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ITT: God tier science fiction

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Christopher Hinz's Paratwa Trilogy (pic is the first book). I've never met anyone else who's read this, but it's fucking awesome.

>> No.3631922

>>3631901
maybe you can help me out:
my brother told me about a science fiction where there was some sort of lottery performed for generations and eventually a trait for luck was selected in the population. my brother talked about how the luck of these people made it to where, if they wanted to be with someone, that person they wanted to be with had no way of escaping that person's side.

any help?

>> No.3631926

>>3631922
Ringworld by Larry Niven. The lottery thing isn't the main plot or anything, but it's definitely important.

>> No.3631932

>>3631922
>>3631926
But, Ringworld is a pretty influential work. So it's possible some other author took the concept and ran with it.

>> No.3631934

>>3631926
>>3631932
thanks! i appreciate your help!

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>>3631934
No problem.

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>>3631950
Interesting... haven't heard of this before. Sounds pretty cool.

>> No.3631997

Can anyone recommend me any SF books with strong religious themes? I want to write a paper on this.

>> No.3632012

>>3631910
first book is... ok. Rips off Gibson heaps, but has some novel ideas. Sequels are pretty bad.

>> No.3632013

>>3631997
See >>3631942

Also Dune, obviously. And Lord of Light. And Behold The Man.

>> No.3632016

>>3631961
you are either trolling or new here. The book of the new sun is widely regarded as being the best literature sci fi has yet produced. If you don't count Frankenstein, which is really proto.

>> No.3632017

>>3631961
It's legitimately the most interesting SF series I've ever read. I'm on the fourth book now and I know I'll need to read it again to understand the basics of what's going on.

It's very dense prose. You really can't skip a single word. But it's worth it in the end. I think it's the best case that SF has put forward to prove that it has a lasting role in literature.

>> No.3632019

>>3631942
this is pretty good. It's a long way from lit though. I have a suspicion it inspired Neal Stephenson's Anathem, or was at least the seed for it.

btw OP - EON is shit and so is Greg Bear. You appear to be on the right track. Why not try lord of the flies next?

>> No.3632026

>>3632017
I asked this in the other sci-fi thread, but it would be cool to have a list of sci-fi with /lit/erary value. Good characterisation, dialogue, writing style, that kinda thing.

>> No.3632029

>>3632026
For me at least, BOTNS is one of a kind within the genre. I'm really surprised it never got the recognition I think it deserves as a major work of literature.

That aside, I'd like to see a list like that too.

>> No.3632030

>>3632017
This, I'm on my second read now and it's one of those books where you learn something new everytime. It's mindblowing how every little odd mention has significance somewhere in the world. You can see pivotal plot points spelled out within the first 5 chapters if you know what to look for, and you're just getting started. Crazy shit.

>> No.3632033

>>3632030
somewhere in the work*

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>>3632030
To save a bit of time, does it mention specifically in Shadow [spoiler Thecla tearing at Severian's eyes/ having sex with him? [/spoiler] Because I don't know whether I was reading it too lightly the first time, but I don't remember ANY stuff like that.

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>>3632034
Fuck me. I shouldn't post at 4:00 in the morning.

>> No.3632038

>>3632019
It's great. I think it in part inspired Anathem but I think Anathem is also on some other shit but also I have strange views about Anathem.

>>3632026
off the top of my head - Sam Delany, The Stars In My Pocket Like Grains of Sand. Tom Disch, Camp Concentration. Vrs works of Michael Bishop and James Tiptree and RA Lafferty and Gene Wolfe.

>> No.3632040

To save a bit of time, does it mention specifically in Shadow Thecla tearing at Severian's eyes/ having sex with him? Because I don't know whether I was reading it too lightly the first time, but I don't remember ANY stuff like that.

>> No.3632042

>>3632040
Whoa, what the fuck. I must have missed them having sex at all

>> No.3632046

>>3632026
>>3632029
Would probably include stuff that's so /lit/ people don't normally refer to it as sci-fi even though it clearly is, like (most painfully obvious examples incoming) Nineteen Eighty-Four and Brave New World.

>> No.3632047

>>3632042
I'd give you specifics on where it is, but I remember specifically after Severian ate Thecla's flesh she talked about her "boy-lover." There's another part in either Claw or Sword about how Thecla used to tear at his eyes.

>> No.3632050

>>3632047
The plot thickens no surprise a noblewoman being a goddamn freak, Severian really is a pushover eh?

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>>3632046
We've had literally 3-4 of those threads in the last day. Which is something for /lit/.

>> No.3632053

>>3632050
I'm really confused about so much in the book already, I don't want to think about how this is going to resolve. If it does. Whatever, I'll probably have to read it again anyway.

>> No.3632058

>>3632047
I haven't read the book in ages but I seem to recall getting the idea that had something to do with maybe Severan possibly killing Thecla?. Not sure it actually matters in this case though as S is so unreliable as a narrator.

God, the relationships in that book can be so convoluted.

>> No.3632116

>>3632026
http://greatsfandf.com/

>> No.3632120

>>3632058
Well, he did gave her the knife so she could kill herself quickly. I love the fact that he's so unreliable. It gives me more reasons to read through it again.