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where is a good place to start with philosophy?
should i just go in head first and look up all the references to other philosophers, coinages, etc.?
it feels like a language of its own. any advice will be appreciated

>> No.3813825

>>3813823
*'head first' into any work i find interesting

>> No.3813866

we need a beginners guide to philosophy stickied. go to 420chans philosophy board op. we get these threads too much. no offense intended

>> No.3813869

fredo santana

>> No.3813872

With something contemporary written by someone from the western analytic tradition

Or if you do start with Plato or Descartes or whatever, keep in mind that a great deal of what they said is just wrong and indefensible in the modern world. We know better now.

>> No.3813873

"Start with the greeks"

>> No.3813905

>>3813872
>We know better now.
We believe we know better, so did they in their day.

>> No.3814224

start with he greeks
start with an edition for high schoolers or something. the language is very technical so you're going to want a few explanations when first starting. then as you read more you can gradually let go of help. by the time you finished with the greeks you should be able to tackle pretty much any western type

>> No.3814228

With yourself.

#2deep4u

>> No.3814229

You Kant Make It Up- Gary Hayden
>inb4 popular philosophy shit, it was a very good introduction.

>> No.3814230

Wisdom of the west is a nice book.

>> No.3814238

We seriously have this thread every other day. Check the archive and you'll see the usual (in no particular order):

1. Look at a college syllabus.
2. Secondary Literature (Sophie's World, Russell's History, etc.)
3. Start with the Greeks.
4. Find out what interests you, and start there.

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3814240

I'm reading this one, because it's free.
If something interests you then look at the reference and go from there.

>> No.3814360

If you're willing to put up with bad writing and plot for really easy explanations of different philosophers, go for Sophie's World

>> No.3815352

Start with the greeks.

Nothing wrong with just diving into Plato and Aristotle first. Both of them also give summaries of pre-Socratic and contemporary philosophers too.

Read Gorgias, the Apology or Thaeatetus first.

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3815372

>>3815352
>or Thaeatetus first.

>> No.3815516

>>3815372

Well, it's got some inspiring stuff in it which might potentially ignite the love of wisdom. There's the interlude where Socrates and the older Theodorus talk about justice, the midwife imagery, and Socrates' overall kind regard for Thaeatetus's bravery and willingness to discuss such a difficult topic.

It also contains a (Plato-ized) summary of two pre-Socratic schools of thought- Heraclitanism and Protagorean relativism.

>> No.3816013

>>3815516
Well, I would strongly argue against reading the Thaeatetus as a novice, because of the dryness and difficultness of the text; considering it is one of Plato's matured work and one of the most impressive works ever done on Epistemology.

>> No.3816185

Bertand Russell - History of Western Philosophy

>> No.3817293

I went straight for On the Genealogy of Morality by Friedrich Nietzsche.
Am I doing it wrong?

>> No.3817334

Gorgias by Plato