ITT: books you tried to read but gave up on

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Anonymous Mon May 20 04:57:54 2013 No.3776255 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: books you tried to read but gave up on

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 05:11:54 2013 No.3776278 >>3776255 Its bearable if its a analysis of it where he's constantly being bashed.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 05:12:54 2013 No.3776280 File: 105 KB, 600x600, jules.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776278 >>a analysis

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 05:13:54 2013 No.3776282 >>3776280 ENGLISH, MOTHER FUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 06:37:54 2013 No.3776361 File: 102 KB, 519x640, Zc9YDl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't make it past the cover.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 06:44:54 2013 No.3776366 >>3776361 Hahahaha. Hahahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 06:52:54 2013 No.3776373 File: 15 KB, 259x400, trainspotting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The heavy dialect written in was too much for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 16:16:54 2013 No.3777399 >>3776373 there's an 'english' version for faggots as well i believe

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RomanianRichard Mon May 20 16:27:55 2013 No.3777424
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I'm having trouble getting through Myth of the Machine: Technics and Human Development.

It's a very textbook styled read. Not quit what I was expecting. Haven't given up on it yet.

Pic related was fucking atrocious though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 16:30:54 2013 No.3777430 Don Quixote. too much repetition for my plebish mind.

>>	satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 16:31:54 2013 No.3777434 >>3776373 lel, sounds like ye cannae intae pin pint reallisms, kill yirsell

>>	RomanianRichard Mon May 20 16:33:55 2013 No.3777439 >>3777434 Is that how trainspotting is written? Imma have to pick up this book soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 16:35:54 2013 No.3777442 File: 29 KB, 244x252, photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776255 was thinking about reading this.. what are some reasons not to?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 16:36:54 2013 No.3777445 File: 387 KB, 409x634, Screen Shot 2013-05-20 at 3.35.45 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 16:38:54 2013 No.3777453 >>3777442 lmao.. too lazy to talk yourself out of reading an easy-mode book to you want us to talk you out of it? It is a good book.. therefore read it.

>>	satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 16:44:54 2013 No.3777471 >>3777439 yeah some parts are in hardcore scots dialect. his short stories are also great. here's one of my favorites: http://www.barcelonareview.com/eng/eng14.htm a commentary on familial degeneration; black humor at it's finest

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 16:46:54 2013 No.3777475 The Black Company by Glen Cook. I honestly can't believe this trash is so highly rated on GoodReads, Amazon, etc. I just couldn't take it anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 16:47:54 2013 No.3777481 Like everyone else on /lit/, The Ambassadors.

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 17:32:15 2013 No.3777647 >>3777453 Lol am I too lazy to NOT read? lol the fuck? nah I was going to read it but a prior post said it sucks. if you say it's a good book then I'll read it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 17:34:14 2013 No.3777653 Jane Eyre, Black Boy, and Of Mice and Men are the only ones that came to mind. I'll probably revisit the last one but can say quite confidently that the first two were terrible

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 17:35:14 2013 No.3777656 >>3777471 >Some parts The entire book is in hardcore Scottish.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 17:36:15 2013 No.3777661 >>3777442 You can read it, fine, but it's not something you'd want to get caught reading. It'd almost be as bad as being caught with an Ayn Rand book.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 17:48:14 2013 No.3777688 The Name of the Rose bored me to death some time ago, altough I'm thinking about retrying it, someday.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 17:50:14 2013 No.3777700 Faust: The Second Part of the Tragedy

Anonymous Mon May 20 17:54:14 2013 No.3777710

>>3777688

You might like Foucalt's Pendulum better if you found The Name of the Rose boring. Same author though.

As for me, I couldn't finish "How to Read Literature like a Professor" by Joseph Campbell. I felt like it was just so damn pointless, when it comes to interpretation it's ultimately up to the individual, it's not really something you can learn to do.

>>	satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 17:57:14 2013 No.3777722 >>3777656 except that it's not. hardcore i'd consider that short story i posted above, or parts in trainspotting where Begbie is speaking. the narration is fairly normal.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:05:14 2013 No.3777749 File: 31 KB, 200x292, Oldmansea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I started when I was 9 years old. I will never finish it because that

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:07:14 2013 No.3777757 >>3777749 gay ending

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:09:15 2013 No.3777767 >>3777445 recently bought the idiot. why could you not finish it? have you read and enjoyed other dostoyevsky? I have not by the way. I bought c+p at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:10:14 2013 No.3777773 >>3777757 >implying

Anonymous Mon May 20 18:11:14 2013 No.3777775

>>3777710

What about Discipline and Punish?

The first chapter almost made me quit, but I've trudged through - will start the second chapter tonight, but goddamn. So many things could be stated in simpler terms, maybe the translation messed it up a little, but it's been pretty thick and dry.

>>	Anonymouse Mon May 20 18:12:15 2013 No.3777787 Joan Didion is better than DFW get.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:14:15 2013 No.3777793 >>3777777

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:23:14 2013 No.3777831 Gormenghast. Jesus christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:26:14 2013 No.3777841 >>3777722 Stanford, have you also read Skagboys and Porno? Good times. Spud is also a great character with his whole catlife ideolect.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:28:14 2013 No.3777848 >>3777471 >So ah thinks tae masel, mibee no too bad an idea but. fucking lel

Anonymous Mon May 20 18:31:15 2013 No.3777853

>>3777775
Discipline and Punish is one of Foucault's easier books. Not to mention the fact that it has the most attention-grabbing introductory paragraph in the history of academic writing that even the most casual peruser of literature could appreciate.

Especially in regards to the opening chapter, I found the work pretty breezy and easy to read. But I only read Foucault after trudging through Derrida's Writing and Difference, so it could be that I'm used to French academic writing and its stylistic idiosyncrasies.

Anonymous Mon May 20 18:37:14 2013 No.3777882
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I'm just too pleb to really get what the big deal is, I guess. Everyone raves about the windmill bit and it was only like a page and a half long and nowhere near as funny as it's raved to be.

Anonymous Mon May 20 18:40:14 2013 No.3777890

>>3777853

Most of the shit I've been reading this semester has been scholarly articles, primarily from studies at American universities (just graduated). Compared to that form of "academic writing," I consider Discipline and Punish to be... eh, like almost pretentious. Like "Your intelligence/reading comprehension/vocabulary must be this tall to ride." The language could be simpler, which I think would help me read it faster and retain the concepts better. Of course I've only read the first chapter, and I'm hopeful that things will smooth out.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 18:57:14 2013 No.3777927 I couldn't finish it. Way to advanced for me. I mean, how the hell does a cat in a hat even work amiright?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:01:14 2013 No.3777938 >>3777471 Can anyone tell me what the fuck on going on in that story?

railroad Mon May 20 19:02:15 2013 No.3777943

>>3777661
On the subject of Ayn Rand: I picked up Atlas Shrugged at my local library (oh, the irony), and I couldn't get past the first 10 pages. I just expected a hodgepodge of fedora atheism and materialism out the wazoo. Some context: I am a non-religious/non-spiritual minarchist (former protestant and former democrat.)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:05:15 2013 No.3777952 On the Road Boring as fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:14:14 2013 No.3777976 >>3777471 my fuckin sides have evaporated mate. that's the funniest thing i've read in a while.that poor woman.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:27:14 2013 No.3778008 The God Delusion It was such masturbation over tired atheist arguments and required the same leaps in logic religious people use. I could hear people fapping into fedoras while I read it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:29:14 2013 No.3778015 >>3777442 Because Hitler is a fucking terrible writer. Great public speaker. Terrible writer. He complained about his daddy didn't hug him enough one page then bitched about art college another.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:40:14 2013 No.3778049 >>3778008 I think at this point it's more fedora-tier to castigate The God Delusion than enjoy it. Why don't we just stop talking about that pedestrian book.

>>	Adult Z !!t94vbIeQJUW Mon May 20 19:41:14 2013 No.3778054 >>3777471 Toppest lel i've had all week.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:42:14 2013 No.3778058 File: 12 KB, 195x259, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haven't quite given up on it but after three months I've only gotten through the first volume (about 500 pages).

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:44:14 2013 No.3778059 >>3777471 Is he even writing in English? If Scottish literature continues this way it's about a century from being recognized as a unique language.

Anonymous Mon May 20 19:45:15 2013 No.3778062

>ringworld
>discworld

I don't know why, but both of these books were goddamned impossible for me to get into.

>I used to think I liked science fiction and fantasy.
>Turns out only like it when it's in a movie or a video games.

Literary fiction is always the best to read.
>you know it's true.

>>	Adult Z !!t94vbIeQJUW Mon May 20 19:52:14 2013 No.3778081 >>3778059 It's basically phonetic Scottish that's heavy on slang. Once you acclimatise to the style it's actually quite endearing. If English isn't your first language though then you have my most sincere sympathy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 19:56:15 2013 No.3778097 >>3778062 Maybe the problem is that you choose to read shitty fantasy and science fiction. Hint: stop listening to /lit/, this board is clueless about genre fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 20:10:14 2013 No.3778146 Before I started reading Trainspotting, I knew it was phonetic scots and I figured "oh this can't be so bad" and I read the first two pages and gave up. Then I went back and read the whole thing plus Porno and Skagboys.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 20:12:14 2013 No.3778151 File: 114 KB, 480x822, atlas shrugged.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I dont know how anyone finishes. Its so long winded and not very exciting.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 20:15:14 2013 No.3778160 >>3778151 It validates people looking for a carte-blanche to be a colossal douchebag

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 20:16:14 2013 No.3778161 >>3778081 English isn't my first language and I greatly enjoy the way Welsh writes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 20:22:14 2013 No.3778177 >>3778160 I thought it had good ideas and gave a different perspective on things. The writing (AWFUL dialog) and how long it was are what caused me to throw it down in frustration. It was very prophetic though. Almost disturbingly so.

satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 21:11:14 2013 No.3778294

>>3777938

dude wants to watch a soccer match that starts at two (hibs fuckin hertz, hibernian vs hearts) but his wife wants to go down to the pub so that they can take out the bairns (their kids) on sech a rerr dey. so they go down to the pub and proceed to get shitfaced. the wife gets especially shitfaced afterwhich they start to make their way back to the house so that dude can catch his soccer game. he decides to take a shortcut through the train station, and tells his family to jump down onto the tracks so they can get to the other side. the wife objects because she's afraid a train might come but dude tells her that the train doesn't arrive for 5 more minutes and basically forces them to do it.the kids make it across but his wife is too fat and drunk so as he's trying to pull her onto the platform from the tracks the train comes and hits her, ripping out her legs.
he makes his little daughter pick up her mom's legs and threatens to stomp his wife if she doesn't stop swearing at him.
ambulance comes and instead of giving a single shit about his bleeding-to-death wife, he's worried that he'll miss the game and goes on to wrestle with the idea of sex with her leg-less.
he says he'll dump her if she doesn't put out or if she doesn't keep doing the house chores, because the way he sees it "it was her ain fuckin fault" for wanting to go to the pub in the first place.

>>3777841
haven't picked skagboys yet, been meaning to

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 21:14:14 2013 No.3778301 >>3777722 Hmm Well, I remember it being heavily Scottish throughout, but it's been five years or so. I've been meaning to trudge through it completely some time soon, since it's silly to own a book and not read it. I guess I'll see.

>>	satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 21:17:14 2013 No.3778308 >>3778294 2/3 of the hilarity comes from his awesomely crass dialectic and destructively nihilistic inner monologues, so me giving you a summary is a big injustice.

Anonymous Mon May 20 21:19:15 2013 No.3778315

For me, personally, it is/was "Crime and Punishment."

It was the only Dostoyvesky they had at my library. I would soon like to find other books by him and see if I like them.

"Atlas Shrugged" (although I'm an agorist) and "Don Quixote" I really like, but I have yet to finish simply because I lack the time to do so.

However, summer break begins tomorrow, so I should be able to at least start them again.

There are also numerous (such as The Wheel of Time series and the Harry Potter books) which I thoroughly enjoyed, I just kept losing interest in them and forgetting where I was at after extended periods of absence from them.

satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 21:23:15 2013 No.3778324

>>3778301

i mean youre not wrong. it is scottish, in a lot of parts the dialect is very heave. but it's not as such throughout. most of the book is rather accessible to most:

>Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life… But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin’ else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you’ve got heroin?”

>>	satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 21:27:14 2013 No.3778332 >>3778324 whoops that was from the "English" version. Replace "pissing" with "pishing"; that's about it. Still very accessible. compare that to Fault in the Line.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 21:30:14 2013 No.3778339 Are there also non-alcoholics (who are not drug addicts) in Scotland?

>>	satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 21:35:15 2013 No.3778349 >>3778339 idk probably and you're entirely missing the artform's fucking essence you knob

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 21:36:14 2013 No.3778350 >>3778349 Really though, are you scottish?

>>	satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 Mon May 20 21:40:14 2013 No.3778360 File: 339 KB, 1024x768, 1367212548647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778350 ays frim fucken Albany ya radge cunt bairn tae Dutch and Cuban parents, raised in Miami.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:06:14 2013 No.3778421 >>3778360 I like how you saved that pic.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:16:14 2013 No.3778447 File: 35 KB, 313x475, 18517.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Horrendously repetitive, uninspired prose and the most obnoxious characters.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:18:14 2013 No.3778450 File: 12 KB, 182x277, fleeced.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really didn't like how it was written. Just seemed like /pol/ redpilling to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:18:14 2013 No.3778451 >>3777475 I know man. That shit was so uninspired....

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:19:14 2013 No.3778454 File: 280 KB, 1024x768, 20130311_165256.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:22:14 2013 No.3778467 >>3778447 Oh lord I still remember from high school. I just couldn't keep reading, not even half way through. I had to bs the essays we were to write on it. My friend's theory is that Woolf appeals more to women as Joyce appeals to men.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:24:14 2013 No.3778475 >>3778360 Really? I always imagined myself being the only person in the 305 who goes on /lit/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:31:14 2013 No.3778493 >>3778454 this bookshelf makes me feel good inside

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:46:14 2013 No.3778531 >>3778447 "uninspired prose" thick, solid, great choice for criticizing a book you didn't read i also didn't read to the lighthouse. i found it to have "not good symbolism" and "unsatisfactory themes".

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 22:59:15 2013 No.3778570 >>3778531 Half of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 20 23:11:14 2013 No.3778602 >>3776255 I'm reading that now actually. It was interesting up until page 50 or so when he starts ranting incoherently on Social Democracy. I'm hoping he stops soon because this is just stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 00:11:14 2013 No.3778738 >>3778454 I'm contemplating cracking open Mason & Dixon. No-go?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 03:34:15 2013 No.3779038 >>3778738 I wouldn't know. I gave up on it like 15 pages in. >>3778493 Ha, why?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 03:35:15 2013 No.3779040 >>3778454 >Infinite Jest >Scotch tape on the spine. >unread

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 03:38:14 2013 No.3779042 >>3778454 Anyone read Saramago? I was thinking of picking up Blindness or something like that, is he good?

Anonymous Tue May 21 04:07:14 2013 No.3779071

>>3779042
I've only read Death With Interruptions but I have to say I really really enjoyed his personification of death. Though with the specific book I was hoping for more of Death and her love-story than of the awkward mildly absurd parody that takes up the majority of the bok.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 04:25:14 2013 No.3779084 >>3778454 >litcore: the library I could never get through "Snow" by Orhan Pamuk. I tried reading that book three times.

Anonymous Tue May 21 04:26:14 2013 No.3779086

>>3776255
This one, thee times.
Las Obras Completas de Julio Cortazar (the guy likes to go on tangents for whole pages then go back to what he was saying, which means constantly going back to see what was he saying before)
A self-help/yoga/zen book of my sister, which I started reading out of boredom (no internet, no other books, no tv, no radio). I put it down a quarter hour latter, more bored than before.
There are other books which I have “on hold”. It's not that I don't want to finish reading them as much as I have better things to do and other book genres and authors which interest me more.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 04:30:14 2013 No.3779092 File: 48 KB, 540x370, jd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777787 tfw no qt corvette intellectual gf.

Anonymous Tue May 21 05:41:15 2013 No.3779146

>>3776255
I actually enjoyed Mein Kampf, it's not just a manifest of his party, but it shows reasons why Germans supported crazy rebuilding of an army, his ideas and why were they looking for enemies amongst themselves. He's far from crazy person, I admire him because he stands for what he believes to be right.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 05:49:15 2013 No.3779150 >>3779092 Would ride.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 06:14:14 2013 No.3779163 >>3779146 >>>/pol/

Anonymous Tue May 21 06:19:15 2013 No.3779170

>>3777700
Oh God, this. Faust I was God-tier writing, I don't know what the fuck made Goethe think that slapping together a shitload of allusions into some chaotic mess was a good thing. Something may have been lost in the version of the translation I read, but it was still just awful and came off as 2edgy6me.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 06:27:14 2013 No.3779180 Naked Lunch. Too fucking difficult to understand what was going on or when you did it was violent homoerotic content that just made me uncomfortable reading it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 06:30:14 2013 No.3779186 For whom the bell tolls. It was just to dry. Eh, Ingles?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 06:35:15 2013 No.3779193 >>3778059 It was a unique language, but it's becoming more and more similar to English. You guys should try reading Orcadian. It's like highland Scots with a little Scandinavian.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 06:59:14 2013 No.3779219 File: 6 KB, 223x226, index.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thus Zarathustra Spoke. Two months ago this stupid guy gave me panic attacks one after another. Still 50 pages remain.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:00:14 2013 No.3779222 File: 114 KB, 400x565, nietzsche.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779219 Good, good. It means it is working.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:03:14 2013 No.3779224 >>3779222 I realized that. Scary shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:15:14 2013 No.3779236 >>3779146 And then he fucked up everything because he was a shitty military leader that rather shot himself then fought to the bitter end.

Anonymous Tue May 21 07:29:14 2013 No.3779249

>>3779146
>hitler
>actually believing the retoric he flung at the plebs
>not merely being the next in the honorable pan-european tradition of caesar and napoleon and others
>not one of the people with a vision for a united europe
>not seeing that the antisemite and nationalist ideas were merely means to an end

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:32:14 2013 No.3779251 File: 33 KB, 324x400, iphone-4-skin-23661.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779219 >tfw revaluating all values

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:32:14 2013 No.3779252 >>3779236 Yeah, a coward, just like all the stormfags and polscum mullets who worship him.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:35:15 2013 No.3779254 >>3779252 i really... i mean i like that you use the word "mullet" because it identifies you but your anti/pol/fagging is really counterproductive you're a very insecure individual

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:39:14 2013 No.3779259 >>3779254 >>>/pol/

Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 07:45:15 2013 No.3779264 [DELETED]

>>3779252
Suicide isn't cowardice, suicide is what people believe is a means to an end. When people kill themselves half the time it's not because they were too weak, it's because they were no longer able to cope, psychologically. The human mind is very tough, but it can be broken and once it does, logic breaks down with it.

Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is an amazing work of political literature, not in writing but in the message. His chapters on secret services and the SS are very interesting and logical. Fight to a bitter end? He has fought in war before, he knew the repercussions of taking his chances at being captured. He risked is life many times before and won many medals. he was not a coward, he was just a man that was a lot more intelligent than you and that ignites your inferiority complex.

No, I'm not white and no, I'm not a nazi.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:47:15 2013 No.3779268 File: 263 KB, 500x257, bale1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779264 >>No, I'm not white and no, I'm not a nazi. Then, you're a douchebag.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:47:15 2013 No.3779270 "He [Hitler] was at once everyone's enemy and everyone's friend: his programme of contradictory principles could succeed only in a community which had already lost all unity and self-confidence."

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 07:51:14 2013 No.3779275 File: 24 KB, 350x350, 1366724287218.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779268 good goy

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 07:52:15 2013 No.3779278 >>3779254 Stop projecting

Anonymous Tue May 21 07:57:14 2013 No.3779289

>>3779236
Yeah, getting captured and enduring show trails and being tortured, broken and ridiculed would have been a better idea for his heritage. Top lel. Emperors and the like don't merely run heroically into the gunfire like a common pleb. There is nothing wrong with killing yourself in such a situation. It's probably the right thing to do.

Anonymous Tue May 21 07:58:14 2013 No.3779291

Now we're about Nazis, does anyone know of a book I could read about the willingness of the German soldiers to fight/execute whoever at the time?
The line I was given to believe was they were afraid of speaking out, and as it was a fascist state with secret police and labour camps I can see their point, but was wondering if there was any evidence to the contrary.

Thanks in advance, anon.

Anonymous Tue May 21 07:59:14 2013 No.3779294

>>3779289
He led the defence of the city and took an active part in the fighting alongside his troops in the land walls. At the same time, he used his diplomatic skills to maintain the necessary unity between the Genovese, Venetian and the Greek troops.

He died on 29 May 1453, the day the city fell. His last recorded words were: "The city is fallen and I am still alive",[16] and then he tore off his imperial ornaments so as to let nothing distinguish him from any other soldier and led his remaining soldiers into a last charge where he was killed.[17]

A *real* leader in a desperate, hopeless situation. Not your cowardly Austrian corporal.

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:02:14 2013 No.3779298

>>3779291
Hitler's Empire, by Mark Mazower. Deals extensively with Wehrmacht involvement in the atrocities committed in occupied Europe and Russia, and debunks the common myth that the SS were the "evil Germans" and the Wehrmacht all tragic heroes on the wrong side.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:03:14 2013 No.3779299 >>3778151 I found the in depth descriptions of minute changes in characters facial expressions extremely irritating, especially since it happened so often. there were entire paragraphs drawing these long winded meanings from the slightest grimace.

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:04:14 2013 No.3779300

>>3779294
> He led the defence of the city
Nah. Giovanni Giustiani was the prime leader. Venetians troops also did not take part in the siege: Ships, however, were recruited to Byzantine Navy led by Lukas Notaras who also betrayed Constantinos X and tried to go for collaboration with Ottomans.

Constantinos was overly dramatic leader who insisted dying on battlefield. It was the culmination of western world's martyrdom - Mongols had proven such to be absolutely irrelevant in warfare by showing the benefits of Commander actually commanding the battle from elevated position, not from lines.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:06:14 2013 No.3779304 >>3779298 Brilliant! Just what I was looking for. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:09:14 2013 No.3779306 >>3778447 Dude just finish it I went to a coffee shop and read it in a day. There is a purpose to the repetitiveness. Also it gets better as it progresses

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:10:14 2013 No.3779308 >>3779300 #rekt

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:12:14 2013 No.3779309 >>3779306 Did many cute-pies interrupt you to ask how it stands on good/bad dichonomy?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:12:14 2013 No.3779311 >>3779300 But my point still stands. 'Overly dramatic', sure - but it's a lot more admirable than ruining your country and then killing yourself before any punishment comes to you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:14:14 2013 No.3779314 >>3779311 So would you say that the death of Mussolini was a lot more admirable? You know, being executed by partisans and flogged with a common whore.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:16:15 2013 No.3779320 >>3779314 I would say that Mussolini's death was pitiful in the exact same way; he was caught on the run, hiding from his fate rather than accepting it or rushing to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:20:14 2013 No.3779328 File: 270 KB, 373x503, 1368715793801.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777853 >reading poststructuralism lel plen do you even hardcore rationalism?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:21:14 2013 No.3779329 File: 1.07 MB, 400x217, boratgroupdance5is.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779294 HAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:22:14 2013 No.3779331 >>3779328 Accepting rationalism is a leap of faith.

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:23:14 2013 No.3779334

>>3779314

Mussolini assumed his defeat by being torn apart by the people he failed to.

Hitler was a coward. He escaped the consequences of his poor leadership and military skills, like, well, a coward.

Now, that is pure fact and there's not two ways about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:25:15 2013 No.3779339 >>3779311 Getting anonymously speared isn't much more heroic than eating a bullet. Especially not if you're deliberately soliciting death. Your precious emperor really just committed a histrionic version of suicide by cop.

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:27:15 2013 No.3779342
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>>3779331

Except no. If you knew a thing or two about Parmenides you might know that reason can be proven to exist by differentiating it from the pre-reason One. From there you can just say that reason is by definition reliable, and boom, no more leaps. In other words: Into the trash do the Frenchies go!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:29:14 2013 No.3779347 >>3779339 It's a gesture of contempt against ones' enemies, and it's making your death part of the suffering of the people you've failed. It's the least a leader can be prepared to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:32:15 2013 No.3779349 >>3779342 Thank you! Too often do I have to explain this to people.

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:33:15 2013 No.3779351

>>3779347

Bullocks. For the leader to take part of the suffering, the leader must follow the same faith as his followers.

The nazi pigs got slaughtered by the Red Army and, so, for Hitler to show some balls he should have gone out, guns blazing, ready to get shot.

No matter how much you deepthroat the Austrian failed artist and nutcase, this is fact and you have to chew on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:35:15 2013 No.3779354 >>3779351 Yup, pretty much this. The only two types of Nazis who had balls were those fallen in combat and the ones gone to Nuremberg.

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:36:14 2013 No.3779357

>>3779351
He would have to do so with a balaclava on his mug to be in the same situation as yon emperor. Which would mean he would simply get shot to death without too much trouble. Really not much of a difference to shooting yourself. It's a very empty gesture really.

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:38:14 2013 No.3779359

>>3779249
The only raison d'etre of nazism is antisemitism, nigger

Racism and antisemitism is ingrained into nazism, the racial purity is at its very core, and holds a literally mythical level

>thule society
>master race concepts
>aryan origin archeologic expeditions in Tibet
>Lebensraum
>Lebensborns
>"medical" experiments

Please explain why antisemitism was a mean to a end, I'm waiting... antisemitism WAS the end and war only the means.

You take away antisemitism, everything crumbles

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:39:14 2013 No.3779361 File: 635 KB, 200x145, 1345870363166.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779349 np broski rationalism5lyfe

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:41:14 2013 No.3779364

>>3779351
>>3779354
It says something about you that your idea of being though is letting yourself be tortured for no good reason. It's a very passive, bend over, meek martyr Christian sort of heroics. Before Christian times suicide was actually considered the aristocratic and noble way to die in a lot of cultures. You choose your own death instead of delivering it into the hands of some pleb. It's being in control of your destiny.

There's also something disgustingly egalitarian to demand leaders to symbolically mimic the way of death of their subordinates as a grand gesture of 'we're all in this together!'.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:41:14 2013 No.3779365 >>3779364 *tough Every time.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:42:15 2013 No.3779366 >>3779342 Differentiation is unfounded. Nice try.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:43:15 2013 No.3779368 File: 5 KB, 389x255, wpid-728-computer-reaction-face-knife-stab-self-eye.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779342 >can be proven to exist >reason is by definition reliable >and boom, no more leaps

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:44:14 2013 No.3779371

>>3779359
Nope, you get good old fascism without the convenient jew scapegoat. Antisemitism was an aspect of National Socialism but so heavily emphasised after the war that it can seem to be it's main cause. It was about establishing a new order in Europe with Germany at the helm. The rest were details.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:45:14 2013 No.3779374 >>3779368 But it's true. Once you establish that reason must actually exist, you need to admit that its definition is that it is at least usually tells us the truth. >>3779366 Prove it m8.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:46:14 2013 No.3779375 >>3779359 >The only raison d'etre of nazism is antisemitism, nigger Behold, I present to you the pinnacle of American education. Where is your God now, huh?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:47:14 2013 No.3779378 >>3779264 >Youssef >find Nazis "logical" >"martyrdom is a valid value" >...77 virgins? Why am I not surprized You should have sex more often youssef, your sexual frustration & narcissim is showing through suicidal thoughts

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:50:15 2013 No.3779382 >>3779374 is that it at least*

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:52:14 2013 No.3779385

>>3779374
Differentiation is merely projection. Before people start drawing lines there are no many and there is no one. Separateness and oneness are mere concepts. Stop cherishing the concepts, disrupt the constant discriminative interpretation of your experience and they both disappear. It's mere map-drawing. Convenient in that sense, but no more than that and confusing the map for the territory leads to nothing but confusion.

Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 08:55:14 2013 No.3779389

>>3779378
I'm a Christian. If you know anything about the actual person my tripcode is, maybe I'd take you seriously. Youssef Bek Karam led a nationalist movement in my home in Lebanon against the Turks.

>sexual frustration
Only leftists are sexually frustrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:57:14 2013 No.3779393 >>3779389 >living outside of civilisation >thinks Hitler was an okay guy now it all makes sense

Anonymous Tue May 21 08:57:14 2013 No.3779394

>>3779371
A good and very valid point, Mussolini facism wasn't very mystical about race and jews, cause you know, catholics

That's exactly why it failed hard and would have crumbled without germany

>implying continental Europe isn't established into a new order with Germany at the helm today

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 08:59:14 2013 No.3779397 >>3779394 Mussolini's fascism failed because of Hitler and Germany. It was too fragile to survive a war, too young - as was National Socialism. If Hitler had been a leader of any ability or foresight war wouldn't have happened in 1939.

Anonymous Tue May 21 09:00:14 2013 No.3779398

>>3779385

I agree; everything but the One is mere deception. However, we must admit that there exists the deception. The One is not within our experience, as our experience relies on reason. The One naturally exists in a pre-reason state, because for it to be interpreted by reason would not make it the true One. But, insofar as it exists only within deception, reason is reliable to some extent. We cannot hope to overcome the deception, because this would require a two-step process towards self-annihilation, and then there would be no we.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:06:14 2013 No.3779406 >>3779394 > Italy > Failed hard Italian fascism didn't fail as a system - It failed when due to external pressures it went for war, even though it clearly wasn't ready for one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:12:15 2013 No.3779409 Hitler was a genius but his soul was a bucket full of shit. He also had the special charisma to turn everything into shit. Proof? You. Look at this thread, look at you. You are the cancer. Hitler would be proud of you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:15:14 2013 No.3779412 >>3779359 people in germany were anti-semetic at the time because they had a tendancy to try and start communist revolutions.

Anonymous Tue May 21 09:15:14 2013 No.3779413

>>3779398
I think there is a lot of overlap in a lot of traditions regarding what you call the One.

I don't think we are forever divorced from it in our lifetime though. The differentiating is the very rationalising. Stop rationalising and the deception falls away. There are a lot of practices that pursue this aim. Buddhist realisation of sunyata, Taoist becoming one with the Tao, Sufi, Hindu and Christian mysticisms experience of God, Pyrrhonian suspension of judgement etc. I don't think Heraclitus' Logos isn't very different from Parmenides' One in principle either. I'd like to think I've had glimpses of this pre-reason state and therefore I have good faith in the notion that it can be expanded upon, perhaps become a continuous.

My knowledge of Parmenides is rusty though but you've rekindled my interest. Any specific texts and translations you recommend?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:16:14 2013 No.3779415 >>3779389 >>Lebanon Into the trash it goes.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:17:14 2013 No.3779416 >>3779412 just a side note, 'anti-semetic' itself is somewhat of a misnomer here, european jews are khazars, arabs are more ethnically semetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:18:14 2013 No.3779417 >>3779416 > Also, let's not forget - let's not forget, Dude - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint ...

>>	까치 Tue May 21 09:20:14 2013 No.3779421 Catcher in the Rye. Holden was such a prick, I could never get past the first thirty pages.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:22:15 2013 No.3779422 >>3779412 Also because German jews were at the forefront of "degenerate culture and grotesque art", i.e. modernism. This rhetoric still lives on among neonazis who praise kitsch romantic art that's on the same level as power metal album covers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:23:15 2013 No.3779423 >didn't even read those 20 pages

Anonymous Tue May 21 09:24:15 2013 No.3779424

>>3779409

I agree

I see Hitler as a tragic personage and the very exemple of "be careful of what you fish for"

In his youth Hitler wanted to be a recognized artist, to create something that will survive him and be recognized
He thought his dream was dead when he failed to get in art-school, he gave up on his dream to focus in politics

But he got what he wished for

The ultimate results of brooding over his initial failure was the creation of a symbolic&artistic system extremely powerful, maybe more semantically significant than ANY symbol existing

>Swaziska & nazi flags
>nazis uniforms & helmets
>SS runes, totenkofpts

system which is recognized quasi-universally and will be for decades, maybe centuries.

Now artschools accept anybody to prevent this

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:24:15 2013 No.3779428 >tfw mod is dead and we have killed him

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:25:15 2013 No.3779429 File: 167 KB, 414x552, 36135_1281651012513_full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779424 >Now artschools accept anybody to prevent this

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 09:28:14 2013 No.3779436 >>3779415 >>3779393 I'm actually living in Australia, lel. Oh my. Someone's assuming a bit too much!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:30:14 2013 No.3779438 File: 27 KB, 350x468, 1368054600251.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3778447 >To the Lighthouse >uninspired prose Board is 18+.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:30:15 2013 No.3779440 Diary of Anne Frank The Castle Moby Dick Gravity's Rainbow

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:32:15 2013 No.3779443 File: 52 KB, 309x475, soundandfury.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] almost. Gonna finish it today, about 4 weeks after picking it up. I really don't know what to think about it yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:34:15 2013 No.3779445 >>3779436 >Australia >Civilisation

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 09:36:15 2013 No.3779447 >>3779445 >not wanting to live in the glorious land of sunshine, hot chicks and kangaroo's

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:38:14 2013 No.3779449 File: 487 KB, 500x656, 1362763983481.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779424 >Now artschools accept anybody to prevent this

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:38:14 2013 No.3779450 File: 68 KB, 471x700, nova_express.us.grove.1964.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > the heck am I fucking reading? All the time. Half an hour after starting it I gave up.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:39:14 2013 No.3779451 File: 938 KB, 900x1188, straya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779436

Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 09:42:14 2013 No.3779455

>>3779451
Fuckin' lebo's

>mfw I'm going to have a sick sesh with my blue eyes blonde haired true blue mate

All the Anglo's love me because I'm the only one actually in a party that is stopping the building of mosques in our area, fuckin' muzza's

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:42:15 2013 No.3779453 >>3779424 > Now artschools accept anybody to prevent this lol'd So Warhol is a Hitler creation?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:44:14 2013 No.3779457 >>3777471 That was hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:44:14 2013 No.3779458 File: 39 KB, 533x462, 1358660169502.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779447 >imblying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxVlP4pYc0

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:45:14 2013 No.3779460 File: 64 KB, 500x343, 1365389801012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779436 >aussie leb HAHAHA fuck off you massive shit cunt

Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 09:50:14 2013 No.3779462
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>>3779460

Lel, check out this mutt, aye mate you know that every girlfriend I've had so far is aussie? Yeah, don't worry, I'll try save some for you (if you leave your subhuman melbourne apartment that is)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:50:14 2013 No.3779463 File: 34 KB, 460x276, full of win.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779436 I am happy to hear you won't be there when we roll the tanks again over your country. Sincerely.

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 09:53:14 2013 No.3779467 File: 192 KB, 800x600, 1367666774155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779463 >turks >rolling anything

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:54:14 2013 No.3779468 >>3779462 >self-hating leb lol poor child you are so confused

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:54:15 2013 No.3779469 >>3779413 "pre-reason state" Oh, you mean 30 minutes after eating magic mushrooms? The only time in my life I can think about things as if not through a lens or my own paradigms? The only problem is the childlike innocence and naivety.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:56:15 2013 No.3779473 File: 205 KB, 600x400, based durum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779467 >implying

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 09:57:15 2013 No.3779474 File: 1.22 MB, 450x450, 1369029915544.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779468 >self hating leb >tripcode is of a national hero of Lebanon logic, not even once

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 09:58:14 2013 No.3779476 >>3779473 LOL 10/10

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:59:14 2013 No.3779479 >>3779469 I've no experience with that, I was referring more towards meditation and moments of 'flow', but they might as well relate to each other.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 09:59:14 2013 No.3779480 File: 172 KB, 556x394, IDF_pride.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3779467 Not a Turk, son, not a turk ;)

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 10:01:14 2013 No.3779485 >>3779480 I am begging you, roll the fuck back in and cleanse my country because Hezbollah and Saudi Arabia have turned my country into a fucking muslim infested shithole

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 10:04:14 2013 No.3779488 >>3779485 Yup, that's the idea. We love you, people, we just don't like Hezbollah. I finished my service and returned to my country of birth (Spain), but I would happily enlist for that "crusade".

>>	Youssef Bek Karam !jfJxNLwYMY Tue May 21 10:06:14 2013 No.3779491 >>3779488 The Maronite people are being suppressed because we simply have no allies. Look what happened with the Assyrians. We don't want that to happen here. Lebanon is the land of the real Lebanese, the Maronite, Aramaic peoples.

Anonymous Tue May 21 10:14:15 2013 No.3779498

>>3779479
Also, I guess when you approach such states slowly and deliberately instead of forcing it with psychoactives you sort of get to walk the line of what Buddhists call the two truth doctrine, being aware of both convention and 'truth', being some sort of a functioning mystic.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 11:01:15 2013 No.3779562 >>3777442 If you're fine with reading terrible books which make extensive use of allegory that involves animals go ahead.

Anonymous Tue May 21 11:10:16 2013 No.3779578

9 out of 10 fantasy books I ever tried.

I wasn't aware that fantasy stands for "more of the same written by some other author".

And the worst is that all that garbage written by those coat-tail riders lessens the actually good works they rip-off and make them feel cliché.

Anonymous Tue May 21 11:26:14 2013 No.3779601

>>3779413

But to witness the One would be to shatter all of reality. As far as I know, there is still existence. And you couldn't witness the One to begin with, because the One is not is, but is also not not is. You see, existence is action, and reason is the categorization of action. The One transcends action and the existence/nonexistence dichotomy, and therefore could not be witnessed, since it cannot be at all. It is pure substance. I don't think you quite understand what I'm telling you. I don't think it is possible to break the dichotomy of being/nonbeing, because possibility itself is. Only the One can be and not be at once. Everything else only is.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 11:27:14 2013 No.3779605 >>3779601 but also is not not

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 11:53:14 2013 No.3779642 >>3778454 >Journey to the End of the Night Once I finished that book, all I could think was why anyone would write that? It's so bleak and dark and full of despair. There are some things humans should just keep to themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 11:56:14 2013 No.3779651 File: 74 KB, 484x750, Infinite Jest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What anyone see's in this pretentious tripe is beyond me

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 12:11:14 2013 No.3779675 >>3779651 You could say that they see... infinite jest.

Anonymous Tue May 21 12:16:14 2013 No.3779689
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>>3779601
>But to witness the [...] You see, existence is action, and reason is the categorization of action.
I'd say to witness the One is to see reality unobstructed. You are always witnessing the One, you just don't realise it. To do away with the illusion that things are not the One is to experience the One. And to do away with illusion doesn't lead to 'you' witnessing 'the One' but the dissolving of this discrimination where you are the One or there is the One or there is no idea of the One nor not the One but merely hehehehee/cuntrag/three pounds of flax/suchness/KAAAAATZ etc post-dualism of unutterableness since all linguistic expression is based on contradictory notions and qualities and discrimination and as soon as a word is uttered or concept is entertained the suchness shatters into fragments.

>The One transcends action and the existence/nonexistence dichotomy, and therefore could not be witnessed, since it cannot be at all.
But it is, since everything is. Existence/non-existence is a false dichotomy. Non-existence is an empty category, an error. Correct this error and you will remain with the dichotomy falling away. Everything per definition exists. Existance is merely another word for the One/Logos/Dao/Brahman etc.

>It is pure substance.
The dichotomy between substance and not-substance is false. All dichotomies are false.

>I don't think you quite understand what I'm telling you.
I think I do but just don't agree, but you might be right. Maybe we don't understand eachother mutually.

>I don't think it is possible to break the dichotomy of being/nonbeing, because possibility itself is. Only the One can be and not be at once. Everything else only is.
This is where our main difference lies since non-existence as a concept is nothing but human error to me. It's a stunted byproduct of a dualistic language.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 21 12:18:14 2013 No.3779694 >>3779689 Also how about them recommendations, friend?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 22 00:58:15 2013 No.3781427 File: 207 KB, 1142x1600, Corsarios+de+levante.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's just fucking imposible.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 22 09:34:15 2013 No.3782040 bump

>>	Anonymous Wed May 22 10:19:15 2013 No.3782118 File: 151 KB, 640x480, FrederickTheGreatPlate-004s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3777445 I'm with you man. I read Crime and Punishment. I did my time.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 22 10:50:15 2013 No.3782168 File: 40 KB, 312x500, mockingbird.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3776255 So. Fucking. Slow.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 22 11:13:15 2013 No.3782211 >>3776373 >trainspotting >heavy dialect It's not, though. You need to learn like 10 words max if you've never heard a scot before, and if you have met a scot before you should be fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 22 11:30:15 2013 No.3782244 >>3778447 >uninspired prose WOW fucking WOW

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