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3778532 No.3778532 [Reply] [Original]

>violence
>ever
What are you, some kind of idiot pleb?

>> No.3778543

>Act 1= introduction
>act 2=problem
>act 3=solution (more likely that not involves conflict)
If you want to succeed you got to follow the formula. Get rich first than do your own thing

>> No.3778549
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3778549

>mfw plebs think they have the "right" to "self-defense"

>> No.3778579

Check your middle class privilege.

>> No.3778581

The violence/non-violence dichotomy is problematic because the very act of being alive is perpetual murder.

>> No.3778588

>>3778581
inb4 speciecist scum btw

>> No.3778593

Violence never solved anything, except World War II, you fucking Nazi piece of scum

>> No.3778595

>>3778532
survival of the fittest

>> No.3778603

>>3778595
>Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of Warre, where every man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them withall. In such condition, there is no place for Industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continuall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short.

>> No.3778606

>>3778603
I dunno what you just said but it's wrong.

>> No.3778609

>>3778603
Hobbes still believed in violent means between states however you idiot.

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>>3778603
whoops, forgot pic

>> No.3778615

>>3778595
this makes no sense at all

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3778613

are you?

>> No.3778624

>>3778614
I've never understood the significance of their names.

>> No.3778871

Damn it /lit/ you get lamer and lamer every day.

>> No.3778984
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3778984

mfw

>> No.3778992

>>3778593
>violence solved problems started by violence

>> No.3779352

>>3778992
>implying the first violence wasn't started by something non-violent

Your move.

>> No.3779405

You guys realize that the entire fundament of society is laid on extreme violence. Without violence their would be no laws. Without violence their would be no treaties. Without violence their would be no innovation.

There are few things in man that are so deeply connected toward progress, and that we are indebted to, such as violence.

If we we're a race, without violence and enemies, where would we have been now? Have a look at the species inhabiting Australia. Isolated and fragile.

Only a pleb would think that violence is something determined as either bad or good. I guess it's one of those things you learn growing up, discovering the world for what it is.

>> No.3779435

>>3779405
>Have a look at the species inhabiting Australia. Isolated and fragile.
dats racist

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>>3778581
>being alive is perpetual murder

/lit/ has taught me it's better not to ask

>> No.3779466

>>3779459
I'll answer anyway. (Almost) all lifeforms live by feeding off and competing with other lifeforms. Even as we speak our bodies are fighting off microorganisms. You devour plants and animals and not only do you eat them, but by eating them another person can't eat them. Life is inherently cannibalistic, when you try to be thorough in your non-violence you end up like the Jains who starve themselves to death, but even they take out life by doing so. It's an unmanageable ideal to do no harm.

Why of course you can set a standard of an arbitrary amount of violence permitted, I'd say it would be more reasonable to dismiss the whole dichotomy as false and judge acts and ideals by other factors than the level of violence involved. Trying to be non-violent is like trying to be non-warm.

>> No.3779755

>>3778532

>never feeling the satisfaction of punching a douchebag in the face and leaving with his girl

must be some tough feels