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Is there a fancy term that describes all of the movements in art, music, political philosophy, philosophy, religion, literature, etc. during the 20th and 21st centuries that emphasizes a return to tradition and a rejection of innovation, free form, nihilism, etc.?

>> No.3828348

no, there isn't.

leave this board.

>> No.3828369

>>3828339

Traditionalism (the 'traditionalist school') is a thing in religion, metaphysics/philosophy, and art.

>> No.3828472

>>3828339
>rejection of innovation
what

>> No.3828494

In business, that's called patent infringement.

I writing, that's called plagiarism.

It's not very easy to find these kinds of things, however, because they're so mediocre.

>> No.3828513

The closest thing to that would be post-modernism.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

>> No.3828526

>>3828513
No, that (in a very, very over-simplified sense) describes the opposite of what OP is referring to.
In art the term would probably be "academicism". Not sure about other fields.

>> No.3828533

Classicism, I suppose, in art and architecture?

>> No.3828541

>>3828526
Whoops, my bad, I misread the OP.
Post-post modernism then?

>> No.3828549

>>3828541
Why not Pre-Post-Post-Post-Postmodernism, fag?

>> No.3828561

Conservatism kinda?

>> No.3828565

Neohumanities. Just made it up, does it work?

>> No.3828567

NEW SINCERITY
Seriously I thought everyone was a big fan of DFW here

>> No.3828570

classicism

>> No.3828571

I don't think there's one as a whole, but Classicism is close. Neoformalism for poetry at least.

>> No.3828572

>>3828567
It is a rejection of cynicism but its closer to a return to romanticism than to classical conservative values.

>> No.3828579
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3828579

Why are people having a hard time answering this question?
It was fascism, and it was rubbish

SCHLAGETER: Good old Fritz! (Laughing.) No paradise will entice you out of your barbed wire entanglement!
THIEMANN: That's for damned sure! Barbed wire is barbed wire! I know what I'm up against.... No rose without a thorn!... And the last thing I'll stand for is ideas to get the better of me! I know that rubbish from '18 ..., fraternity, equality, ..., freedom ..., beauty and dignity! You gotta use the right bait to hook 'em. And then, you're right in the middle of a parley and they say: Hands up! You're disarmed..., you republican voting swine!—No, let 'em keep their good distance with their whole ideological kettle of fish ... I shoot with live ammunition! When I hear the word culture ..., I release the safety on my Browning!"
SCHLAGETER: What a thing to say!
THIEMANN: It hits the mark! You can be sure of that.
SCHLAGETER: You've got a hair trigger.

rubbish

Adolf Ziegler was rubbish, Triumph of the Will was rubbish, the Protestant Reich Church was rubbish, the entartete Kunst exhibit was rubbish, all of it was rubbish

Heidegger and moka pots were alright I guess

>> No.3828619

>>3828579
This was my first thought, too.

p.s. care to explain what I'm looking at here?

>> No.3828634

>>3828619
I forgot who made it, but it's just some photography student's project. I think the artist's statement said something about trying to create a bizarre sense of intrusion for the viewer, as if they had walked in on something private and... obscene, or something, in the sense of 'not to be seen' more than of something filthy.

People might complain that the Nazis also fetishized technological development (counter to a rejection of innovation) but even conservative Romans had a pragmatic sense of 'if it helps us rule, we'll use it'

>> No.3828643

>>3828579
So perfect and erotic. Oh my God.

>> No.3828687

>>3828579
>Adolf Ziegler was rubbish, Triumph of the Will was rubbish, the Protestant Reich Church was rubbish, the entartete Kunst exhibit was rubbish, all of it was rubbish
Fascism was a romanticist Italian nationalist movement with futurist tendencies.

>> No.3828708

>>3828619
danypeschl.com
DISTURBATION

>> No.3828712

DISTURBATION
danypeschl.com

>> No.3828714
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>>3828687
yea, I conflated National Socialism with fascism when I probably shouldn't have. I actually don't know that much about Italian fascism other than that it had a very strong "back to the land" tendency (as a glorification of the rural family model) with a futurist glorification of violence and technology (which is... sort of expressed in moka pots, I guess; there's a nice article on it http://www.ineedcoffee.com/03/mokaexpress/))

here's an image of Mussolini getting some peanut butter off the roof of his mouth, though

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>>3828708
oh shit I forgot about this

>> No.3828886

>>3828714
Thanks for the link, dude.

>> No.3828931

>>3828526
I concur with 'academicism' (or 'academic art') being the correct term for art.

>> No.3828936

>>3828714
Fascism is mostly kind of a meaningless concept. It's just vague talk about nationalism and "back to the land" ideas. But Mussolini admitted in private quite a bit that it was more a figleaf than anything else - bit like North Korea's Juche.

>> No.3828944

>>3828494

Go to bed, William. (Carlos Williams)

>> No.3828966

>>3828339
'Reactionary nonsense'

>> No.3828986

>>3828966

>implying any movement in art/philosophy/politics/literature/religion has been anything other than "reactionary nonsense"

>> No.3828987

amish! xD I know its i no brainer but its still the closest

>> No.3828992

>>3828339

New Formalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Formalism

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>>3828936
>Fascism is mostly kind of a meaningless concept. It's just vague talk about nationalism and "back to the land" ideas. But Mussolini admitted in private quite a bit that it was more a figleaf than anything else - bit like North Korea's Juche.
Fascism was that vague, but included futurism/modernism. Can't say it was just 'back to the land'. Mussolini's greatest achievement was synchronising trains and creating benefits for mothers.