Hip Hop Lit

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3657624]

Are there any great books written during say the
early 80's about the slums in NYC that incorporate
the slang and parlance of the times?

Why were there not many black writers produced?

[Anonymous No.3657646]

"Coh-cayne izza helluva drug"
- Luther King III

[Anonymous No.3657645]

'cos dem niggaz can jaym but dey cant into /lit/

[sage No.3657654]

>>3657624

Good luck with the replies from the /pol/ mullet heads infesting /lit/

[Anonymous No.3657676]

just listen to 36 its the greatest thing ever, who needs books when you have the wu tang?

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3657688]

>>3657676
Wu Tang is my favorite as well, but Tical is far superior to Enter the 36 Chambers.

[Anonymous No.3657697]

>>3657688
>Tical is far superior to Enter the 36 Chambers
are you legit?
anyway the best overall is liquid swords or supreme clientele

[Anonymous No.3657701]

>>3657624
>Why were there not many black writers produced?
Cocaine is the answer, I guess.

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3657704]

>>3657697
Haha no way. This is the list
Tical>Fishscale>OB4CL>Liquid Swords>Return to 36>36>Supreme Clientele

[Anonymous No.3657711]

>>3657704
fishscale is fucking sick but i refuse to believe tical is the best, i mean its solid (its a first generation wu solo album, they all are) but come on its method man he just cant compete lyrically with the likes of gfk and gza

>Supreme Clientele last
dont make me cry

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3657715]

>>3657711
Well, Method Man and the others all were students of the GZA (according to RZA).
Did you know most of the lyrics on Return to the 36 Chambers were old lyrics GZA wrote in high school?
I saw an article a few months ago where Method Man revealed that.
Can't wait for Crystal Meth

[Anonymous No.3657731]

>>3657715
fuck, thats insane, ive never heard that before

[Anonymous No.3657788]

WHY WRITE WHEN YOU CAN MAKE TECHNO MUSIC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yjh9wogX7Q

[lazy No.3657832]

Hip hop can be poetic.

http://rapgenius.com/Blu-amnesia-lyrics#note-133052

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmmFBTjypgs

[Anonymous No.3657849]

>>3657704
why is 36 chambers behind odb's album

[Anonymous No.3657861]

>>3657849
thats fucked up

[Anonymous No.3657883]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV6FrRfg9IA
This guy has a book, haven't read it though. He also has an album called 'DoubleThink', it's p.good. I know it's not 80-90's or even American but since we're on the subject of hip-hop and literature.
I find him interesting, he has a company called "the hip-hop shakespeare company", if you google him you can find him rapping Shakespeare and talking about how he wrong in ryhtm etc.

The UK is leading in terms of educational hip-hop

[Anonymous No.3657886]

>>3657883
how he wrote in rythm*
Why did I say 'wrong'?

[Anonymous No.3658056]

I've only read a few things but doesn't Saul Williams have anything like that?

>>3657883
I love you, man. Akala is GOAT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndle5sePmS8

[Anonymous No.3658066]

>>3658056
Oh come on, Akala is awful:

Nigger listen, when i spit on the riddem, I kill em,
raw like the Ball of Brazilians,
you don't war, coz the kids brilliant,
blood, im the heir to the throne,
not William, Akala, smart as King Arthur,
darker, harder, faster,
rasclaat, I kick the illa shit,
it's like Shakespeare, with a nigger twist,
lyricist, im the best on the road,
nitro flow, oh-so-cold, I'ma blow yo,
keep the hoes, I only want dough homes,
nobody close, I'm alone in my own zone,
no no love for the po-po,
loco when I rock mics solo,
I hope that you know, where you don't go tho,
want it with Bolo? Must be coco,
its William back from the dead,
but I rap bout gats and I'm black instead,
it's Shakespeare, reincarnated,
except I spit flows and strip hoes naked,

[Anonymous No.3658072]

>>3658066
That's one of his oldest tracks, when Grime was huge and he was trying to fit in with that scene.
He doesn't even say nigga anymore, he even goes as far as retroactively altering the word when he performs those older tracks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/akala/akala-you-are-what-you-read_b_1143502.html

[Anonymous No.3658078]

>>3658066
Go to the one minute mark of the track he posted.

[Anonymous No.3658092]

>>3658066
see:
>>3658066
"just listen to my older bars, I was just confused as you probably are"

I can't lie, about two years ago Akala was the reason I started reading. He has a list of a years worth of books. http://illastate.bl0g sp0t.co.uk/2010/07/at-least-years-worth-of-books-to-read.html
Obviously he focuses alot on the real black history etc, but as someone who was kicked out of school I can safely say that he is the reason I started reading an looking for knowledge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRCWx9lLnzk this was a big inspiration for me to get my ass in gear and read more last year

[Anonymous No.3658099]

>>3658092
I meant -

>>3658092
See:
>>3658056
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRCWx9lLnzk
"just listen to my older bars, I was just confused as you probably are"

>>3658056
Saul Williams is brilliant, there's a great SB.TV interview with him, Akala and Lowkey

[Anonymous No.3658107]

>>3658099
>there's a great SB.TV interview with him, Akala and Lowkey
I have viewed it many times already, a lot of truth from three great rappers/authors/artists

Also
>I can't lie, about two years ago Akala was the reason I started reading
You're me, right? He tweeted about Saul Williams Said The Shotgun To The Head a few years back which got me into reading.

[Anonymous No.3658108]

If only Faulkner lived through the 80's and moved to NYC so that he could write a novel where he accurately writes negro parlance

[Anonymous No.3658109]

City Kid by Nelson George

[Anonymous No.3658117]

Precious: Based on the Novel Push by Sapphire

[Anonymous No.3658249]

>>3657624
>Why were there not many black writers produced?
There were more black writers produced during this time than white writers! They just wrote poetry, not literature. If you can't appreciate that, then fuck you.

[Anonymous No.3658265]

>>3658249
poetry is literature you noob

[Anonymous No.3658278]

Hubert Selby Jr

/thread

[Anonymous No.3658288]

>>3658278
>Hubert Selby Jr
He's white

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3658443]

>>3658249
I saw an interview with Lil Wayne where the reviewer compared rapping with poetry and Wayne stopped the interview!

[Anonymous No.3658467]

>>3658443
what? does he think rapping incomparably better or worse than poetry?

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3658480]

>>3658467
Found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2S9EUE0gA

[Anonymous No.3658587]

>>3658480

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3659116]

>>3658587
Yeah Lil Wayne's pretty much an asshole.
Unless you like dick jokes and Laffy-Taffy-wrapper-inspired puns.

[Ezra !36PjEKSxqo No.3659462]

>This thread


My street cred is solidified forever

[Anonymous No.3659482]

>nobody mentions Chedda Boyz

I would be intrigued for an answer to OP's question, though. Is the assumption that there weren't (aren't?) many black novelists correct?

[Anonymous No.3659679]

>>3658288
oh sorry, i meant ken griffey jr

[Anonymous No.3659689]

>>3659482
well there's always Frederick Douglass

[Anonymous No.3659922]

Get this. Covers every era up to 2010.

[Anonymous No.3659935]

[Anonymous No.3659943]

[Anonymous No.3659952]

>>3659943
How is this hip hop if it was written almost a decade before hip hop even started?

[Anonymous No.3659959]

[Anonymous No.3659965]

>>3659952
where in OP's statement does he ask about hip hop? it's an incredible book about lower class African American life in NYC and it outlines what NYC rap from the 90s was about better than some "A History of Rap" book ever could.

[Anonymous No.3659974]

>>3659965
>during say, the early 80's

[Anonymous No.3659981]

>>3659974
>say

are you really this uptight?