/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.3879811]

/lit/, what do you think of cursive? Does it have a place in 2013? I've heard that many elementary school students are not being taught cursive. Is that good or bad?

[Anonymous No.3879819]

cursive sucks fat dick its fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.3879822]

>>3879811
HOLY SHIT IT'S BAD AND DID YOU KNOW THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT BEING TAUGHT THE BIBLE

CLOSING OF THE AMERICAN MIND

[Anonymous No.3879847]

>>3879811
Cursive is shit but I think we should work a little harder to have people not write like Parkinson patients.

[Anonymous No.3879859]

>>3879847
>tfw to embarrassed bymy handwriting to write in public unless I have to

[Anonymous No.3879862]

i like cursive.

[Anonymous No.3879879]

Fuck cursive. Whats the point in writing if no one can read it?

[Anonymous No.3879922]

>>3879859
It's not like its hard to learn how to write nice.

[Anonymous No.3879925]

>>3879811
Cursive looks better and you write faster? Why shouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.3879931]

I write in cursive

[Anonymous No.3879936]

>>3879922
how do you learn to write nice?

[Anonymous No.3879952]

>>3879936
Look at nice hand writing and copy it, or figure out how you want your letter to look yourself.
Start slow, paying attention to the fine details and getting it correct every time, write the same letter in the typeface you want over and over until you can do it quickly, then just force yourself to use it in normal day to day writing.

I used to have shit handwriting and after putting any form of effort into improving it it looks much better.

[Anonymous No.3879994]

I think the entire debate about cursive is absurd. It would be about as much a problem if cursive died as if adding a little curve to the bottom of the lower-case "t" died. It reeks of ancient snobbery, and this is coming from someone who's used cursive since he was seven. It's just a way to write, and what matters most is how quickly it can be written and that it's legible.

[Anonymous No.3880003]

>>3879811
always disliked the

-lower case b
-upper case D
-upper case E
-both case f
-upper case G
-upper case H
-upper case Q
the difference between
-lower case u and
-lower case v

worst fucking offender
-lower case r

[Anonymous No.3880007]

>>3880003
for alternatives, i've always preferred "script" writing of early america

Jefferson had classy writing despite being a maximum cultural marxist / beta

[Anonymous No.3880013]

I get complimented on my handwriting all the time, and I haven't written in cursive since the 4rth grade.

[Anonymous No.3880014]

>>3880003
>-both case f
Seriously? Lower case f is one of the most beautiful cursive letters, not to mention extremely enjoyable to write.

[Anonymous No.3880019]

>>3880014
This. I used to go out of my way to write F's, L's and Z's.

[Anonymous No.3880026]

>born and raised in Europe
>move to Canada at 18

>'yo what the fuck is that cursive? wooow'

I didn't even know cursive was a thing. Like, that you had a name for it, it's just regular writing. Everybody learns to write in cursive where I'm from. I never thought you could learn to write in any other way. People just develop their habits as they grow older and may use a mix between cursive and print. Everybody knows print as well because that's how books who teach us how to write are written. I remember in pre-school I had a school book that had a page dedicated to each letter and there were a few lines at the end for us to practice. How do you learn to write if not in cursive?

[Anonymous No.3880061]

>>3880007
germans and french have great writing as well

[Anonymous No.3880112]

>>3880026
You're a bit dumb.

[Anonymous No.3880113]

>>3880061
german

[Anonymous No.3880115]

>>3880113
more

[Anonymous No.3880123]

>>3880115
french

[Anonymous No.3880173]

>>3880112
Huh?

[Anonymous No.3880180]

>>3880123
That's how I learned it too.

[Anonymous No.3880188]

The last time I wrote in cursive was about 7 years ago when I took the SATs. I don't even know cursive. I even just scribble in my signature. I haven't used cursive in my writing since I was in 4th grade.

I proctored the SATs a month ago and I felt bad for making those kids write a paragraph in cursive.

[Anonymous No.3880248]

MIND=BLOWN after reading this thread

[Anonymous No.3880328]

[Anonymous No.3880327]

hey a thread to post these

I've been learning Spenserian ladies' hand (though I don't have a fountain pen anymore...)

either way it looks cute the shit they teach us in grade school is fucking ugly but apparently they switched over it it because it is easier to teach

[Anonymous No.3880590]

Cyrillic cursive

[Anonymous No.3880611]

Might as well go for broke and see just how many things the iPod generation of kids can avoid learning before graduation.

[Anonymous No.3880622]

>>3879952
i can confirm the veracity of this statement. i had shit handwriting in school, must have been awful for my teachers. well i quit handwriting after school and just recently dug some old notebooks out of storage and was appalled at what i saw. i thought 'i know i can do better than THAT'. so i did pretty much what anon said, just made a conscious, concerted effort and improved. i quite like writing now, its relaxing.

[Anonymous No.3880627]

>>3879994
>It would be about as much a problem if cursive died as if adding a little curve to the bottom of the lower-case "t" died.
the only way i can get my "t" to stop at the line is to curve it. thats the only way i can get anything to stop at the line, other i usually end up going past, and its enough to give your handwriting a bad appearance.

[Anonymous No.3880631]

>can't write neat at all
>spend two hours a day trying to practice writing neat
>a year of doing that
>my handwriting has gotten worse
Why have I been cursed with such a shitty neurological disorder? What did I do to deserve this?

[Anonymous No.3880639]

>>3880327
>>3880328
well, i mean, it becomes clear WHY cursive exists in the first place. when you're righting with a fountain pen its easier just to keep sliding it along.

[Anonymous No.3880681]

>>3880639
>you're righting with a fountain pen
>you're righting
>righting
o.O

[Anonymous No.3880687]

>>3880681

[Anonymous No.3880689]

>>3880687
This would be funnier if the second one was "write."

[Anonymous No.3881172]

Anyone else here never learn to print? I went to a private Christian school from kindergarten to fourth grade and I only ever learned cursive. Dropped it as soon as I could, but my handwriting is real loopy and flowy now, it looks very ladylike, I've been told.

[Anonymous No.3881178]

>>3880689
That'd be tacky.

[Anonymous No.3881330]

I teach English in Central Europe. All the kids here learn to write in cursive, as opposed to print, then cursive, like what's usually done in the US. Their cursive is slightly different from what I was taught (t's are different, for example.) so I always write in print on the board or on their papers. Kids ask me all the time when filling out worksheets or tests in my class if they have to write "in English" (meaning block letters) or if they can use cursive.

[Anonymous No.3881361]

>>3881330
Cyrillic cursive

share us what the kids use

[Anonymous No.3881491]

>>3881361
I attended a (very short and shoddy) Russian class a year ago, and we were told to write only in cursive. I usually write in cursive, but man. You haven't seen chaos until you've seen Russian written in cursive without really knowing the Cyrillic alphabet. It just turns into a mush of pretty curves.

[Anonymous No.3881510]

>>3881361
Being in Slovakia, they use the Latin alphabet, not Cyrillic.
Here's an example of their handwriting. Sadly, the only standouts in this example are the aforementioned lowercase t and the lumpy lowercase r, but this was the best example I could find at the moment.)

[Anonymous No.3881553]

Are you saying that cursive is not the default way to write in the US?
That's some weird shit.

[Anonymous No.3881555]

The only thing I can write in curisve is my signature, and even then half of it isn't actually cursive.

I don't know what happened, I used to be able to write really nice cursive.

[Anonymous No.3881664]

I've learned cursive in elementary and used it most of the time in my later school years because I could write it faster than block letters, but it looks shitty and I can barely read my old notes in cursive.

So I started writing only my exams in block letters (so that my teacher wouldn't just give me zero credits for unreadable gibberish) and later I took all my notes in block as well until I kind of unlearned cursive.

[Anonymous No.3881710]

>>3881553
Generally, children learn print/block letters first usually in kindergarten if not earlier, then around 2nd grade, they are taught cursive.

Most people I know write in a combination of cursive and block letters as adults. I know of a few people who still write in perfect cursive and also a couple people who write exclusively in all uppercase block letters. When I asked my friend why he wrote in all caps, he said it was because his writing would be illegible if he tried to navigate lowercase letters.

I think most people find a rhythm for their handwriting and do what seems to be the most natural coming out of their pen, cursive, print, or combinations thereof.

[Anonymous No.3882294]

>>3879811
It is true that they're not teaching cursive anymore in American schools (my daughter has gone all the way to high school without being taught other than by me). I think it's a shame. Can you imagine having to print every time you pick up a pen? Bleh.

[Anonymous No.3882370]

>>3881491
I took 6 months just to learn how to write in cursive in Cyrillic. This alphabet's just a mess.

[Anonymous No.3882406]

I learned cursive in third grade. And it shows.

[Anonymous No.3882444]

>>3880687
Dedications on self-published books by teens are the best.

This one is by a college student, but with a teens mentality.

[Anonymous No.3882452]

>>3882444
>you're negativity
This is truly great.

[Anonymous No.3882533]

The saving grace of taking the SATs is watching troglodytes spend 20 minutes trying to sign the confidentiality agreement in cursive.

Holy shit, I would have thought /lit/ would be unanimously in favor of cursive. I'm American and attended a Catholic school for the first eight years of my academic career; they made us learn cursive in 2nd grade. As soon as we did that, they made us do all long-form writing in pen, with pencils pretty much relegated to math homework.

There's something really depressing about adult print, it almost always looks childish and awkward to me.

[Anonymous No.3882544]

>>3882533
I had the same type of education, and I'm stuck using cursive while my block print stopped developing around 3rd grade. I couldn't really care less either way though. Most people are shit at writing cursive, so at least their block letters are legible.

[Anonymous No.3882590]

>>3882533
>I'm American and attended a Catholic school for the first eight years of my academic career; they made us learn cursive in 2nd grade. As soon as we did that, they made us do all long-form writing in pen, with pencils pretty much relegated to math homework.

That's pretty much how public school was, up until the later years of high school, where teachers stopped caring how students wrote.

[Anonymous No.3882710]

>>3879811
mfw I usually write in all caps, sometimes on exams

[Anonymous No.3882740]

>>3882533
For some reason I read that comment in the voice of Ignatius J. Reilly.