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How does /lit/ feel about Noir?

Personally, it's my favorite genre to come out of Pulp.

Yes. I said it. Genre.

>> No.3742295

I love it, but hate the fucking fedora bullshit it has spawned.

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>>3742295

>> No.3742318

>Noir
wut?
Noir, specifically Film Noir, is what the cinematic adaption of this 'genre' is called
This 'genre' is called Hard Boiled you ignorant pleb
Go read James Ellroy btw

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>>3742318

It's hard boiled with a non detective protagonist - try The Postman Allways Rings Twice for a good early example

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>>3742317
>>3742295

>> No.3742369

what's Chester Hymes considered?

>> No.3742374

>>3742369
meant Himes. I was thinking of hymen

>> No.3742412

>>3742359
A trilby IS a fedora, dumbass

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>>3742359
fedorabeard detected

>> No.3742797

>>3742731
>mfw being a nerd became cool and people now bully outcasts as neckbeards instead

>> No.3742966

>>3742797
Neckbeard culture was appropriated, it's still the same social group who were picked on as ever.

>> No.3743595

Why are we ruining this thread with "neckbeardfedoracheckyourprilvldgelulz" bullshit?

To get it back on track, can somebody knowledgeable about the genre recommend some little known/obscure noir from the 30s/40s?

>> No.3743766

Not exactly 40s' or even remotely obscure, but the L.A. quartet novels are fine lit

>> No.3744039

>>3742966
>>3742797
>>3742731
>>3742412
>>3742359
>>3742317
>>3742295
Let me ask you fedora-war veterans something. If I am a well-adjusted, daily-shaving adult male with a respectable job, and I live in a region where the climate at times desires a coat and hat, would it be acceptable to wear an elegant and understated fedora? If not, is there a hat that can be worn? The only thing I can think of is a beanie, but they are too hipster for my tastes...
Forgive my ignorance, I live in Florida so my experiences with fedoras amount to cringing sights of overweight necks with beards waddling the streets under sweat-stained trilbys with little drops of spaghetti and sauce trailing the way behind them. However this winter I was in Switzerland and I saw an elegant gentleman who was probably in his 60's wearing a fedora, coat, suit, the works; I shit you not, this man looked like a very respectable world-renowned literary figure and national icon. I looked at him and said to myself, 'I want to be that guy when I grow up'.

Of course, he could have been your average NEET living off his inheritance/government-funded welfare, having just left the downtown anime convention, his Naruto costume securely tucked under his clothes, barely able to restrain his furious desire to run home and masturbate to anthropomorphic gay porn. But it's highly unlikely.

>> No.3744092

>>3744039
Fedoras are fine if you can pull it off. Also, this is more /fa/.

>> No.3744118

>>3744039
>I looked at him and said to myself, 'I want to be that guy when I grow up'.

So be that guy when you grow up, not now.
Unless you are an elderly gentleman or a movie star like Johnny Depp, leave the fedora at home, you can still wear it while rolling around your house pretending to be Indiana Jones

>> No.3744133

>>3744118
i don't own a fedora..

>> No.3744319

>>3744092
who cares if it's /fa/, there is a long-standing consensus on /lit/ on what a respectable man really is, and I'm wondering if that man can can be a fedora-wielding gentleman.

>> No.3744818

>How does /lit/ feel about Noir?

Noir/hardboiled fiction is what got me into reading books that weren't set texts. My picks for the best in the genre:

Raymond Chandler - The Big Sleep, Farewell My Lovely, The Lady in the Lake
Dashiell Hammett - The Big Knockover, The Maltese Falcon, The Glass Key
James M. Cain - The Postman Always Rings Twice, Double Indemnity, The Butterfly
Richard Stark - The Hunter, Slayground, The Outfit
Jim Thompson - The Killer Inside Me, Pop. 1280, The Getaway
Dan J. Marlowe - The Name of the Game is Death, One Endless Hour
Charles Williams - Hell Hath No Fury (The Hot Spot), A Touch of Death
Paul Cain - Fast One, Seven Slayers
Jonathan Latimer - Solomon's Vineyard
James Ellroy - The Black Dahlia, The Big Nowhere
Ted Lewis - Jack's Return Home (Get Carter)
Charles Willeford - Cockfighter, The Burnt Orange Heresy, Pick-up, Miami Blues, New Hope for the Dead
Lawrence Block - Eight Million Ways to Die, Grifter's Game
James Crumley - The Wrong Case, The Last Good Kiss, Dancing Bear
Gil Brewer - 13 French St, The Vengeful Virgin
Elliott Chaze - Black Wings Has My Angel
Patricia Highsmith - The Talented Mr Ripley
William Lindsay Gresham - Nightmare Alley