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What is your opinion on Pynchon?

Just picked up Inherent Vice finally.

>> No.3802998

he's shit.

>> No.3803007

I keep buying his books but up until this point I haven't read a single word he's written.

Seriously I own 5 of his books and they're just sitting on my shelf waiting to be read. It's disgusting

>> No.3803010

>>3803007
>>3803000
insane hivemind

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>>3803010
For some reason it posted even though it said the captcha was wrong.

>> No.3803029

>>3803007
why

>> No.3803049

>>3803029
I don't know!

>> No.3803052

>>3803049
Close your laptop and go start The Crying of Lot 49.

>> No.3803060

V. > GR, M&D > Vineland, Against The Day > The Crying of Lot 49 > Slow Learner > Inherent Vice > Bleeding Edge (probably)

>> No.3803064

>>3803060
>literature>shit>>>>>>>>Pynchon

ftfy

>> No.3803072

>>3803060
1. Gravity's Rainbow
2. V.
3. Mason & Dixon
4. The Crying of Lot 49
5. Vineland

I haven't read the others yet.

>> No.3803075

>>3803064
le controversial opinion face

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>>3803064

Give me five favorite authors.

I can't wait to see who you think is 'literary'.

>> No.3803082

>>3803075
it's only controversial among retards

>> No.3803088

>>3803060
Is V. really that good? I've only read M&D, which is without question one of the best books I've read. I've never seen V. rated higher than GR or M&D.

>> No.3803090

>>3803080
>Give me five favorite authors.
lol
no

>> No.3803095

>>3803088

V. is easily his best book.

IMO

>> No.3803097

>>3803090
>>3803092

Too predictable.

I'll keep waiting just in case.

>> No.3803092

>>3803080
lol
>please give me information to use against you

>> No.3803101

>>3803080
You sound like the typical /mu/tant.

>> No.3803106

>>3803095
V. is Gravity's Rainbow Lite. Everything he did in V. he did better in GR.

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>>3803097
those weren't both me chum

>> No.3803115

>>3803101

You sound like a man in need of a stall for a quick google of accepted authors.

>> No.3803119

>>3803106

GR is all the worst parts of V. put into a poor experiment.

He peaked with his first novel and never matched it again. Shyamalan Syndrome.

>> No.3803124

>>3803080
>Give me five favorite authors.

You first.

It's only fair.

>> No.3803125

>>3803113

Keep stalling. I'm here all week.

>> No.3803130

>>3803125
lol
see >>3803124

>> No.3803132

>>3803124

Cervantes, Beckett, O'Connor, Woolf, Faulkner

>> No.3803146

>>3803124
1. Some guy you never heard of from the Eastern Bloc
2. Thomas Pynchon
3. Token black author (African for extra authenticity)
4. Radical feminist
5. Shakespeare

>> No.3803154

>>3803146

Would've been funny if you posted first.

>> No.3803188

>>3803132
lel

>> No.3803200

>>3803188

Scathing critique, bruh

>> No.3803204

c'mon now boys. the best strategy is not to play.

>> No.3803226

>>3803200
top lel

>> No.3803245

>>3803132
>Cevantes
You only put him here to impress us. The way you're acting, I doubt you got this book.

>Beckett
"Repetition is so deep, really captures the circular meaningless of our lives man"

>O'Connor & Woolf
lol women

>Faulkner
Can't write for shit, relies on gimmicks

Try harder next time.

>> No.3803252

>>3803245
You're making a fool out of yourself.

>> No.3803266

>>3803007
I keep pirating his books but up until this point I haven't read a single word he's written.

Seriously I have 5 of his books and they're just sitting on my nook waiting to be read. It's disgusting

>> No.3803279

>>3803245
lmao mad as fuck
that list is fine

>> No.3803310

>>3803245

You could've at least tried

>> No.3803318

>>3803279
Except for the fact that it could just as easily have been a list of five of the most name-dropped authors on /lit/. Did he actually read any of them? Who knows!

That's why demanding to know someone's favourite authors, like it will prove anything, is the act of an intellectual midget

>> No.3803337

>>3803318
>a list of five of the most name-dropped authors on /lit/

That would be: Joyce, Nietzsche, Nabokov, Dostoevsky, Proust.

>> No.3803433

>>3803245
>insults Faulkner

Is this a troll or not?

>> No.3803496

Reading Against the Day, just got past page 200 today.

So far I'm liking it a whole hell of a lot. Why doesn't it get talked about more?

>> No.3803522

>>3803433
You can't deny that his writing is gimmicky.

>> No.3803545

Mason and Dixon is by far his best.

Definitely a strong contender for greatest american novel.

>> No.3803563

>>3803522
pynchon is gimmicky too, you can't deny it. btw your turn fuccboi

>> No.3803583

Bleeding Edge is gonna be amazing!

>> No.3803604

>>3803545
M&D is bloated. It lacks the momentum of GR.

>> No.3803639
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I've only read Inherent Vice and Gravity's Rainbow so far but I'm already sort of content with calling him a genius.

Inherent Vice is a pretty good novel but it's underwhelming and I don't think it's the best book to be introducing yourself to Pynchon with; whereas Gravity Rainbow is really fucking great, dense tome of post-war reveries, but I really recommend a companion book to read along with it because of all the obscure references to early 20th century culture and world history.

>> No.3803742

>>3803563
>pynchon is gimmicky too, you can't deny it
I don't deny it.

> btw your turn
?

>fuccboi
???

>> No.3803778

>>3803742
I'm telling you to give me your five favorite authors, so we can validate whether or not your opinion of his taste is valid enough to determine whether or not his taste validates his opinion of Pynchon.

>> No.3804558

>>3803604
Disagree. They disintegrate or explode towards the last 1/4, but for the first 3/4s both M&D and GR are a lot of fun.

M&D just hit me way harder and had some of the greatest english prose ever.

>> No.3804564

I don't understand why people say not to read Inherent Vice as your introduction.

You'll finish the book in a few fucking hours. It's a really easy quick beach read.

Why would he write an easy book and not expect it to serve as a kind of introduction?
> "durr start chronologically, actually no, start with Plato!" - Thomas Pynchon

>> No.3804578

Mason & Dixon > The Crying of Lot 49 > Gravity's Rainbow

Not even trolling.

>> No.3804594

>>3804578
i agree with this

>> No.3804631

So it seems like the opinion is that Inherent Vice isn't too good.

>> No.3804692

>>3804578
Lot 49> M&D > GR

Lot 49 was the first Pynchon I read, and so it will always hold a special place in my heart. But that's not even why I put it first. To me, by virtue of being a novella, it's fucking flawless. I mean there is not a single word I would get rid of. I really feel Pynchon's style is most effective in short, concentrated doses.

>> No.3804698

>>3804578
I don't think Crying is better than either of those, but I could see arguments for either M&D or GR being his best.

>> No.3804703

>>3803060
My opinion:
GR, M&D > V. > Crying > Vineland > Against the Day > Slow Learner (the story quality varies, but on average) > Inherent Vice

I'm hesitant to just assume Bleeding Edge will be bad. Mason & Dixon was significantly better than anything he'd done in the preceding two decades.

>> No.3804719

>>3804692
>I really feel Pynchon's style is most effective in short, concentrated doses.

I agree. He doesn't know when enough is enough.

>> No.3804723

>>3804719
You can never have enough Pynchon.

>> No.3804724

>>3804723
Tell that to my attention span.