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HI GUISE.

I hope you read Chapters 1-5 of the Sun Also Rises. Cliterature's chapter 1-5 circlejerk starts tomorrow (aka forty-five minutes from now) ITT.

For those of you who don't know, Cliterature is the new /lit/ book club:
http://cliteratureclub.wikispaces.com/

Chapters one to five aren't really that long, you can probably read them over breakfast tomorrow if you want to hop in with us. Or you can probably read them in the forty-five minutes before tomorrow starts.

Anyhow, I'm going to bed. I'll be on tomorrow morning so we can discuss this book.

>> No.3749315

I haven't read and I am going to skip this first one, but I will bump this to raise awareness. ( I like the idea )

>> No.3749339

I also can't participate due to exams kicking my ass right now, but will bump for interest.

>> No.3749341

I have an unread copy next to me right now. Do I need to read it in 45 minutes?

>> No.3749467

I'm in homies, lets get dis bitch cookin'

>> No.3749554

I think the only real question is how did he manage to pick up that french qt3.14

>> No.3749586

>>3749554
She is a prostitute.

>> No.3749594

>>3749586
ohhhhhhhhhh

>> No.3749597

>>3749594
You've never been to France, have you?

>> No.3749600

>>3749597
nope, never left 'Murika

>> No.3749602

I'll skip for now. I have a lot going on.

>> No.3749607

Weird, picked this up last week and stopped when I got to chapter 6

>> No.3749609

>>3749594
I know man. I didn't know until my teacher mentioned it in class. I didn't realize the men that was with Brett were gay either

>> No.3749622

I chuckled at the "Man from a convent with Alger books" comparison.

>> No.3750216

I was reading on Sparknotes that Jake is insecure about his masculinity, and Hemingway hints at this through Jake's condescending attitude towards Robert as an emasculated man controlled by Frances. He also feels like punching the gay guys. Thoughts?

>> No.3750256

By the way guys, most of Hemmingway's most important descriptions lies in what he doesn't say out right, but rather what he hints at, and is just under the surface.

I love the beautifully tragic relationship that Brett and Jake share

>> No.3750377

>>3749609
It's weird though, since one of the friend of Lett, who notices that Brett's a "harlot", wants to dance with her. Why? And who does Hemmingway describe a policeman standing there smiling as a bunch of gay men walk in with along with a prostitute? You'd think that the police, a symbol of authority and oppressive cultural norms, would be just as angry and homophobic as Jacob/Hemmingway is.
And what's the deal with the duke/bishop/lady business? Is it a mockery of the European way of adding titles to your name to seem important even if you're a crappy Greek painter?
It seems silly/out of character that Cohn is so personal/protective about Brett when Jacob says she doesn't marry out of love.
Also if this is set in the jazz age, how come accordion music was being played at a dance club?
And I'm having a hard time applying the Iceberg theory to these first few chapters, other than the incident when Jacob cries in his bed there doesn't seem to be much lurking under the surface yet.

>> No.3750411

>>3750256
>most of Hemmingway's most important descriptions lies in what he doesn't say out right, but rather what he hints at, and is just under the surface.

This is all writers ever

>> No.3750413

>>3750411
what? utterly false statement.

>> No.3750422

>>3750377
>And what's the deal with the duke/bishop/lady business?

I believe it's because most of the characters are based on IRL persons who did have titles.

>It seems silly/out of character that Cohn is so personal/protective about Brett when Jacob says she doesn't marry out of love.

Cohn believes in the "old" values, chivalry and what have you. That makes him out of touch with the "lost generation" that the other members of the group are.

>And I'm having a hard time applying the Iceberg theory to these first few chapters, other than the incident when Jacob cries in his bed there doesn't seem to be much lurking under the surface yet.

Yeah there isn't much of that IIRC, there's a lot of necessary exposition. Although the scene where Cohn comes to Jake's office is IMO pretty well done, I always got the feeling that Jake was annoyed to death with Cohn even though he says nothing to imply that,

>> No.3751580

Not much to discuss yet. Pretty boring so far

>> No.3751917

>>3750377
>Also if this is set in the jazz age, how come accordion music was being played at a dance club?

because more than one kind of music existed.

I like your observation of the police officer.

>> No.3751992

>>3751580
Prepare your anus. You're in for a long ribbing.

>> No.3752004

>>3748678
I'll read 1-5 tonight. I'm also reading Crime and Punishment atm, so I'll be juggling 2 books at once.

>> No.3752191

bamp

>> No.3752196

>>3751992
Is yours exit only?

>> No.3753402

>>3751917
accordion music doesn't seem like the "dance" music literaties would go for. too folksy

>> No.3753470

>>3753402
Yeah but this is during the self-romanticized Paris. Everything has to be Parisian.

Plus Jazz is American Nigger music.

>> No.3754788

>>3753470
what are some of the other examples of self-romanticized setting in the text?