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Can we have a discussion about Cosmic Horror?

What are some good entries to the genre NOT by Lovecraft?

Though Lovecraft recommendations are fine too, as not everyone has read everything.

Last time I made one of these threads yielded decent discussion, but the only recommendation was John Dies at the End, and that was fucking terrible.

What are your favorite stories?

What do you like or dislike about the genre?

>> No.3784662

This thread is horrible.

>> No.3784665

>>3784662
Make it better then.

>> No.3784672

John Dies at the End was amazing you piece of shit.

>> No.3784674

>>3784665
That would defeat the purpose.

>> No.3784676

>>3784672
You're joking right?

>> No.3784677

>>3784674
Actually, that would be to the purpose.

Why are you on a forum if not to contribute discussion?

>> No.3784679

>>3784677
Cosmic horror is degenerative, not contributive.

>> No.3784681

>>3784679
And you hold this opinion because?

>> No.3784690

>>3784681
You are demonstrating it nicely.

>> No.3784692

Southern Gods

>> No.3784693

>>3784690
So basically you're saying
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE WAAAAH

Alright then.

>> No.3784694

>>3784690
Quit pretending

>> No.3784696

I love cosmic horror. I've only ever read Lovecraft for the genre but I heard Alan Moore's new comic book based off of Lovecraft's work is worth a read.

>> No.3784697

>>3784693
>>3784694

This is nice, but the depths of your horror seem to have hit bottom.

Next.

>> No.3784701

>>3784696
It's pretty terrible actually.

>> No.3784702

>>3784657
Star Maker by the good man Olaf Stapledon has a few quite harrowing cosmic horror moments.

>> No.3784705

>>3784702
Thanks.

>> No.3784704

Thomas Ligotti is pretty great.

>> No.3784706

>>3784657
John Dies at the End is only for cracked fanboys

>> No.3784707

>>3784701
Really? I heard there were some shocking sex scenes but I really know nothing about the story other than it features The Deep Ones

>> No.3784712

>>3784707
The first issue of the comic was great, felt like classic Lovecraft.

Then it just got bad.

Then a woman was raped by a giant fish man.

Then she gave him a handjob, the end.

>> No.3784713

Arthur Machen's Great God Pan

>> No.3784715

>>3784713
Thank you.

>> No.3784716

>>3784712
> bueno.jpg

>> No.3784720

>>3784716
Also, I'm a huge Alan Moore fan, so it came as quite a shock that this was bad.

>> No.3784726

>>3784720
Have you read the latest LoEG? It's Moore's take on The Mountains of Madness, and infinitely superior to that Neonomicon crapolla.

>> No.3784735

>>3784726
I... No. What?

He still makes those? I still need to read past the first one. Which, I've been planning to do anyway, since I like Isle of Doctor Monroe.

Have to find this now.

>> No.3784741

>>3784712
Fuck! Maybe I'll torrent the fish man sex. I'll definitely check out his take of At The Mountains of Madness still.

>> No.3784750

>>3784741
Go for it.

People who aren't me liked it, but I have no idea why.

>> No.3784754

>discussing comics

Any Sandman fans?

>> No.3784768

>>3784735
Second volume of LoEG is basically a perfect comic, you owe it to yourself to read it.

A lot of people don't like Black Dossier and Century because there's more literary critique and in-jokes than actual story progression. Especially in Century, where the characters basically just wander from one obscure reference to the next without any real bearing on the plot. But they're still pretty great imo, and the art is stellar throughout.

>> No.3784770

>>3784754
Why yes, actually, I am a big fan of Neil Gaiman's Sandman series. I've only read up till the 4th volume but I find the series fascinating.

>> No.3784774

>>3784770
4th and 6th volumes are fantastic.

6th volume is like the 3rd, just individual stories, but they're fantastic.

>> No.3784778

>>3784768
Downloading now.

Will go out and buy when I have the cash, if I like it.

>> No.3784792

>cosmic horror

So, horror in space?

That sounds fucking awful.

>> No.3784808

Doesn't Poe in some aspects count?

>> No.3784816

>>3784792
u wot m8

>> No.3784819

>>3784704
Thomas Ligotta can't write two sentences without fucking something up. Even Lovecraft is Tolstoy compared to him.

>> No.3784820

/lit/ fucking hates Lovecraft, what are you on about?

>> No.3784824

>>3784808
mmm... no.

>> No.3784826

>>3784819
Not having read any of his work, what is your issue with him exactly?

>> No.3784833

>>3784826
Terrible writing. Lovecraft was a pulp writer, but Ligotti is teenage girl Silent Hill fanfiction-grade.

You don't have to believe me. Pick out a respected Ligotti novel and see for yourself.

>> No.3784836

>>3784833
>novel

I haven't seen anything that wasn't short stories.

>> No.3784842

>>3784836
He has longer fiction, though.

Actually, I ahvne't read his short stories. Maybe they're better, though unlikely.

>> No.3784848

>>3784842
Different guy here, his short stories are... fine.

Not as problematic as you've described at the very least.

>> No.3785547

Bump.

>> No.3785559

>people on /lit/ read comics

>> No.3785572

>>3784820
>/lit/ fucking hates Lovecraft
/lit/ isn't one person

>> No.3785570

A few stories in Clive Barker's Books Of Blood. I'm defining cosmic horror as Man's interaction/discovery of things vastly beyond his understanding and inability to do anything about it though. So maybe it's not cosmic in the "they're from
another world" sense but rather "it doesn't belong to the world I know".

>> No.3785586

>>3785572
I've never seen him mentioned in a positive light.

Even in this thread outside the OP.

>> No.3785591

>>3785586
You haven't been on /lit/ for long then. He has been praised loads before, but he gets discussed so frequently that no one really goes out of their way to praise him anymore.

>> No.3785599

>>3785591
7 years, but usually didn't stay.

I also see John Dies praised in Cosmic Horror threads, that doesn't mean /lit/ loves it. At least I hope not.

>> No.3785608

>>3785599
>that doesn't mean /lit/ loves it
/lit/ is made of a group of individual. I don't understand why you think /lit/ is just one person typing away.

>> No.3785613

>>3785608
I don't, but I assume we're people with an appreciation of literature.

John Dies at the End is a mess on multiple levels and is even insulting to read at several points.

>> No.3785621

>>3785613
Never read it, but to go and say that Lovecraft is universally hated on /lit/ is just ridiculous and entirely untrue. I enjoy the works of Lovecraft, he goes overboard with his prose and his plots are largely recycled, but I enjoy his stories.

>> No.3785623

The King In Yellow

>> No.3785625

>>3784833

You have zero, I repeat, zero idea what you're talking about. Ligotti has written no novels and his only "long" work is a philosophical treatise. He may not be Tolstoy, but he is among the most literally horror writers ever and, stylistically, is leagues ahead of Lovecraft.

>> No.3785626

>>3785625

literally = literary

>> No.3785636

Anyone else think Ligotti just rights in the exact same style as Poe, just more modern?

>> No.3785646

>>3785625
>Ligotti has written no novels
Okay, I was really confused by what the hell he was on about.

>> No.3785647

The Great God Pan by Arthur Machen

>> No.3785649

>>3785647
Already mentioned, but thanks.

>> No.3785651

Cosmic Horror is difficult to maintain in long/novel form. Floating Dragon, by Peter Straub, and several books by Ramsey Campbell fit the bill, particularly The Darkest Part of the Woods. Also, The Mind Parasites by Colin Wilson.

That said, there are tons of excellent examples in short story form. Many of them are collected in a recently published anthology called The Weird, edited by Jeff and Ann VanderMeer.

Among my favorites:

The Willows, Algernon Blackwood
Genius Loci, Clark Ashton Smith
The Aleph, Jorge Luis Borges
In the Hills, the Cities, Clive Barker
Crouch End, by Stephen King *
The Function of Dream Sleep, Harlan Ellison
7C, Jason Roberts *
Reports of Certain Events in London, China Mieville
The Cave of History, Theodore Sturgeon *
A Little Something for us Tempunauts, Philip K. Dick *

* not in aforementioned collection

>> No.3785657

>>3785651
Thank you very much.

Will certainly get the anthology, and track the others down eventually.

>> No.3785665

Colour out of Space is my favorite Lovecraft.

>> No.3785693

>>3785665
Why did you prefer it to Madness?

>> No.3785732

>>3785651
>Stephen King

Really...?

>> No.3785736

>>3785665
>>3785693

That's a weird way to write The Music Of Erich Zann.

>> No.3785742

>>3785736
>That's a weird way to write The Music Of Erich Zann
I can't have a different favorite than you?

I haven't read a whole lot of Lovecraft, just Colour, Mountains, Innsmouth and a couple short stories here or there.

>> No.3785786

>>3785742

You could probably read it somewhere on the 'net, as it's really short. It was one of Lovecraft's favourites as he felt it wasn't as explicit as his other stories, which he considered a flaw of a lot of his works, which I agree with to an extent. Read Rats in the Walls as an example of this as well if you haven't read it yet.

All the one's you've read are good though, and both Colour and Madness are great.

>> No.3785787

>>3785786
I have a complete book, so I'll go for it later today.

Thanks for the recommendations.

>> No.3785843

The only thing I've read that evokes cosmic horror was a short story called Lungfish about alien civilizations sending drones out into space.

>> No.3785860

Does The King in Yellow count in this genre?

After all, it's about something which is somewhat incomprehensible and has inexplicable connotations. Only you know, it's a play instead of organisms.

And tragically, it was only 3-4 short stories. But still.

>> No.3785905

>>3785732

Good enough for the New Yorker, the O. Henry Awards, and the National Book Awards, but not for you?

Sure, a lot of what he writes is populist pulp, but some of it, his short fiction especially, can stand with anything ever written in the genre.

>> No.3786018

>>3785905
You misunderstood me, just meant he didn't seem the cosmic horror type.

>> No.3786035

The King in Yellow

Mythago Wood

seconding Great God Pan

>> No.3786052

>>3786018

Crouch End (the story cited) is an overt Lovecraft homage, written within the mythos.

>> No.3786086

I always hear Howard did cosmic horror better than Lovecraft.

But I've never read any if his work, and while I know Conan is within the Myrtis I was hoping for actual Cosmic Horror stories.

Any recommendations?

>> No.3786098

>>3786086

The four notable stories he contributed to the Mythos were "The Black Stone", "The Cairn on the Headland", "The Children of the Night" and "The Fire of Asshurbanipal".

Don't believe he wrote any Cosmic Horror outside the Mythos.

>> No.3786120

>>3786086
>Myrtis

Fucking autocorrect.

>> No.3786129

>>3786086
>>3786098
Didn't they have a Lewis/Tolkien, Houdini/Doyle style relationship?

>> No.3786242

>>3786098
Thanks.

>> No.3786250

>>3786129

Not to be glib, but yes, they were friends, frequent correspondents, and mutual admirers.

>> No.3786431

>all this shit taste

>> No.3786451

>>3786431
Fuck off.

>> No.3786493

>>3785559
read some alan moore
his watchmen book made it onto time magazine's list of 100 greatest novels even thought it wasn't technically a novel

don't bash what you don't know, theres a lot of great literate comics out there, they're just sprinkled throughout the crap, like every medium

>> No.3786508

>What are some good entries to the genre NOT by Lovecraft?

House on the Borderland by hodgson

>> No.3786542

>>3784672
This.

>> No.3786712

>>3786542
Kill yourself.

>> No.3786737

>>3786542
>climax is 100 pages in
>shitty prose
>felt like butter spread over too much waffle
>same shitty plot twist over and over
>HURR IT'S THE ULTIMATE GOD BEING AND EVERYTHING IT SAYS IS LITERALLY A DICK JOKE

Yeah, absolutely amazing.

>> No.3786753

>>3786737
You didn't list anything I enjoyed about it, although I did like the humor a bit.
Moreover, I liked the psychological aspects of it, how Wong dealt with experiencing paranormal shit, or creepiness, or fear...or for Wong just the experience of stuff too-weird-to-be-real. It was detailed in ways more relate-able than most "ghost" stories I've read.

In any case, why the fuck are you so butthurt over people liking what you don't like? Stop giving so many fucks and calm yourself.

>> No.3786759

>>3784657
There are some good stories by Hazel Heald, in particular The Mound and Medusa's Coil. If you wanted to go very near to Lovecraftian, you could go with The Curse of Yig.

The Black Stone by Robert E. Howard isn't that bad either.

>> No.3786796

>>3785736

this was lovecraft's personal favorite of his own stories. i'm more fond of shadow out of time personally but his shorter stories are great. dreams in the witch house, polaris, lots of interesting stuff.

>> No.3786813

>>3784808
he inspired the genre, and his several of his works contain aspects of it, most notably seen in his novel

>> No.3786830

>>3786813
m

>> No.3786857

>>3786830
?

>> No.3786875

>people liked John Dies at the End

Bullshit.

>> No.3786882

>>3786875
Yes, we're implying that people outside of you exist you egomaniac 5 year old. We don't all share the same emotions, thoughts and feelings at the same time now.

>> No.3786885

>>3786882
>likes John Dies
>calls others 5 year olds

The irony.

>> No.3786893

>>3786885
While I could have said it better, I meant the 5 year old remark as LIKE a 5 year, the, is it Jungian? archetype that those 5 and under cannot fathom the idea that people outside themselves exist.

Which is basically what you're doing. To each their own. I mean, if you don't like something doesn't that give you even more of a reason to not care if other people do, or why? I have never understood the need to point out what people don't like.

I don't care what care what you don't like. I don't even care what you do like. And, I dont know why you care about me so much to be upset that we disagree. We have our differences but I'm sure our lack of a relationship will remain just as strong : D

>> No.3786894

>>3786893
>I don't care what care what you don't like.
The fuck happened there.
I think I meant to say: I don't care about what you don't like.

>> No.3786900

>>3786893
Some people like Fifty Shades of Grey and Alas Shrugged.

Doesn't make either of them good literature.

>> No.3786913

>>3786900
I don't think any one claimed it was..

>> No.3787424

>>3786913
Right here.
>>3784672
>>3786542

>> No.3788147

What is dead can never die.

>> No.3788434

>>3788147
>hurr durr GoT

>> No.3788529

>>3788434
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.

>> No.3788668

King in Yellow?

>> No.3789047

Bump

>> No.3789075

My reccommendations:
1. Go through Lovecraft's Supernatural Horror In Literature and pick out the stories which he says touch upon the cosmic. Some of these might include: The Willows by Algernon Blackwood, The House of Sounds by M.P. Shiel, and any big story from Arthur Machen.
2. As you probably already know, a lot that was written after Lovecraft is negligible pastiche. However, there have been a few writers who have effectively invoked the feeling of cosmic horror. Thomas Ligotti, for one. Listen to I Have A Special Plan For This World and try to pick up a copy of Teatro Grottesco. J. R. Hamantaschen does it great as well, especially in his story, and I don't remember the title word for word, There Is a Family of Gnomes Living in My Walls and I Won't Disappoint Them Any Longer.

>> No.3789077

>>3788529
22deep4me

>> No.3789129

>>3789075
>try to pick up a copy of Teatro Grottesco

Just did, funnily enough.

>> No.3789240

>>3784808
The Conqueror Worm is kind of related, and my favorite work by him.

>> No.3789267

>>3789075
People listen to Current 93?

>> No.3789331

>>3786493
>watchmen

maybe it's because i don't read comics (seeing as it engaged with comic tropes and deconstructed them), but it felt pretty overwrought/obvious at times. not bad or anything, but definitely didn't make me want to get into comics if that was supposed to be the pinnacle.

>> No.3789352

>>3789331
Most people would agree that Sandman is the pinnacle of comics.

And, since you're on a literature board, I would say you would like Sandman.

>> No.3789359

>>3789240
No.

>> No.3789974

>>3789359
You can dictate others' favorite works?

>> No.3791088

How is this shit still breathing?

>> No.3791145

>>3786035
>Mythago Wood
Excellent novel, good call. Would not have thought to suggest that, but it you could easily look at it as a Lovecraft meets Wind In The Willows thing.

>> No.3791159

So far
Mythago Wood
Thomas Ligotti in general
Lovecraft in general
The Great God Pan
The King in Yellow
Star Maker
and a small amount of Robert E. Howard

This seem like a good list?

>> No.3791178
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3791178

The Man Who Was Thursday.

It's a rare recommendation thread where it doesn't belong.

>> No.3791188

>>3791178
>metaphysical thriller

I'll bite.

Without giving some sort of plot summary, what's good about it, and why do you recommend it?

>> No.3791261

>>3791188
It's like Kafka meets Alice In Wonderland. A world where the unknowable wrestles with the absurd, producing something oppressive, whimsical, terrifying and mundane. Plus its allegories are suggestive rather than ASLAN=JESUS tier.

>> No.3791268

>>3791261
>$6 paperback

Done.

>> No.3791438

>>3791178
That book was shit.

>> No.3792128

>>3791438
Any reason there?

>> No.3792269

Thomas Ligotti.

>> No.3792321

>>3789331
The problem is people like the guy you are responding to who vomit names like Alan Moore whenever people ask for 'good' examples of the medium.

But honestly, there's no point bothering with comics if you can't read French.

>> No.3793199

>>3792321
I really liked Watchmen, though. But that's probably because I don't particularly care for cape comics, and the last time I read it I was sixteen.

>> No.3793277

>>3792321
>there's no point bothering with comics if you can't read French

No, that's bullshit.

France does have a great comic scene, but denying works like Sandman and Alan Moore's Swamp Thing is beyond ridiculous.

>> No.3793296

>>3792321
Oh man, I can't wait to go fucking read Blacksad again.

So deep.

Oh, yeah, no.

>> No.3793408

>>3792321
>I've never read Alan Moore other than Watchmen and somehow think entry level reading is the best work of every author despite being on a fucking lit board

>> No.3793563

Guys, there was a shitty comic thread yesterday by some 13 year old who had just read Transmet.

Do we need this to become another?

>> No.3793586

>>3793563
>implying 13 year olds can read

>> No.3793587 [DELETED] 

>>3791088
Got your answer you butt blasted faggot, you just bumped it. Thanks and fuck off

>> No.3793597

>>3793586
I'm American.

Read through the Silmarillion at 7.

Get fucked.

>> No.3793600

>>3793587
Sad thing is, he was probably >>3784662 back again.

>> No.3793602 [DELETED] 

>>3784657
Can all you faggot cunts fuck off with your comic book kiddie shit?

Signed,
Everybody

>> No.3793614

>>3793602
>replies to OP

I didn't bring up comics.

Also I know you're here only to be an inflammatory moron but if you think all comics are kid shit, you're a stuck up ignorant moron who doesn't actually read things before judging them.

But seeing as they're not the point of the thread, it would be nice for actual discussion.

Not that much has been had...

Some nice recommendations are all that's really occurred.

Why don't you actually contribue to the thread instead of trying to start more arguments?

>> No.3793633 [DELETED] 

>>3793614
Why don't you get some ointment for you ravaged asshole bitch? Fuck off to your children's readings.

>> No.3793646

>>3793633
Oh, you really are just an idiot.

Okay.

Thanks for the bumps at least.

>> No.3793652 [DELETED] 

>>3793633
>being this butthurt
Don't let mom catch you reading your kid-shit under the covers tonight!

>> No.3793661 [DELETED] 

>>3793646
Pardon me, I meant to quote you.
>>3793652

>> No.3794065

>>3793661
>not only am I from /b/ I also don't know how to quote in general

It's getting better by the minute.

>> No.3794110 [DELETED] 

>>3794065
Being mad wont change the fact that you are a grown man that reads kids books with pictures. Stay mad dude.

>> No.3794115

>>3794110
>sage

Oh god, please, please tell me this is just a ruse.

You've got me laughing really hard, it's okay man.

>> No.3794118

>>3794110
>I've only read Batman comics, so all comics must be for children
The not knowing how to use sage on top of it is just too much. I can't stop laughing.

>> No.3794140

>>3794118
>saging my thread because there is a retard who can't read who wants to argue about comics for some reason

>> No.3794142

>>3785651
>Ramsey Campbell

Requesting opinions on him

>> No.3794144 [DELETED] 

>>3794115
>>3794118
>>3794140
ITT: Mad children post le rusemen replies because someone told them comics are for babies. Losers hahahahaha

>> No.3794148

>>3794140
>Not knowing proper sage function
Do us all a favour and just delete the thread already.

>> No.3794149 [DELETED] 

>>3794148
>dat sage
Haven't you heard? Saging wont add inches to your penis.

>> No.3794152

>>3794149
Maybe you should go back to >>>/v/ since you clearly don't know what sage is for.

>> No.3794159

>>3794148
I know what Sage does, I would prefer the thread to be bumped that someone other than this >>3794144 moron might post actual discussion here.

Why don't you stop jumping to conclusions?m

>> No.3794168 [DELETED] 

>>3794152
Maybe you should buy some dick enlargement pills. Since you are saging like a little bitch. Hahaha

>> No.3794178 [DELETED] 

Uhhh okay. So does anyone have any links to these stories?

Thanks in advance. :)

>> No.3794189
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3794189

>>3794110
>not reading kids books with pictures
have you even kissed a girl on the lips

>> No.3794197 [DELETED] 

>>3794189
see
>>3794168

>> No.3794203

>>3794189
What the fuck is this?

It's not even English.

>> No.3794204

>>3794178
lmgtfy.com

>> No.3794206 [DELETED] 

>>3794204
Thanks for the contributive post.

>> No.3794212

>>3794206
Because the past 50 posts have been contributive.

>> No.3794217 [DELETED] 

>>3794212
>SOMEONE ELSE SHITPOSTS SO I CAN TOO
Nice logic bro

>> No.3794225

>>3794217
Then why don't you like the idiot to the stories?

Or post something to do with the thread?

>> No.3794254

>>3794225
That would be too hard.

>> No.3794324

So?

>> No.3794331

So who here liked Game of Thrones?

>> No.3794373

>>3794331
What?

>> No.3794422

>>3794373
What, what?

>> No.3794450

Bump

BUMPITY BUMP BUMP BUMP

>> No.3794456

>>3794450
Being OP.

I'm curious.

Why bump my thread? Especially at this point.

>> No.3794475

>>3794456
B
U
M
P

>> No.3794487

>>3794475
Okay then, keep doing that.

>> No.3794536

Or not, that's cool.

>> No.3794548

Here, have a really short Ligotti piece:

Ten Steps To Thin Mountain

1. One day I saw it on a very old map: Thin Mountain. No elevation was noted. In my mind vague images began to form. I set the map aside and closed my eyes. Then there was a sudden commotion, the kind that may start up anyplace, whether on a train rocking along on its tracks or just an old bench somewhere. A group of people ran by, waving their arms and making odd noises. What was it that suddenly made me reach for the old map, only to find it was gone? And I just sat there wondering what things were really like on Thin Mountain.

2. No one knows all the legends inspired by Thin Mountain, but here are a few I’ve recently picked up: that the air up there will turn you into a raving visionary in a matter of hours, that after a few days you experience strange yearnings that are impossible to fulfull, that long-time residents become immortal and after death walk the woods as skeletons. What can you expect from hearsay? But one thing is certain among these conjectures: no one wants to give Thin Mountain a chance.

3. Only one way to Thin Mountain: absolute madness. By this I mean to put forth no clever insight. To be at eye level with the world clearly leads straight to nowhere; on the other hand, once your gaze slips off the horizontal, everything else goes with it. That is to say, no one can any longer vouch for your sanity. You have become... wayward. A grinning dwarf beckons you from the ledge of a tall building, gargoyles perched on cathedrals angle their snouts in a certain direction. And before you know it you’re lying around on Thin Mountain.

>> No.3794552

>>3794548

4. Not all that I have discovered about Thin Mountain is pleasant. Despite a great deal of picturesque scenery—floathing strands of mist, narrow trees, fabulous fingerlike peaks—this region contains more than a few perils. One of them is a solitude fit only for fanatics of exile, their eyes always draining the distances. Another is a wind which seems to be composed of countless tiny voices, the chattering populus of an invisible universe. The half-lit days and the sorcery of its nights, moments in which nothing moves and others in which everything does. But what else would you expect from a place called Thin Mountain?

5. Once I heard the words “Thin Mountain” spoken in a crowd. Did I say that I saw who said it? I did not. It could have been anyone standing along the platform, waiting for the train to arrive. The same day someone threw himself under the train. He was cut in half... but what a happy expression was plastered on the face of that corpse. “Thin Mountain!” I couldn’t help crying out in front of everyone. But as I suspected, no one came forward to confront me.

6. Not once but a thousand times I wished to dwell forever on Thin Mountain, even at a price of my life or my sanity. No happiness except on those peaks!

7. One morning I awoke with great difficulty, and the pain, the noise was worse than ever. All day the pain, the noise. All day Thin Mountain.

8. Nothing secret, I now realize, concerning the existence of Thin Mountain. It seems everyone has known about it all along. I hear them discussing it everywhere. Oh, Thin Mountain, yes, Thin Mountain, certainly.

9. On Thin Mountain, no one talks about Thin Mountain.

10. The train will be here soon.

>> No.3794604

>>3794548
>>3794552
Is this in Teatro?

>> No.3794608

>>3794604

No, the Subterranean edition of Noctuary

>> No.3794614

is ligotti deliberately trying to stay a cult author, or why is every of his books out of print?

>> No.3794616

>>3794608
Ah.

I can't seem to find anything for sale that isn't Teatro.

Why is everything out of print?

Where would I find shit?

>> No.3794630

>>3794616

Here's Noctuary in PDF

http://www.mediafire.com/download/v3r4c9urpika2td/

But it's the original edition, so no Thin Mountain. Ligotti tends to revise his works whenever they're re-published and, asides from slightly rewriting the content, sometimes a story disappears or new stuff is added. The Subterranean Press edition has Thin Mountain and Charnelhouse of the Moon, but I think it's missing a couple of the Notebook of the Night stories.

And yeah. Most of it is out of print. There's pirate copies of Grimscribe, Noctuary and Songs of a Dead Dreamer floating around, so I guess those are your best bet.


>>3794608

Far as I can tell, he doesn't like dealing with the corporate world (and has in fact written a series on corporate horror) and feels more comfortable working with small presses. He actually earns a living as a copy editor and writes fiction only whenever he feels like doing so. He typically writes a batch of stories, then writes nothing for four, five or more years. At the moment, his latest stories are from 2003.

>> No.3794643

>>3794630
>and has in fact written a series on corporate horror
Is this available?

>> No.3794664

>>3794643

It's spread over two books: My Work Is Not Yet Done and Teatro Grottesco.

MWINYD is a novella ("my work is not yet done"), a short story ("i have a special plan for this world") and a series of vignettes ("the nightmare network").

Teatro Grottesco includes four stories, two of which ("my case for retributive action" and "our temporary supervisor") are about the same corpotation, and the other two ("the town manager" and "the red tower") which are a lot more allegorical and could as well be about life or existence itself rather than just a company.

The Red Tower is available for free reading here: http://weirdfictionreview.com/2011/12/the-red-tower-by-thomas-ligotti/<wbr>

>> No.3794673

>>3794664
I bought a copy of Teatro, just haven't read it yet, like Thin Mountain though.

Will try to find physicals of his other stuff.

>> No.3794675

>>3794664
Thank you, by the way, for all the information and the story.

>> No.3794683

>>3794673

Sometimes on ebay decently priced copies pop up. But generally expect people demanding a hundred or more for their copies. And that's not even getting into the hardcovers, the leather-bound numbered copies, or stuff that's been signed by Ligotti. He commands some ridiculous prices on the second-hand market.

If possible, try to track down a copy of The Nightmare Factory. It's an omnibus that (partially) collects his first three books (Dead Dreamer, Grimscribe and Noctuary), and includes a bunch of stories that would later appear in Teatro Grottesco. But in this edition Dead Dreamer is missing two stories, and Noctuary is missing the complete "notebook of the night" section (which you can read on the PDF linked above). But hey, it's a bit over 40 stories in a single book. Quite a good collection.

On a side note, there's two comic books that adapt some of Ligotti's stories (four per book) also titled The Nightmare Factory. They're an interesting curiosity, but not really essential. Most of the stories are too distorted from their original counterparts. They did a great adaptation of The Last Feast of Harlequin, though.

>> No.3794706

Oh, and if you don't mind a 226mb download, here's this:

http://extabit.com/file/27b5z3ehd8nfh/Crypt.of.Cthulhu.Fanzine.rar

It's a bunch of issues of the Crypt of Cthulhu magazine, edited by Ramsey Campbell. The main draw of this collection is issue 68, which was their special Ligotti issue. They were impressed at the time because Ligotti appeared out of nowhere and was already writing unbelievably good material, so they collected a bunch of his stuff into this issue. Some of which has NEVER been reprinted anywhere else.

Issues come in cbr format, so if you lack a cbr reader (I like CDisplayEx) you can just use winrar or 7-zip or whatever to open up the files, extract the images (jpg) and read them however you wish.

>> No.3794719

>>3794706
!

Virus!

>> No.3794723

>>3794719

Hm. Yeah, I guess it's suspicious.

Let me upload the single issue in mediafire or something then.

>> No.3794732

>>3794723
That wasn't me, but I suppose that works too if you started.

>> No.3794738

>>3794732

Yes, it'll be uploaded in a bit.

I'm only putting the Ligotti material, though. No ads or mail section. So instead of 70 pages it's now around 50.

Formatting is a little wonky (two columns, typewriter-like font) but readable.

>> No.3794757

Here goes

http://www.mediafire.com/?b9dk47damii8j0t

Same deal: cbr file, openable with Cdisplay, Comicrack or similar programs; or alternatively you can open it with winzip or whatever and extract the image files and use your preferred image viewer.

>> No.3794774

>>3784657
Mods are nigger kikes

>> No.3794808

>>3794774
Off-topic, but nigger kikes are the fucking worst kind. All of the arrogance of the Jew with none of the intelligence. Fuck nigger kikes right up the ass.

>> No.3794817

I would recommend "H.P. Lovecraft's Book of Horror". It includes his essay on horror literature as well as many of the stories he brings up, such as Machen as well as Robert W. Chambers. I enjoy Lovecraft, but next to nobody knows how influencial Chambers was. I only with Chambers wrote more creepy stuff.

>> No.3794825

>>3794142
>The Man Who Was Thursday
I feel he's a great writer. He's written some classic short stories, with "Call First" being my favorite. I know I read a few of his stories without even knowing it.
The Overnight was a good novel by him. I was surprised at how effectively he could fit jump-scares into his book.

>> No.3794828

>>3794738
>>3794757
At any rate, it's very appreciated.

>>3794774
Fuck off.

>>3794825
Will keep this in mind, thank you.

>>3794817
Same as above.

>> No.3794833

>>3794774
>drawing mod attention to a thread about literature on the literature board

How quaint.

>> No.3794942

>>3794833

>> No.3794997

I just started reading and i just finished At the mountains of madness. I really enjoyed it and finished it under two days, which is record time for a lazy cunt like me.

What should i get next? I have no idea what to read now or what i actually want to read.

>> No.3795026

>>3794997
More Lovecraft; Colour out of Space, Music of Erich Zann, Call of Cthulhu, Shadow Over Innsmouth.

Not Lovecraft; Teatro Grottesco, probably anything recommended more than once in this thread.

John Dies at the End is fucking terrible, Southern Gods starts off strong but falters and ultimately fails at the end.

>> No.3795030

>>3795026
Alright thanks.
Guess i'll stick with Lovecraft for a while

>> No.3795035

>>3795030
If you're someone who just buys books, I'd honestly recommend just getting the B&N complete Lovecraft, as it has anything you'd want of his and is $20.

If you download, well, not really like you need my help.

>> No.3795037

>>3795035
I buy them, i can't stand reading on a screen.

>> No.3795040

>>3795035
>B&N complete Lovecraft
Do you got an amazon link?
I don't go to bookstores

>> No.3795041

>>3795037
Same, but each his own, and whatnot.

>> No.3795043

>>3795040
B&N was referring to Barnes and Noble.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/barnes-noble-leatherbound-classics-hp-lovecraft-h-p-lovecraft/1106658815?ean=9781435122963

Amazon has the same edition here. More expensive, by a few bucks.

http://www.amazon.com/H-P-Lovecraft-Complete-Fiction-H/dp/1435122968/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1369632933&sr=8-2&keywords=complete+lovecraft

>> No.3795050

>>3795043
Alright thanks.
B&N is out of the question anyway since i live in germany

>> No.3795059

>>3795050
Ah, sorry. I was just suggesting the edition as it's the only complete collection of his stories I'm aware of. Most are missing some, this simply lacks his poetry which, you won't really miss.

Hope you enjoy it.

>> No.3795628

Bump.

>> No.3795644

Ligotti being brought up a lot.

Where can I download or find a decently priced copy of I have a Special Plan for This World?

>> No.3795686

>>3795644

http://www.mediafire.com/?d41e1j65ej2wt45

>> No.3795696

>>3795686
>pdf

Wait, I thought it was an EP with Current 93?

Not to sound ungrateful, thank you, but you wouldn't happen to have the music would you?

>> No.3795700

>>3795696
It's both. The music is on YT if you want it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxZpEFJhO6k
I'm sure you can find a website that'll let you download it from yt.

>> No.3795711

>>3795644
>>3795686

Ok, this one is a bit tricky.

That's the poem titled "i have a special plan for this world", which was performed by Current 93 (David Tibet is friends with Ligotti) and as far as I know it hasn't been published anywhere. This transcription floats around at lyrics websites and the like but it has a few errors. I can tell because of a specific line near the end: "but the moment of consumate disaster my puppets turn to face the puppet master". It's actually "the moment of consumate disaster when puppets turn to face the puppet master." So it's good to have a general idea but it's better to hear it.

You can hear the recording on youtube, or download it from any torrent that collects C93's discography. I know there's one on The Pirate Bay. While you're at it make sure you also get "this degenerate little town", another poem with music, only this time it is actually Thomas Ligotti's voice you'll hear. I have no idea how much it'd cost to get the actual oreirecords nowadays.

Oh, speaking of Ligotti and C93... they have yet another release titled In a Foreign Town, in a Foreign Land. The best way to describe it is as background music to read the four-part story of the same name that Ligotti wrote. They were published in a small chapbook, and later included in Teatro Grottesco.

Then there's an actual story titled "i have a special plan for this world" which has been published twice: in The Mammoth Book of Best New Horror #12 (2001) and Ligotti's own My Work Is Not Yet Done. It bears no relation to the poem outside off having the same title (it's about a company that relocates to a town that is particularly foggy, and someone starts murdering management-level members of the company, and the murders appear to make the town even foggier).

My Work Is Not Yet Done is available for the kindle at Amazon. Costs $10, so that's relatively cheap.

>> No.3795725

>>3795711
>or download it from any torrent that collects C93's discography. I know there's one on The Pirate Bay

There isn't actually, because I would be interested to grab this, or at least all the Ligotti albums.

And with Demonoid gone, I don't actually have an alternative site for music.

I'm going to try to buy his books that I can find, but the Current 93 albums get rather expensive, Plan for This World is $130 on Amazon, hence my seeking a download.

I don't see Foreign Town either, which I'd love to have for that purpose.

Thank you for all the information.

>> No.3795741

>>3795725

Hm. I think you're right. I may have downloaded the tracks off soulseek, then. Let me see if I can find some actual links.

In the meantime, have this: http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/4834203/Current_93_and_Thomas_Ligotti_-_Unholy_City_%282003%29

To be honest I don't know if Current 93 had actually anything to do with this (from what I understand, Ligotti did all the recording himself at his home, but maybe he had some help. It's hard to tell when there's no credits booklet even in the official release). It's a cycle of poems over music that goes from acoustic ballad to Nine-Inch-Nails type noise. Interesting stuff.

>> No.3795750

>>3795725
>You will never get a what.cd invite
Everytime I'm forced to use TPB, I feel that ache in my heart left from the demise of Demonoid.

>> No.3795761

>>3795741
Funnily enough, I just finished getting that.

Thank you though, hoping you find something.

>>3795750
>You will never get a what.cd invite

Don't fucking remind me.

Bit of a prog guy, into weird genres, can never fucking find anything I want.

>> No.3795850

>>3795741
Went to /mu/ and someone posted a guide for rutracker, got Foreign and Special Plan.

Thank you for all your help though. Sorry if you wasted time on this.

>> No.3795860

>>3795696

Didn't realize that's what you wanted.

Give me a sec to upload.

>> No.3795865

>>3795860
It's fine, and don't bother, see >>3795850

Thank you though.

And I did grab the pdf, thank you for that as well.

>> No.3795871

>>3795860
Though if you have any pdfs of his books that aren't Teatro or Noctuary you'd like to share, that'd be more than welcome.

>> No.3795880

>>3795871

pdfs I have are scans and larger than mediafire's cap. What are kids using these days to share. I'm out of the loop.

>> No.3795883

>>3795880

p.s. not interested in making a torrent.

>> No.3795890

>>3795880

What books are those pdfs?

>> No.3795891

>>3795880
Mediafire and the new version of megaupload that I don't remember the name of are the only things I know of.

>>3795883
I assumed, and that's fine. You're doing me the favor here, I wouldn't ask more of you than you're willing to do.

>> No.3795899

>>3795891

Nevermind. I misread file size

Grimscribe
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dyi4phwb1c2e2z2/Thomas_Ligotti_-_Grimscribe.pdf

Shadow at the Bottom of the World
http://www.mediafire.com/download/c9c9lbudqt764dy/Thomas_Ligotti_-_The_Shadow_at_the_Bottom_of_the_World.pdf

>> No.3795904

>>3795899
Thank you.

Very appreciated.

>> No.3795912

do you guys epub?

>grimscribe
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kvu9fexv1qs93m

>songs of a dead dreamer
http://www.mediafire.com/?jyg6ffizzyfepyl

>> No.3795913

>>3795904

Welcome. Someone else did it for me once and paying forward.

>> No.3796083

As a huge fan of cosmic horror and has read everything suggested in this thread, but haven't read any other forms of horror, or regular horror.

What would you suggest?

>> No.3796149

>>3796083

Naomi's Room, Jonathan Aycliffe
The Cipher, Kathe Koja
Wasp Factory, Ian Banks
Off Season, Jack Ketchum

>> No.3796151

>>3796083
House of Leaves

>> No.3796168

>>3796151
>tryhards at it again

>> No.3796175

>>3796149
>>3796151
Alright.

>> No.3796185

>>3796168
But I actually like House of Leaves. Reminds me of http://www.dionaea-house.com/

>> No.3796187

>>3796151
Not knowing anything about the book, what is with the hard on for it here?

And the hatred? Such as >>3796168

>> No.3796193

>>3796187
It's gimicky. Tilted text, odd coloured fonts, obnoxious fanbase, etc. Also, it's pretty popular.

>> No.3796197

>>3796193
Okay, but is it well written, is it actually any good?

>> No.3796201

>>3796197
It's been quite a while since I read it, but I thought it was quite good, yes.

>> No.3796223

>>3796197

Like most "cult" books or films, it is good but not quite good enough to justify its reputation.

It deserves praise for doing something new, for being genuinely unsettling in parts, and for being impossible to read in electronic format.

>> No.3796240

>>3796223
>Trying to read the tilted text on a computer screen
Didn't stop me from finishing it, though I would definitely not recommend it.

>> No.3796243

>>3796223
>>3796240
I grabbed the .pdf for my Nook

This will be an issue?

>> No.3796251

>>3796243

I guess "impossible" is the wrong choice of words. I didn't know it even existed in pdf but not reading the hard copy defeats the purpose of experiencing the book (and its horrors) as a tangible, interactive document.

>> No.3796254

>>3796243

Hm. Not much, really. You'll have to turn your nook around to read it, but that's easy compared to trying to rotate a monitor screen.

>> No.3796258

>>3796254
>ctrl+arrow key in whatever direction

Unless, you're on a laptop?

>> No.3796362

>>3796243
>Nook

>> No.3796677

I don't see it posted yet...but Space Eldritch. Haven't actually read it yet it may be up your alley OP

>> No.3796845

>>3796677
Looks to have potential, will check it out, thanks.

>> No.3796887

the most famous non- lovecraft book in this style is King's IT

>> No.3796940

>>3796887
Really?

>> No.3797140

>>3796940
No. It is widely regarded as one of King's worse books.

>> No.3797155

I read William Hope Hodgson and it was like Lovecraft but better, at least in my opinion

"The house in the borderland" was crazy awesome, better than all Lovecraft

Only good thing I've read about Lovecraft is "The dream-quest search of Kadath" and just because he uses all of his themes in one single story, it's like reading all his other shit at once

>> No.3797324

>>3797155
That was my favorite book until I read Dunsany and learned how derivative it was. It's not all that bad, but the sentence-structure was my favorite parts.
Either way, the story is great and its a rare glimpse at how Lovecraft had a sense of humor at times.

>> No.3797466

>>3797155
Everyone says the same of Robert E. Howard.

>> No.3797501

>>3797466
No one has ever said that.

>> No.3797682

>>3797501
Yeah, they have.

>> No.3797786

What is cosmic horror?

>> No.3798048

>>3797786

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CosmicHorrorStory

>> No.3798057

>>3797466
I'm pretty sure not a single person has ever claimed that of Robert Howard. They didn't even write the same kind of pulp.

>> No.3798076

Mark Samuels - He writes weird fiction and one of his favourites themes is "language is a virus", but he's written a couple of cosmic horror tales. Most notably The Black Mould, which probably takes the subgenre to its ultimate, logical conclusion. It's included in his book The Man Who Collected Machen.

Matt Cardin - Utterly Lovecraftian in spirit, but not so in style. Also somewhat Ligottian. I guess his most cosmic story would be Judas of the Infinite, from his book Divinations of the Deep.

>> No.3798097

>>3798076

Oh, also

>What are your favorite stories?
The Music of Erich Zann by Lovecraft, The Events at Poroth Farm by T.E.D. Klein, The Voice of the Beach by Ramsey Campbell, Nethescurial by Thomas Ligotti

>What do you like or dislike about the genre?
Dislike, probably its relative predictability. Much like with how in Lovecraftian pastiches the moment they namedrop Innsmouth or Arkham or Dunwich or Pickman or whatever and you already know where things are heading, cosmic horror seems to be bound to the same set of variables and it takes a really skillful and ingenious writer to succesfully pull a good story.

>> No.3798793

>>3798057
You are unaware that he not only wrote in the mythos, but that he wrote cosmic horror stories?

>> No.3798800

The big deal about lovecraft and cosmic horror is that they dethroned the devil.

Up till lovecraft, we had the devil, (christian evil) we had Machen (pagan evil) we had Chambers (foreign evil) and we had Wells, Shelley, etc (tamperinig in gods domain--scientific evil) throw in human evil and you pretty much had run the gamut.

Lovecraft gave us a basis for horror that had nothing to do with the supernatural or the human. It was a biological evil that came from the depths of time or the depths of space or both, and either used us for its own purposes or ignored us completely. A very indifferent evil. That's his main contribution to the genre, I think.

>> No.3798821
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3798821

>>3784657

AHEM

>> No.3799084

>>3798800
I am unfamiliar with Chamebers, but your other points seem correct to me.

>> No.3799086

>>3798076
Thank you for these.

>> No.3799484

>>3798097
>seems to be bound to the same set of variables
I don't think that's necessarily true, it's just hard to come up with a story that doesn't have someone stumbling into something or finding a book or whatever that leads them somewhere, as we're always talking about something beyond our understanding of logic, or how the universe operates.

It's not so much that it requires those variables, it's just much easier to have them.

And even then, it's rather difficult to write these stories well, I'd imagine.

>> No.3800084

No, apparently not.

>> No.3800503

>>3800084
Not true, if you're replying to the OP anyway.

>> No.3800507

Read "Skippy Dies" just do it. I liked it a lot.

>> No.3800692 [DELETED] 

It was in here Nemo's Heart of Ice was recommended right?

Alan Moore's In the Mountains of Madness?

If so, or if someone here has at least read it, what the fuck?

Is it skipping around because the way time functions or am I just that bad with characters.

This is pretty incomprehensible, in a good way I guess... But just wanted to make sure I'm on track.

>> No.3800726

>ctrl f stross
>ctrl f watts
>not found

Read Blindsight and A Colder War.

>> No.3800732

>>3800726
Thank you.

>> No.3800754

>>3785736
That's a weird way to write The Rates in the Walls.

dat Nigger Man[/spoilerman]

>> No.3800757

>>3800754
Rats, even.

>> No.3800767

>>3800754
>Nigger Man

Isn't this a cat?

Haven't read Rats yet.

>> No.3800934

>John Dies at the End, and that was fucking terrible.

Full fucking agreed.

>> No.3801164

>>3800767
What?

>> No.3802614

>>3800754
That's a weird way to write rats.

>> No.3802693

>people liking Erich Zann more than Pikmin near me

The fuck is this shit?

You a bunch of fish men or something?

>> No.3803330

>>3802693
>people having different taste

OH NO

>> No.3803866

>>3798821
This is the dumbest picture on all of 4chan.

>> No.3804280

Southern Gods
Mythago Woods
King in Yellow

>> No.3804305

>>3801164
Nigger Man was the name of Lovecraft's cat.

>> No.3804563

The Man Who Was Thursday.

>> No.3804619

>>3804563
Michael Collins is dead

>> No.3804626
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3804626

>>3803866

>> No.3804645

There aren't enough stories with an antagonist that's a giant fucking god. The closest we get is God, but He's overused. I want something with an image. Something huge and powerful as fuck all.

>> No.3804676

>>3804645
A lot of non-Lovecraft stuff shows the "gods".

Those things are usually not as well written though.

Look at John Dies, no only is that book fucking terrible, but we get to see the god, and literally everything it says is a dick joke.

>> No.3804700

>>3804626
I cannot fucking stand how curb your enthuisasm is filmed. is it supposed to be some sort of joke? it matches their hybrid cars and ethnic groceries but in the most grating way. just look at the gif, his head's like a fucking orange.

>> No.3804701

>>3804645
>>3804676
Norman Mailer's Ancient Evenings is sincerely my favorite literary depiction of God(s), take a look.

>> No.3804716

>>3804700
I have absolutely no idea what you mean.
His head is like an orange, like you mean the lighting? Or just the natural shape of his skull?

>> No.3804726

I want to right a book about one of the two following things:
A) Gods before any real other sentient life has been created and most of the universe is empty
B) A few humans who somehow become immortal. Over time, they grow vain and start acting like and seeing themselves as gods, though they for the most part aren't known to the public.

What do you guys think?

>> No.3804728

>>3804726
B is Rant by Palahniuk

>> No.3804731

>>3804728
>Rant is told in the form of an oral biography. When the story begins, the reader discovers that the main character, Buster Landru "Rant" Casey, is already deceased. Throughout the book various people discuss their memories of Buster and the world he lived in, presenting stories in an occasionally conflicting timeline.

I don't see that, even slightly.

>> No.3804737

>>3804731
Read the book, you'll see. Just trust me on this.

>> No.3804744

>>3804737
Could you at least explain your claim? I'd like to read as little Palahniuk as possible.

>> No.3804766

>>3804744
It would ruin the book. But fine.

The thing they're doing, the crashing the cars bit is actually somehow to fling themselves into the past. If you kill your parents before you're born you become immortal because you don't have a beginning and thus, no end. Some guys go back and rape their mothers or some shit to become genetic superhumans by being their own fathers and they basically run around doing whatever the fuck they want because they cease to exist for the rest of the world.

>> No.3804788

>>3804645
The Rings of Akhaten

>> No.3804805
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3804805

I hear Ludwig Prinn's old books are pretty good.

>> No.3805165

>>3804731
He is right actually, being someone else unfortunate enough to have read some Palahniuk.

>> No.3805177

>>3804726
>I want to right a book

>> No.3805363

>>3805177
I was really tired.

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3805683

OP here.

Couldn't find King in Yellow (Teatro Grotesco not pictured) and Pan and Thursday are utter shit tier paperbacks, but hopefully this will hold for a bit. (also picked up Gravity's Rainbow and Infinite Jest, not having read Pynchon or Wallace before.)

Thanks guys.

>> No.3805922

>>3805683
>can't find King in Yellow
You won't find it at bookstores because it's in the public domain, so most won't bother carrying it. You'd have to either order it online, or just download it.

>> No.3805960

>>3805922
Yeah, I plan to just grab it off Amazon.

>> No.3806582

>>3805960
>Amazon

>> No.3807194

If you're looking for any movies; Cabin in the Woods is fucking great and is cosmic horror.

>> No.3809501

Is journalistic horror considered part of cosmic horror?

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/natalee-holloway-murder-suspect-marry-peru-prison-184419111.html

>> No.3810593

A Song of Ice and Fire has some elements. Sort of.

There is a Viking culture that worships Cthulhu.

>> No.3810599

>>3805960
They had it at my library and I live in a pretty small town in the south. I assume you can find a copy at yours.

>> No.3810608

>>3810593
They worship Dagon, not Cthulhu. Also, there's barely anything you could call Cosmic Horror in ASOIAF. I don't really know why you felt the need to bring it up.

>> No.3810648

>>3810608
>drowned god
>what is dead may never die

>not Chtulhu

>> No.3810654

>>3810599
I live in a small town in Virginia can't even find it in larger cities, as said, will just get it off Amazon any way.

>> No.3810675

>>3810669
>How did you manage to have a 300 post thread on Cosmic Horror and alternatives to Lovecraft without mentioning the prime mythos influenced writer in the genre today?

Because shitposting and someone really kind posting about Ligotti.

Will look into this though, thank you.

Bonus points for Twin Peaks.