; in Ada (that incontinent splurge), in Look at the Harlequins!, and now in The Original of Laura, he does not defend it. This leaves a faint but visible scar on the leviathan of his corpus

>> No.3912495

>>3912465
Look, I'm busy. I'm writing a script and I won't be disturbed. Except that because I'm writing about terrorism and Islam, I keep being distracted by Martin Amis. He prowls the thickets of my research like a demented flasher. Sometimes Christopher Hitchens pops up, too, and flashes along with his friend. They rail against Muslims. They're obviously daft. But people take them seriously.
No matter that they act like senile 12-year-olds on the Today programme website - smoking illegal fags to look tough and cool. No matter that Amis coins truly abominable terms like 'the age of horrorism' and when criticised tells people to 'fuck off'. Surely we all chuckle at the strenuous ennui of his salon drawl. Didn't he once accidentally sneer his face off? His 'insight' about Mohammed Atta involved pretending the hijacker was constipated for six months - brilliantly smuggling into our subconscious that idea that Atta was 'full of shit'. He abandoned his satire on terrorism in which a Muslim unleashes mass rape on America because 'faced with Islamism, even satire withers and dies', not because his idea was obviously rubbish.

Despite his manifest absurdity (he called the World Trade Centre attacks 'edificide' and the towers' destruction an 'apocollapse'), people take him seriously and if they do then we must.

Last week Amis was called a racist. I saw him speak at the ICA last month. Was his negativity about Islam technically racist? I don't know. What I can tell you is that Martin Amis is the new Abu Hamza.

To recap, Amis was called a racist because he said Muslims were backward, violent, homophobic, paranoid, boring, retarded and stupid. Hitchens said no, he's conducting a 'thought experiment'.

Now Amis should be allowed to wonder aloud about anything. He can suggest Muslims should 'experience painful discrimination until they get tough with their children' if he likes. Thought experiments are fine. But if he bundles his thoughts on Islam together and iterates them one after the other as he did when I saw him, he displays not unguarded musing but the forging of an incoherent creed of hate. It goes roughly like this: 9/11 was horrific, its driving ideology was totalitarian, the totalitarians were Muslims, all Muslims follow a book they believe to be the immutable word of God, I don't believe that, therefore all Muslims are idiots, and basically bastards. Idiot bastards moping around the Middle East in a paranoid funk just cos they lost their empire, and what a rubbish empire it was, too, by the way. Now, what is your balanced view of these primitive wife-beating idiotic bastards?

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>>3912495
>I'm writing a script and I won't be disturbed...

>> No.3912510

>>3912153
but... I... that's...

>> No.3912539

>>3912468
>guardian
>not jumping at the chance to spin the wheels of vacant hysteria over pedophilia at every opportunity cause is sells papers

that article is going to give me an ulcer, if someone in the British press goes more than five sentences without strongly and unequivocally denouncing pedophilia or suggesting that attraction teenagers isn't the worst most unnatural, abominable thing imaginable, they probably get put in the tower or at least strafed by those CCTV jobs

>activities we rightly and eternally hold to be unforgivable
> insufficiently honoured the innocence – insufficiently honoured the honour – of 12-year-old girls

lol, jesus christ, the groaping, rightious indignity here is ablmost cartoonish, and I'm not crazy about all those u's in honor either

>> No.3912564

>>3912495
Hey, buddy, you's dumb.

A- Martin Amis, with multiple TV appearances and in his book The Second Plane has explicitly stated that he is not against islam, he is against islamists. Please either learn to read or learn the difference. Did you know that criticizing the Jihadis, taliban, muslim brotherhood, al queda, &c is not the same as criticizing Islam?

B- Hitchens was against all religion, and his book is mainly focused on Christianity. He wanted the Iraq war to liberate the Iraqis, which are almost 100% islamic. Human rights for islamic people? No! (he may have been overly optimistic here, that's beside the point)

C- Last week Amis may have been called a racist but his islam statement, the one he immediately took back (' there is an inclination... to round them up, or something like this) was years ago. bub. Are you a copypasta?

D- >Full of shit
Nope
perhaps you are projecting?

E- find me the interview where Amis smokes.

F- you buddy... Fuck you. if you really are writing something on IslamiISM or terrorism or the WTC, you should read a shit ton more. You aren't grasping the nuance of the situation, at all. If you are going to make claims about what somebody said, please, next time, try and actually understand their point of view.

>> No.3912620
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So was he like a restless drunk who lived a transient lifestyle or something?

>> No.3912630

>>3912564
>last vestige of Maher-tier philosophers defending their brats to the last

I'm really glad these tools of Empire are vanishing into obscurity. Watching Christopher Hitchens provide a conceptual framework for American Imperialism that boiled down to Glenn Beck fear-mongering and outright racism was nauseating.

>> No.3912686

>>3912564
>are you a copypasta?
this is an article you could've easily looked up and I didn't want to bother putting it in greentext or quotation marks
I mean, if you want to talk about learning the difference between Islam and Islamists, look in the comments of the article it's from and see how much the readers respect that distinction. Go anywhere in England and see if the average person understands that distinction, for that matter.
speaking of copypasta, though, I particularly enjoy this
www.mrdestructo.com/2011/12/burn-in-hell-christopher-hitchens.html
>Hitchens was human trash, and his corpse should be interred in a grave worthy of his towering legacy, an eternally burning garbage fire, rising as high as a Baghdad sunrise, a smoky immolation of all the worthlessness that could be crammed in his "contrarian" paunch.

>Even this dream, of the phoenix never rising from the ashes, preserves that peasant’s megalomania more powerfully than any embalming fluids currently coursing through his veins. Formaldehyde's more potable than his lifeblood's cocktail of lies and booze, a tincture only the diseased imbibe. Hitchens was strictly for suckers, a mouse that roared, a VH1 I Love the 80s panelist with a fancy accent, a rap sheet and cirrhosis. "Rationalist," "skeptic," "contrarian," "public intellectual" — court jester. He plied that ancient trade for the deadliest predators on Earth; his was the reflexive, suck-up, kick-down cruelty of the British madding crowd. That’s all, folks.

anyway, all I meant to say was that Amis talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded

>> No.3912690
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3912690

So was he like a wolf or something?

>> No.3912694
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3912694

So was he like an Assyrian or something?

>> No.3912754
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3912754

So was he like Trout Fishing in America or something?

>> No.3912785
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3912785

So was he like a cannibal or something

>> No.3912854
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3912854

So was he like an Arab killer or something?

>> No.3912912
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3912912

So was he like a private detective or something?

>> No.3913062

>>3912686
>this is an article
>all I meant to say
First there was a distinction, then there was none!

>> No.3913476
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3913476

So was he like everything or something?

>> No.3913485
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3913485

so was he like lacon or somethingd

>> No.3913491

>>3912153
And that's why Mishima is the GOAT. He turned his whole life into a work of art.

>> No.3913497

All men are physically attracted to teenage girls. Age of consent laws are a feminist conspiracy.

>> No.3913516
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3913516

So was he like a cigar or something

>> No.3913518

>>3912400
Filename: 10/10

>> No.3913532

>>3913516
How phallic.

>> No.3913597
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3913597

So he was like a motherfucker or something?

>> No.3913602

>>3913497
This. Though it can be younger than just teenaged. 10+ is probably a good estimate.

>> No.3913660
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3913660

So she was a modern lady or something?

>> No.3913830

In Ada, not only does he write about incestuous pre-teen sex, but later on he writes about the wonderful gang ass rape of a young boy. He's fucking insane, just like Gogol and the fun and games Russian gang.