What do you all think of the Wheel Of Time series?? I've been meaning to take a peek into the fantasy genre again and I think this might be a good place to start. I loved the series by Rothfuss, though I know it's not very well received here. Recommendations welcome.

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Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:06:03 2013 No.3891580 [DELETED]

What do you all think of the Wheel Of Time series?? I've been meaning to take a peek into the fantasy genre again and I think this might be a good place to start.

I loved the series by Rothfuss, though I know it's not very well received here. Recommendations welcome.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:08:02 2013 No.3891585 everyone here hates it. the fantasy genre begins and ends with lord of the rings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:11:02 2013 No.3891593 it doesn't impress me with pretty words and therefore it's shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:16:02 2013 No.3891608 >>3891585 I think there are a few exceptions for LOTR being the end all be all, I haven't heard anyone bash The Last Unicorn around here.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:17:02 2013 No.3891612
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WoT is probably the best generic fantasy series published thus far.

There are more interesting series that tweak the genre quite a bit more, but generally if you liked Rothfuss you'll probably find Jordan palatable.

Other stuff to check out:
Mistborn (lighter, Rothfuss-y)
The Black Company (weirder, more charming)
The Malazan Book of the Fallen (more complex, more frustrating, more awesome shit)
Book of the New Sun (darker, more /lit/-approved)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:21:03 2013 No.3891632 >>3891612 OP here, Thanks for this-- Mistborn was a fun series that kept me occupied on a trip to Florida last summer. Will read the rest, thanks for educating the lesser informed, I appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:27:02 2013 No.3891652 first book is great then it goes on a long rambling downhill spiral forever

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 11:21:04 2013 No.3893872

I've got the whole collection ready to go, but idk, it just seems like a huge undertaking, 12 books or so and they are fairly thick. Whenever I finish my current book I look at them and never commit. instead I go for a standalone novel or something. Eh I just need to go for it.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 12:53:03 2013 No.3894043

The first book is really good, and if you skip the epilogue and maybe half the final chapter you can pretend it's stand-alone. The rest of the series is exciting enough if that's your sort of thing. Robert Jordan is no David Eddings or Steven Erikson, but he's fine.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 13:56:04 2013 No.3894126

I liked the series, the first 4-5 books are great, very notably the first being the best. Unfortunately then Jordon starts to paint his way into many drawn out corners and the plot advancement slows down very considerably and continuously, to the point where in the 10th book LITERALLY NOTHING HAPPENS AT ALL.

However, things do pick up after that and his last book is one of his best. Then, the transfer between authors happens. I see it as a new director taking over a film series I like, and he does it well. As much as I hate to say it, I'm actually kind of glad Jordon died when he did, as the new writer keeps the same feel of the books yet manages to go through with brilliant pacing unlike his predecessor, however I do find some of his combat scenes, especially the last battle, a little muddled and hard to follow, although perhaps that could be explained by me reading a digital copy and thus finding it inconvenient to flick through to the map very often.

I say go for it. It's nothing spectacular, but it's a worth reading as long as you can slog through the books that suffer worst of all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:02:03 2013 No.3894144 Malazan is overrated, don't listen to all the recommendations, its just the fantasy version of a popcorn-action flick with awesume cgi.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:18:03 2013 No.3894186
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I enjoyed it. The 1st half of the 1st book took me a while to get through, but then it really took off for me. I read the whole series in one continuous go so all the books where "nothing happens" didn't bother me at all (I actually liked all the subsubplots and characters)

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 15:27:03 2013 No.3894407

I quite enjoyed the series, myself. Though I wish the latter half kept the more traditional fantasy adventure aspects instead of going so political and stuff (although the epilogue of the final book hearkens back to it).

I agree with what you guys posted about Malazan and all those other series being great. I really enjoy the fantasy genre, even though it is bashed a lot on this board and professors and stuff.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 20:51:04 2013 No.3895400

>>3894144
The action scenes get slowed down and spread out considerably as the series progresses, just so you know. The later books are at least 400 pages of character building and philosophizing per 50 pages of battle scenes.

You are revealing your own ignorance. I am going to guess you either never read the series, or half-assed your way through Gardens of the Moon.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:19:05 2013 No.3895578
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>>3891580
OP everything highlighted has been recommended to me by /lit/ over the past few years.
You can try your hands at the regular ones but..... some are pure garbage and some are YA so... you know morals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:22:05 2013 No.3895582 ITT soap operas with dragons

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:22:05 2013 No.3895583 >>3893872 I know that feel. I had them all given to me a few years ago and they sit on my shelf collecting dust. I'm pretty sure there are maybe two or three newer ones I don't even have yet..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:55:05 2013 No.3895651 >>3895582 Not every fantasy has dragon or elves in it Jesus Christ, please go back to your DFW threads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 04:20:04 2013 No.3896265 >>3895651 nah, he's just a soap opera without dragons

Anonymous Sun Jun 30 04:26:04 2013 No.3896276

i'm just starting on the third book. the series a very interesting read so far, but it's saddening to see everyone agree that it slows to a crawl after the first half of it. i was hoping for the whole series to be as fun as what i've read so far but i guess that would be too much to ask.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 11:54:04 2013 No.3896985 >>3896276 It becomes too broad in scope and loses a lot of the adventure-y feeling, instead opting to have a billion chapters of females and female politics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 15:40:05 2013 No.3897621 File: 469 KB, 1950x1189, dune.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Frank Herbert's Dune.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 15:55:05 2013 No.3897674 >>3897621 Only up to the death of The Emperor. It should have ended there. After that it became a sci-fi fetish fest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 08:05:06 2013 No.3899828 >>3894186 Does it lose that feminism undertone? I couldn't go on because of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 08:23:07 2013 No.3899868 >>3899828 Nope, arguably gets worse.

Anonymous Mon Jul 1 09:42:06 2013 No.3900102
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>>3891580

The Wheel of Time isn't much like the Kingkiller Chronicles at all.

I think The Broken Empire series would be a better recommendation, if you love the Kingkiller Chronicles then you'll undoubtedly enjoy this series as well.

Book two is also a major improvement over book one, so unless you can find no enjoyment in book one whatsoever I'd advise you to continue reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 15:46:06 2013 No.3900753 im currently on book 9 of the series ive been reading it fairly steadily for the past few months, and im honestly just ready for it to end, although i will finish it. sidenote i dislike the main character, really like the supporting characters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:51:06 2013 No.3901359 >>3900102 Book 3 is out.....?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 04:14:08 2013 No.3902332 >>3901359 No, next month or otherwise the month after that. King of Thorns had varying release dates as well, depending on your country of residence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:04:07 2013 No.3902388 Id read it if I didnt have to pay for the books, just get a digital version and be impressed if you make it throught it its really not worth paying for its just not that great you would be better off with erikson, gemmel, feist etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 10:38:07 2013 No.3902894 I hope you enjoy unlikable female characters, OP. If not, do yourself a favor and move on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 10:50:07 2013 No.3902914 Min is best girl.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 11:27:07 2013 No.3903030 >>3902914 yeah, she is the most interestng character

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 16:52:07 2013 No.3903653

I personally loved it. Was very long, but each book takes place over the course of 2-4 months. Very large story to tell. Most people are negative about it, it seems because they want a cut and dried story in 300 pages, and are easily bored if longer. Try the first one, and if you don't like it, don't continue. But after you're done, realize that there are thirteen more books each as long, but each one pushes Rand farther along his destiny, and he gets a little stronger and the scale of battle gets a little larger, until you're in 12 and the whole continent is rent by war.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 10:02:08 2013 No.3906029 >>3902914 >implying Jordan could write women.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 10:04:07 2013 No.3906034 >>3906029 don't you like braids being tugged in every paragraph?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 10:38:15 2013 No.3906089 >>3902914 I am hard-pressed to think of any good female characters aside from Birgitte. Min may be a non-bitch, but she's one-dimensional and she's basically written to be the MC's pet girl.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 21:21:34 2013 No.3907421 >>3902332 That wouldn't matter to me because the same day that it is released my pirate brethren would have secured it for me.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 02:32:33 2013 No.3908081

>>3907421

Do you dislike Mark Lawrence that much? Cut the guy some slack, he's not that popular and the book, whilst not a masterpiece by any means, is very enjoyable to read.

Besides, he said Emperor of Thorns would be his best book yet. Since KoT > PoT by a landslide I'm inclined to believe him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 04:26:33 2013 No.3908189 >>3906034 I think you mean skirts straightened. I am quite surprised Jordan was married though. He had some serious issue with seeing every woman as a sneaky, conniving, walking-manipulation machine.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 09:10:33 2013 No.3908496

>>3908081
If i could i would buy his book I read audiobooks but they are not sold here.
The whole reason i started "reading" audiobooks was because the local bookstores didn't stock the books i wanted and back then shipping and buying online would have cost me an arm and a leg that i didn't have was an unemployed school kid .

Now fast foward years later i have cash but no credit cards and shipping would still be an arm and a leg .... and i've been doing this so long that its second nature.

Hexer !NHpYSS45yU Thu Jul 4 10:29:33 2013 No.3908604

>>3908189
>He had some serious issue with seeing every woman as a sneaky, conniving, walking-manipulation machine.
Dunno, 99% of the women in the story are bred for that by their respective organization.

>>3906089
>Min may be a non-bitch, but she's one-dimensional and she's basically written to be the MC's pet girl.
I daresay she's very much what /a/nons would call a moeblob. A codependent, ineffective female whose main role is being someone's arm candy and looking cute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 10:38:33 2013 No.3908627 First book is a shit, really obvious LOTR rip-off, but the next 2-5ish are pretty good. Then the plot stops and you drop it around book 8.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 10:43:33 2013 No.3908636 >>3894144 >>3895400 The Malazan books were really hit and miss for me. I read the first 4. There's some incredibly cool sequences in there but 60% of it is a slog. I think that setting would make a better video game setting to be honest.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 10:52:33 2013 No.3908654

>>3908636
If you didn't like the "slog" parts of Malazan, you'd have hated book 5.

Ian Cameron Esslemont's companion series, which picks up a lot of the plot threads Erikson throws off, is much more action-oriented. If you enjoy enormous battle scenes, set in the same universe, you should give it a shot. It's actually a damn good series, although you should be warned that his first novel unfortunately is somewhat weak.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 10:55:34 2013 No.3908662 >>3908654 I'm actually more interested in the novellas of those two crazy fucks and their butler. Have you read those?

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 11:02:33 2013 No.3908680

>>3908662
Yes, I have.

If you enjoyed them in Memories of Ice you'll likely find the novellas alright. They're written in a more humorous fashion than the main series. Sort of like Erikson's take on Discworld-style writing. I find them mildly endearing, but opinion among Erikson's readership seems divided (likely due to people expecting something more like his other novels).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 12:08:33 2013 No.3908794 >>3895578 >anita blake please leave and never come back

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:41:34 2013 No.3909974

>>3900753
Just finished reading the last book of WoT right now. Here's my take on the likability of the three main characters.

Rand: 1-3 he's likable, 4-6 he's kind of boring but relatable, 7- part of 11 holy fuck he's the worst character, end of 11-14 he's cool.

Perrin: 1-4 who is Perrin?, 5-10 at least he's better than Rand, 11-14 dude is pretty cool.

Mat: 1-2 whiny bitch, 3-14 FUCK YEAH BEST CHARACTER EVER

>>3899828
>>3899868
I think it only gets worse because later on you start reading from the viewpoints of individual Aes Sedai. In the first 2 books, they are mysterious and seem to present a united front, but from book 3 to 14 you're stuck with each aes sedai being a whiny know-it-all cunt who only exist to fuck around politicking.

Just keep in mind when you read that unless it's the three main male characters, their women, Egwene, or Nynaeve, any character has a 40% chance of being a darkfriend.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 21:23:38 2013 No.3910030 [DELETED]

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>>3908627

My first read through of the series I stopped after book nine.

>>3900753
> im honestly just ready for it to end

I felt that way after getting to book 10, but then by the time I finished A Memory of Light, I really wanted the story to keep going.

And yes, Birgitte is best girl.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 21:33:34 2013 No.3910041 Avoid it. It started off good, but so many of the middle books are so awful that I don't think it's worth trying to push through them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 21:52:34 2013 No.3910077 File: 71 KB, 640x684, mfw_reading_wheel_of_time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Prepare to be frustrated beyond all belief if you pick up this series. Pic related, my thoughts while reading this entire fucking series

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 00:02:34 2013 No.3910280 >>3891612 >The Black Company (weirder, more charming) Define weirder. Weird monsters, or weird people?

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 00:25:35 2013 No.3910362

>>3910280
Weird narration is the big one. Each book is narrated as a written chronicle of events by one of the characters (with said character heavily coloring how events are portrayed based on his personality--rewriting events, misremembering, feelings influencing stuff).

The other weird bit is some of the monsters, to use your word. Sentient stones and flying whales are heavily featured in one of the books (though dropped directly after). Later novels mostly draw from Hindu mythology.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 09:54:35 2013 No.3911182
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>>3908794
The Anita Blake series is or should i say was a great series... It had world depth, good use of powers and ability and a great wildlife(it was like they lived in a realm where magic was real and the animals could be explained).
Then.... idk wtf happened, she was this born again virgin after her fiance dumped her because /pol/ didn't like her[ no lie the mother was a racist and because Anita's hair was a curly brunette and her eyes not blue she threaten to cut off her son financially if he didn't dump Anita.], then... idk all of a sudden she goes and passes up the vag to the vampire... then hair texture is repeated like 50 times thenceforth in every reoccurring book .....

My thoughts are that Anita's Author was a ghost writer, then Laurell took over and didn't know that there are things called proof readers.... the repetition.. and utter nonsense...

Her 23rd or 22nd book came out a few days ago i saw that a bunch of people had given it 5 stars and the book wasn't even out yet.... The book is like 50 Shades of Graves(get it vampires)

What is /lit/'s thoughts? Writers that milk shit for all that its worth.
She doesn't proof read, she describes hair and feel over 50 times in each book, her plot is non existent, bunch of sex where it is not needed, sex in general, deleting people off like forums(like apple does) when anyone says anything slightly negative e.g "Why is sex the main plot for the recent books", if you say anything negative at all or says that some parts in the book makes no sense(again no proof reader) she says that you are attacking her and her minions swarm.

Anita Blake FUCKING DROPPED.

You guys have any books that started off good but turned into idk wtf happened?
Do you know of any popular writer that started the series with a ghost writer then had to continue it themselves?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 10:09:36 2013 No.3911210 >>3911182 >Anita Blake FUCKING DROPPED. WOB WOOB WOBWOB WOBB

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 10:54:35 2013 No.3911276 >>3909974 >dat spoiler I lol'd heartily. So true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 11:11:35 2013 No.3911292 >>3911182 Thread related Malazan and Discworld and Wheel Of Time. They all started off nice then went wtf.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 11:11:35 2013 No.3911293

I started reading WoT late in high school or early in college and I think I dropped it around book 4 or 5. Book 1 is fucking fantastic and draws you in, but Jordan's writing can be so goddamn annoying sometimes, and it only gets worse as the series progresses. One day I might try to read through it again, now that I've let half a decade pass since my last attempt.

My advice, OP? Read The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson (the guy who took over WoT when Jordan kicked the bucket). I'm reading through the first novel right now, and I am really enjoying it. As I reach the last ~250-300 pages or so, I'm getting the feeling that all the major characters are suffering from special snowflake syndrome. Then again, if you like Rothfuss (as I do) than you can handle special snowflakes. I'm half expecting the book to end with most of the POV characters getting killed, because I don't know how Sanderson can write a series with so many characters that have supernatural abilities, particularly prophets. Also, Sanderson can't write women for shit either, despite constantly bashing Jordan for sucking too. The not a LotR knockoff setting makes it worth a read alone. Really cool worldbuilding.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 11:25:35 2013 No.3911322

>>3911293
Way of Kings is Probably the best new fantasy book I've read in a long time.

I'd recommend reading WoT through, though. It might be blasphemous to say, but I think the series picked back up after Sanderson took over. Towards the end of Jordan's writing it seem... I dunno, dull? Flat? The characters just came across as lifeless to me sometimes. I think Sanderson breathed some life into it all when he took over.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 11:46:35 2013 No.3911360 I remember when I read this bullshit when I was little and my brain always read darkfriend as darkfiend (because it's way fucking better). Then I heard someone say darkfriend, I was just like wat. Darkfriend sounds so homo compared to darkfiend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 11:47:35 2013 No.3911364 >>3911360 Also, the books take place over 2 years. All of them. Such garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 12:09:35 2013 No.3911403 >>3910280 >>3910362 Also, weird "power levels", if you may. The wizards are basically nearly unkillable demi-gods, but somehow they don't do all that much wonderous shit directly, most of the time, and in battle generally seem rather weak.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 12:17:36 2013 No.3911411
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As this seems like more or less a fantasy general, I'll ask this here:

Does The First Law trilogy get more "high" fantasy in the later books? Of course, there's a lot of high fantasy stuff here and there in The Blade Itself, but most of this is just history by the time the story takes place.
I'm not a great fan of high fantasy, if it doesn't either gets so ridiculously over the top you don't need any explanations or whatever, or in comical novels. Yeah, it's magic and they aren't gonna explain shit, but I think it would be nice if magic would be consistent in it's own universe, as it basically replaces (and exceeds) what science does usually.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 15:50:35 2013 No.3911699 >>3911322 Sanderson's pacing was a lot better than Jordan's. I'm also reading The Way of Kings, loving it so far.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 16:03:35 2013 No.3911725

>orphan child with cool hair is destined to be the Chosen One who will defeat the Dark Lord who wants to destroy the world because reasons

It's utter garbage.

Anyone who recommends this filth should be imprisoned and forcefully educated for a period of 5 years minimum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 11:13:35 2013 No.3913517 >>3911293 Here, I just finished The Way of Kings. Fucking fabulous ending. I was pleased as fuck and now I can't wait for Words of Radiance. Apparently Sanderson just submitted the first draft like 5 days ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 16:09:35 2013 No.3914047 File: 12 KB, 560x407, 2d4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to read it just to protest the GoT bandwagon, and the Kingslayer series seems too new or amateurish. Even though I read under 20 pages of each.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 20:15:35 2013 No.3914603 >>3914047 >20 pages >They're shit! I read four books of WoT before I decided it was shit. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 20:23:35 2013 No.3914628 I just want Gendal to compulsionize me and make me do dirty things to Moghediens body.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 20:30:35 2013 No.3914639

It's kind of a shame that people let the weaker books in this series ruin it for them. Sanderson really rescued it from Jordan's bad habits. The last book has some of Sanderson's bad habits but to be fair, it's the fucking Last Battle. You try writing that shit. It looked like the scale needed because of all the buildup of the other books had to be so massive it'd be hard to pull it off. Yet largely, Sanderson does.

The end of the book has the best of Jordan's final touches because that was probably almost complete before he died.

I almost liked the female characters after Sanderson took over. By the way, making me like Elayne and Nynaeve would be an achievement. A big one.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 20:32:36 2013 No.3914642

>>3909974
Good assessment, I agree with you entirely. Although without the whole ta'veren wankery I think Mat would've been much less likable. Imagine if he suddenly ran out of luck with dice.

>>3914628
>Jordan's exact reason for creating these characters
GJ

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 20:37:36 2013 No.3914649

Unless you don't mind a generic plot and tedious descriptions of clothes, you won't like it. Even Rothfuss' books are considerably better than WoT. As a kid, I liked The Riftwar Saga by Raymond E. Feist. It's been a while since I've read, but I'm sure I'd still prefer that to WoT. I suggest you read Roger Zelazny's Amber Chronicles, The Last Unicorn (one of the great fantasy classics), and Scott Lynch's The Lies of Locke Lamora.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 23:11:35 2013 No.3914892 >>3911411 No, in fact it gets less "high fantasy" in the standalone novels that follow the First Law trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 23:20:17 2013 No.3914906 >>3911725 >harry potter.jpg No one recommended that book as far as i could tell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 09:47:35 2013 No.3915825 >>3914649 >The Last Unicorn (one of the great fantasy classics), and Scott Lynch's The Lies of Locke Lamora. I can second this. These books are a lot of fun.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 17:10:36 2013 No.3916810

>>3911360
Dude, I read this series at 28 and read through 7 books thinking it was darkfiend. Only once did I stop and go, "holy shit, Jordan wrote darkfriend and I've been internalizing it as darkfiend this whole time"

I thought it was so lame I almost threw the book bit I was on a train and realized I managed to get this far with all the spanking and PG bullshit I may as well not give up on that bombshell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 17:14:36 2013 No.3916821 >>3914649 >>3915825 >Scott Lynch's The Lies of Locke Lamora I agree, it's an incredible book. I'd highly recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 7 18:06:35 2013 No.3916957 >>3916821 I hear everyone telling me this, but I gave up about a third in, because the book was so damn... dull.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 21:18:36 2013 No.3917479

>>3911360
>>3916810

I know that feel, guys. I read through 4 books before realizing it was Darkfriend, and only then because I gave the audiobook of book 1 a listen. I remember thinking "that can't be right!" and going to grab my copy, only to discover I'd been reading it wrong that whole time.

Anonymous Sun Jul 7 21:27:36 2013 No.3917507

Also goddammit, this thread has made me itch to try to get through the series again. Maybe I'll just stop after Eye of the World, or maybe I'll stop a few books in like last time. But I love Brandon Sanderson's writing, so I might try to stick it out to the end.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 11:29:36 2013 No.3918841 >>3914906 I was talking about WoT

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 11:41:36 2013 No.3918857

>>3902388
>>3908654
>>3908680
>>3894407

HAIL THE MARINES!

That one sentence in DoD gave me shivers down my spine and brought a tear to my eye. No other series has to this day. I love the entire series, but goddamn, the situation surrounding that quote, Erikson is a master of his craft.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 12:20:36 2013 No.3918913 >>3911292 >Discworld Discworld was a fine evolution until the latest few books though. Particularly the most recent one was just WTF-tiers of "Pratchett's alzheimers has definitely got the best of him now". And how fucking depressing it was too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 12:43:37 2013 No.3918955 >>3891608 Fuckin love The Last Unicorn. Not the most complex story, but delicious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 16:47:37 2013 No.3919634 >>3918841 So did J.k. Rowling steal from the WoT series too? >>3916821 Have you read that gay fantasy? Some steel edge or something, but the protagonist is gay... will i feel gay if i read it? Does it have gay smex?

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 17:23:37 2013 No.3919717

>>3919634
>Have you read that gay fantasy? Some steel edge or something, but the protagonist is gay... will i feel gay if i read it? Does it have gay smex?

They say it has graphic homosex. I flipped through it in the bookstore trying to find it, but all I found was GRRM-esque dialogue. (Take that as you will)

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 17:29:37 2013 No.3919727

>>3891580
I pocked up the first book in the series, finished it, didn't read any more. It felt a bit too cliched, too recycled. Too many stock characters and too much like yet another LOTR imitator. Then again, a lot of fantasy is like that so perhaps it's not bad for its genre; I've heard other people praise it. It'll certainly keep you occupied for a long time.

It's also full of sexism, if that sort of thing bothers you. Which it should, bastard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 18:09:37 2013 No.3919790 >>3918806 I love Rand's "Whaat the SHIT is this" face.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 18:18:37 2013 No.3919808 >>3911411 There is a bit more magic, but I wouldn't say it gets more high fantasy, no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 19:06:38 2013 No.3919933 >>3919717 >but all I found was GRRM-esque dialogue. >shagga.jpg

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 19:13:37 2013 No.3919939

I started reading The Eye of the World a couple of weeks ago when I finished ADWD and wanted some more fantasy in my life. It took awhile to get going and now it's "Fuck yeah adventure" every couple of pages. I'm liking it so far, but now I'm a little disappointed that apparently the whole series doesn't keep it up.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 19:15:37 2013 No.3919941

>>3919727
>I am female
You exposed yourself so openly.

What is sexism?
When someone writes a story it must confer to your way of thing?
>a woman's battlefield is in the birth room
SEXIST
>the battlefield is no place for a woman
WE CAN DO ANYTHING YOU CAN

Its a bloody story, the guy can write what the hell he wants. I don't see you up in the Vladimir Nabokov or Marquis De Sade threads calling them a filthy pedoist or crying pedoism. No you praise their prose and want to make their babiehs.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 19:20:37 2013 No.3919950

>>3919808
That book was a rip off.
It was good yes but so little magic, and how it was done has you questioning magic on the whole.
I read two of the three follow up books he did.... i BARELY got a drop of magic in both. It was mostly swords, gun powder, buying the other side with gold and little to no magic.

FUCKING DROPPED
needs more other side

I do not kneel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 04:15:53 2013 No.3921225 >>3919634 The Steel Remains by Richard Morgan. It's pretty good, there's only a couple of short gay sex parts that you can skip past pretty easily. Probably a 7/10 series, his sci-fi stuff is better to be honest.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 04:39:37 2013 No.3921235

I'm currently on the 2nd Sanderson Book, and I have to admit I'm impressed. I expected a much larger change in writing style when he took over.

The only real difference I can see is that he doesn't go into the excellently / painfully detailed setting and character introductions that Jordan did. Quite impressed he has maintained the feel of it so well.

That all said, I'm sort of disappointed with the plot. NO ONE HAS DIED? Fuck those minor characters. I wanted to see at least 1 of the larger characters to actually die before the last book and I didn't believe for a second Moraine was dead or not returning after conveniently falling through a portal. The only one so far that at any point was a large character was Verin, and she became irrelevant 7 books ago. I'm sure that will all change pretty soon though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 04:48:37 2013 No.3921239 >>3921225 I didnt even realise it was before i read it is honestly still a good book

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 05:03:37 2013 No.3921242 >but the protagonist is gay... will i feel gay if i read it? Does it have gay smex? >a couple of short gay sex parts that you can skip past pretty easily prudish sexually-insecure murricans, what the hell is wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 05:06:37 2013 No.3921243 >>3921242 Let's not turn this into a gay debate.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 05:12:37 2013 No.3921244

>>3919939
>I'm a little disappointed that apparently the whole series doesn't keep it up.
>apparently

its just other peoples opinions. just continue as long as its fun.
many people also think that AFfC and ADwD was shit compared to the other books, which I heartily disagree with.
I have read three books so far in the series and they we're all good, though I liked the second the best so far. will start reading the fourth tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:59:37 2013 No.3922100 A friend of mine is raving about this series, I've only read the first volume and it's a massive pile of shit that could have been reduced to 200 pages or so. It's so fucking SLOOOW.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 14:13:37 2013 No.3922124 >>3900102 Just started PoT, seems very 2edgy4u so far

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 22:01:38 2013 No.3923148 >>3921242 I am not an Americlap. I am from South America. Why would i want to read about men stuffing each other's asses? >lel

Anonymous Wed Jul 10 00:08:38 2013 No.3923414
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A Memory of Light

The Shadow Rising

Lord of Chaos

Fires of Heaven

Winters Heart

The Dragon Reborn

The Gathering Storm

Eye of the World

Knife of Dreams

Crown of Swords

Towers Of Midnight

The Path of Daggers

Crossroads of Twilight

That's my rating list of the books. I read them all back to back, and I kinda just powerread through them all because I just wanted to know what will happen next. I will say RJ was good at foreshadowing stuff that would make sense like 5 books later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 00:26:37 2013 No.3923445 >>3923414 Are those the Stark and Dragon banners? What is that hand/fist. Is the guys under the wolf banner suppose to be Robert?(war hammer) Is that lightbringer in the dragon lord's hand?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 06:35:38 2013 No.3924083 >>3923445 Or maybe it's not based on ASoIaF. Doofus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:11:37 2013 No.3924501 >>3923414 You forgot The Great Hunt. I just finished book 5, but this looks the same as how I would rank them so far. If The Great Hunt was under Eye of the World

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 11:12:37 2013 No.3924503 File: 244 KB, 1215x1000, 1364768918599.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We can all agree mat is the best character right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:54:38 2013 No.3925176 >>3923414 This, mostly, but I'd personally put The Dragon Reborn a little higher up on the list.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 15:58:37 2013 No.3925190 >>3924503 No. Aviendha for sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 10 19:26:38 2013 No.3925724 >>3924083 >Doofus Meanie

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 03:48:37 2013 No.3926863
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>>3924501
>You forgot The Great Hunt.
I did and I didn't, I had it placed between Eye and Gathering but changed my mind and cut it, and I guess I forgot to paste it between Winter and Dragon Reborn

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 04:03:38 2013 No.3926882

>>3924503
I can agree with that.

Rand was way too up and down for me to decide if I liked him or not. Perrin started to pick up about half way through but was a bit of a whiny bitch for too long. Ewgene picked up about half way through when it stopped being just idol gossip the whole time. Aviendha was probably top of the trio.

Galad/Gawyn though I hated with a passion. Most of the Aes Sedai were annoying and manipulative, but most of all I hated Cadsune. I feel that was by design though.

But yes. I can agree Mat was best. Got sick of reading all the blood and bloody ashes though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 04:07:37 2013 No.3926884 Does the Mistborn series suffer from the special snowflake syndrome? What about Malazan series?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 04:10:49 2013 No.3926887 >>3926884 I can answer for Malazan if you provide a definition of "special snowflake."

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:03:35 2013 No.3927176

>>3926887
He means Mary Sue. At least that is what i think he means

>>3926884
The girl in Mistborn was probably a special snowflake.... then it was shown that anyone could be a special snow flake, so the point is moot.

Malazan i only read 3 books, i don't know if there is a special snow flake in there Jaghut wants to kill ppl blah blah blah.

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 08:08:37 2013 No.3927186

>>3927176
>>3926884

I've read most of the Malazan books (and spin-offs).

No real Mary Sues. Anyone with a semblance of power is generally pretty flawed. The only two exceptions are probably Rake and Karsa. They're far from perfect, but they are maybe a little too xXawesomeXx.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 12:37:38 2013 No.3927676 File: 58 KB, 640x457, 1370376335560.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was it rape?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 12:50:37 2013 No.3927696 File: 76 KB, 500x647, cat crosses the courtyard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3927676 For any of them? Hells no, the Rand knows what the ladies like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 13:07:37 2013 No.3927713 best fantasy novel I've read was The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson. Check it out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 15:40:56 2013 No.3928008 >>3927713 I just finished the Way of Kings a few days ago and loved it. Can't wait for Words of Radiance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:02:56 2013 No.3928058 >>3921235 You think all those mother fuckers gonna make it through the last battle? Sanderson pulls a GRR Martin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:03:56 2013 No.3928061 >>3923414 Personally, Shadow Rising is my favorite and Dragon reborn shortly after, but mostly because the Aiel are so fucking awesome. Winters Heart sucks except for the last 3 chapters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:04:56 2013 No.3928062 >>3927176 >>3926887 >>3927186 Thanks, I guess I'll read them both eventually.

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 16:10:56 2013 No.3928075

>>3924503
Definitely. Mat is the only major character that never had a shitty moment. Tuon is also an amazing character.

Rand sucked when he was going through the "i have to become hard" phase, but became awesome in Memory of Light

Perrin was shit when Faile was captured by the Shaido Aiel.

All the women sucked in the first half of the series

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 17:50:56 2013 No.3928308 File: 245 KB, 350x350, 1370833044902.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Official WOT Women I would bang power ranking 1. Aviendha 2. Nynaeve 3. Lanfear 4. Min 5. Elayne 6. Faile 7. Siuan 8. Moirane ... 9001. Egwene if her mouth is ducktaped

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 18:19:56 2013 No.3928359
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Sweet, fantasy thread. Now it's time to ask you guys for my shitty pleb requests.

WoW:
Vol'jin - Shadows of the Horde
Graphic novel - Bloodsworn
Dawn of the Aspects (All of them)

Mostly Vol'jin, but any would be greatly appreciated. I'm pretty sure those are the only things I need to complete the entire WoW novel and comic series' thus far.

P-please and t-thank you.
(I have checked on every torrent site and #bookz and shit for these.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 11 21:49:56 2013 No.3928908 >>3928308 >1. Grandal >2. Berelain >3. Aviendha >4. Nynaeve >5. Lanfear >6. Moghedien >7. Min >8. Riselle >9. Elayne >10. Siuan >11. Moirane >... >9001. Egwene if her mouth is ducktaped there we go

Anonymous Thu Jul 11 22:09:56 2013 No.3928972
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>>3928075
>Perrin was shit when Faile was captured by the Shaido Aiel.

Perrin was a huge fucking letdown for the entire series. I thought he'd get over the whole "I'm a monster" thing by book 2 and then shit would get real, but nooo. Wolf complex for 10 books and then a bit of dream teleporting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 04:48:56 2013 No.3929732 >>3928972 That and the fact he decided about 6 times that he would be a leader. The annoying fucker couldn't just stick with it and would forget a book later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 05:04:56 2013 No.3929749 >>3928359 >WoW books That's almost as plebeian as Halo ...are they any good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 05:06:56 2013 No.3929751 >>3929749 I've read two of the earlier ones: Lord of the Clans and Day of the Dragon. ...Nah, they were fucking awful. Fan fiction-tier writing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 05:15:56 2013 No.3929758 >>3928359 >asking about vidya tie-in books on /lit/ Holy shit you're brave. Pretty sure even /tg/ would give you a hard time for this.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 06:56:56 2013 No.3929890

Robin Hobb, the farseer trilogy got me so hooked, the relationship between fitz and nighteyes is the ultimate bromance.

I read up to book 5 of wheel of time, it was slow, and I was kinda pissed of they fucking didn't even mention Perrin in the 5th book, Jordan can be amazing at times with his descriptions and imagery, especially the when he starts getting into the dark, brutal aspects of his story telling.

But check out The assassins apprentice by Robin Hobb, you won't be disappointed

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 08:23:56 2013 No.3930012

>>3929749
They're not always well-written, but they're pretty neat from a pleb's point of view (myself).
>>3929751
Basically what he said, but I'm just interested enough in the universe that I'll read them.

>>3929758
I knew I'd get shit for it, but as someone that enjoys something, even if it's considered by many to be shit, I'd like to try everywhere just in case there's someone else with the same guilty pleasure.

(I also found "Dawn of the Aspects" and "Vol'jin" earlier, so I just need "Bloodsworn" and "Shadow Wing: Nexus Point" to have the complete collection. But those two are more comics than novels, so I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant to ask here.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 08:31:56 2013 No.3930035 File: 1.16 MB, 1811x2762, BLOOD-SONG-FINAL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've heard nothing but praise for this book.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 09:27:56 2013 No.3930130

>>3929890
I like Hobb, especially her first two trilogies, although I read them when I was a bit of a noob to fantasy lit (it was the second series I read, after LOTR).

Not sure how they'd stand up today. I know her Fat Boy trilogy was shit and the recent Rain Wilds books have been mediocre, but I can never be sure if she's gotten worse or if I'm just more well read now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:51:56 2013 No.3930425 >>3930035 What is it about? Just swords and muh honor more like honour of thieves he looks like prince of Persia Or is there magic?

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 11:56:56 2013 No.3930432

>>3930035
Book Description
================
>From "a new master storyteller" comes the beginning of an epic fantasy
saga of blood, honor, and destiny...

>"The Sixth Order wields the sword of justice and smites the enemies
of the Faith and the Realm."

>Vaelin Al Sorna was only a child of ten when his father left him at
the iron gate of the Sixth Order. The Brothers of the Sixth Order are
devoted to battle, and Vaelin will be trained and hardened to the austere,
celibate, and dangerous life of a Warrior of the Faith. He has no family
now save the Order.

>Vaelin's father was Battle Lord of the Empire of King Janus. Vaelin's
rage at being deprived of his birthright and dropped at the doorstep
of the Sixth Order like a foundling knows no bounds. He has little memory
of his mother, and what he will come to learn of her at the Order will
confound him. His father, too, has motives that Vaelin will come to
understand. But one truth overpowers all the rest: Vaelin Al Sorna is
destined for a future he has yet to comprehend. A future that will alter
not only the Empire, but the world.

Looks like sword and muh honor is there any magic? Or special abilities?
If yes explain its in my bookmarks, if your answer is sufficient i will download it immediately.

Anonymous Fri Jul 12 14:46:56 2013 No.3930977
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I really love anything by David Eddings, particularly The Belgariad series. His plots are extremely generic and predictable (muh prophecies), but his descriptions, characters, and especially is dialog is top fucking notch. Characters feel like they're real people. If you can deal with a plot based on silly prophecies, definitely check out The Belgariad.

The Demon Cycle books by Peter V Brett are pretty good too, has an interesting concept for fantasy.

I'm about to start Wheel of Time myself just to see what all the fuss is about.

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