I refuse to believe that at any given university the undergrad population isn't at least 80% retarded. It's worse when you go to a "good" university because the kids are richer, more entitled and less likely to realize that they are indeed retarded.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:23:28 2013 No.3610925 [Reply] [Original]

I refuse to believe that at any given university the undergrad population isn't at least 80% retarded.

It's worse when you go to a "good" university because the kids are richer, more entitled and less likely to realize that they are indeed retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:23:29 2013 No.3610929 retardation is the human condition

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:25:29 2013 No.3610935 "Indoctrinate U" is a good documentary to watch if you hate university students and you want to hate them more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:25:29 2013 No.3610936 Europe is wary to even acknowledge degrees given in the USA anymore, because it seems like they're bought rather than earned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:27:28 2013 No.3610939 >>3610925 >undergrad population isn't at least 80% retarded. Wait until third year then reevaluate your numbers.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:29:28 2013 No.3610941

>>3610925
I kinda agree with you OP.
Usually I think that way of my colleagues, but lately I realized it is a counterproductive way of thinking. You can become a loner and make people hate you.
If I see something stupid in my college I just try to forget I saw anything, I don't think about it. I just shut up.
Also, I'm kind of a moron too. I can't finish anything I start, so there's that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:30:29 2013 No.3610947 >>3610936 And that's totally justified. Here's my degree that proves that I drank and fucked for four years. Job, please! >>3610935 Sounds interesting, I'll check it out.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:33:28 2013 No.3610957

>>3610925
> I need feminism because it is a shield from the white man's sword
> I need feminism because I am the Other

These fucking kids have no idea what they're saying. They get together and regurgitate these half understood academic buzzwords and pat each other on the back and then drink Pabst.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:37:29 2013 No.3610963 >>3610957 Almost makes you want to believe Hell is real or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:40:28 2013 No.3610971 Wait until second or third year, when people have (mostly) figured out what they want and like to do. It's astounding how much it changes.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:46:28 2013 No.3610988

>>3610971
>>3610939
Yeah, I noticed a bit of change.

The idiocy is less felt in lectures/seminars, but it's just the entire study body of undergrads...when they all come together they cannot act intelligently.

Don't get me started on student unions and politics...All of my rage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:47:28 2013 No.3610994 If you aren't going to a STEM school, it shouldn't be a surprise you are surrounded by people that would fail Calc 2, maybe even 1.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:50:28 2013 No.3610999

>>3610994
Oh god, this. I'm taking Chem to fill a science requirement, and god damn I can handle questions but when the professor says "X is the concept, Y is the explanation, and Z is what you do not do.", and then ten people ask "Wait, I did Z and it didn't work....? xDD"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:50:28 2013 No.3611000 >>3610994 I've got a lot of friends in the STEM side of the school (which is really strong in Canada - McGill's either #1 or #2, depending on who you ask) Basically, it's the exact same. Lots of people just gliding by miraculously and succeeding.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:02:29 2013 No.3611022

>>3611000
Well, I make As in math so I would say I am smart, but I do study some and do do the assigned homework. Going from my Calc II class to my Gen Chem II class was a real head-turner. I went from proving limits of sequences and series to doing high school 20x=1000 solve for x bullshit, and half the class could not do it. We had to do work sheets in 4-5 person groups every Friday in Chem, and I would be the only person that understand the fundamental mathematical/chemical process happening. I never even studied or did work for Chemistry, and the person sitting next to me would spend hours studying and just plain not get what they were looking at. Granted, a lot of the people were not STEM majors per say, some were psych and what not, but it was kind of shocking. I feel bad for them, but at the same time, I just don't get how they cannot get it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:06:28 2013 No.3611030

>>3610957
>These fucking kids have no idea what they're saying. They get together and regurgitate these half understood academic buzzwords and pat each other on the back and then drink Pabst.
So it's like /lit/ with more beer and less bickering? Sign me up

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:16:28 2013 No.3611049

I definitely think the quality of the school has a lot to do with it. The difference between the people I meet at my meh tier school and the people that I meet when I visit my friends at an ivy league school is astounding. Given there is a small group of people that seem like the guy in op's pic but it is not even close to 80% it's closer to like 10% and even then they're still better than the ones at my college.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:17:28 2013 No.3611053 everyone probably thinks the same of you undergrad :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:18:28 2013 No.3611057 >>3610988 I was like you when I first went to university. Then I grew up.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:26:29 2013 No.3611082

As a whole, maybe.

First year is generally the worst year, because that's when people meet, cliques form, and the work isn't taken serious. This is, by extension, when the shit is filtered.
Come second year, the numbers have thinned, people are more willing to work, but will still be subject to selection based on their performance.
By third year, it's pretty good as things become more intense, and by fourth year it's really just work with veteran students who want to succeed.
Then there are the postgrad courses too.

But yeah, because first year is generally the biggest year in terms of population, don't be put off by the shitheads who can't handle it and eventually drop/flunk out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:36:29 2013 No.3611109 >>3611082 >implying the individual in OP's pic isn't going to get a PhD in Wymyn's Studies

>>	Martlet Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:38:28 2013 No.3611114 OP, if you actually go to McGill University, join Epilogue Book Club through the SSMU clubs site under miscellaneous. We'll bond.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:41:28 2013 No.3611117 >>3611057 I think you've still got some growing up to do. There is indeed a mass immaturity in American undergraduate programs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:46:28 2013 No.3611137 >>3611109 Well, there's no accounting for taste. That said I'll take a quiet Wymynz studies major over a business student who plays loud ass music in the wee-small hours and gets blitzed every night because #YOLO.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:51:28 2013 No.3611158

*shrug* There will always be some group of profs or students that will be similar to you at almost any given college or university. It might take a while but you should be able to find someone interested in literature, Latin poetry, etc. And while they might not have the same exact interests you do this group will have an appreciation or interest in your field. Anyway, there's hope OP. It's gonna be ok. If not just wall yourself off from everyone and try to befriend the faculty that doesn't suck.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:53:28 2013 No.3611162

>>3610925
>It's worse when you go to a "good" university because the kids are richer
Probably just harder-working and smarter for the most part. Ivy league schools give pretty generous scholarship and student aid packages out. Good state schools cost about the same if you stay in-state, and give out scholarships. Sounds like you're just justifying underachieving.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:54:28 2013 No.3611164 huh, lot of mcgill people on here it's midnight back in canada right, i guess that makes sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 23:57:28 2013 No.3611171 >>3611137 >quiet >Wymynz studies Is that possible? Their feminism would probably permeate the whole of their daily lives.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:07:29 2013 No.3611191 >>3611171 Except yes, they would. These people are pretty much the opposite number of /r9k/, but on Tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:09:29 2013 No.3611200 >implying you deal with this shit if you're a stem major

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:22:28 2013 No.3611228 >>3611171 unless you think typing out shit on tumblr is noisy then there's no real reason to believe they wouldn't be quiet

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:22:28 2013 No.3611229 >>3611200 In STEM majors, everyone is as boring and unsocial as you so you don't get to see how full of shit they are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:25:28 2013 No.3611242 >>3611117 Yeah but the point is that it literally does not matter. I'm sure if these 'immature undergrads' had been spouting a naive iteration of OP's worldview then he'd be giving them the benefit of the doubt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:26:28 2013 No.3611244 you're a true protagonist of western culture OP i can't wait to find out all the good you're going to shower upon our unworthy world

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:31:28 2013 No.3611250

>>3611022
I think the problem here, and the difficulties encountered by others in the rest of the thread, stem from the abysmal state of the American HS system.

I was once told by an American that University there is pretty much all filled with retards for the first 2 years because the students have to catch up on all the skills and knowledge that should have been acquired in high school. For the most part, most kid wouldn't not have gleaned these skills and knowledge.

Would this be an accurate state of affairs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:36:28 2013 No.3611259 >>3611244 >Being this pissed off about OP pointing out that a lot of universities are infested with faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:37:28 2013 No.3611262 >>3611259 >>2011 >>2012 >2013 >still using the term 'faggots'

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:38:28 2013 No.3611264 >>3611259 This is so edgy it's the cutting edge of edge

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:44:28 2013 No.3611280 >>3611262 This is 4chan, no one uses the word outside this site, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:45:29 2013 No.3611283 >>3611280 >still using it

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:46:29 2013 No.3611286 >>3611264 >>3611262 >You can't say faggot on the internet >What about my feelings?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:46:29 2013 No.3611288

Rich people are really good at using an adolescence spent learning how to do standardized testing to learn how to get a piece of paper and become an academic functionary. Poor people tend to be interesting or go home.

There is a neverending supply of reasons to get rid of the bourgeoisie.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:50:28 2013 No.3611295 >>3611288 But poor people are generally as uninteresting as their rich counterparts. More humble, however.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:51:28 2013 No.3611299 >>3611288 >tfw you will never create a society of nothing but prols and autocratic freemen The bourgeoisie is a curse on society.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:52:28 2013 No.3611302 >>3611288 You are strawmanning rich people. Some of them can have genuine interest in things, you know ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 00:56:29 2013 No.3611318 >>3611302 >Implying rich is the same as being bourgeoisie

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 01:00:28 2013 No.3611327 >mfw students are surprised that professors expect them to read beyond the assigned textbook

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 01:09:29 2013 No.3611354

>>3611327
>that feel when you act like any university student should and instantly all the professors love you and want to be your friend because you're the only person actually trying and engaging the material awash in a sea of people who think they're still in high school

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 01:22:28 2013 No.3611389 >>3611158 >too awkward and smart for the cool kids >not awkward or smart enough for the hyperintelligent

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 01:25:28 2013 No.3611393 >>3611327 >and he assigned us 100 pages of reading this week! Can you believe that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 01:29:28 2013 No.3611402 >>3611318 They were strongly associated, if not outright identified, in the post I was responding too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 01:36:28 2013 No.3611414 I hate being the only one knowing who Vladimir Putin is. The class literally looked at me and said things like, "how do you know these things?"

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 01:38:28 2013 No.3611419 No, most of the population at the university I went to was non-retarded. don't know what it was like at all you jokers' schools.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:01:28 2013 No.3611468

This is ridiculous. It's the 21st century. The best universities aren't for the richest; they're for the smartest. All the money in the world wouldn't get you into Oxbridge unless you'd been getting straight As since you were knee-high to a grasshopper. And if you're smart but don't have the money, then they hand out bursaries like they're going out of fashion. Hell, I've got two and I'm in no kind of financial trouble at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:02:28 2013 No.3611471 >>3611286 what are you even talking about lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:04:29 2013 No.3611474 Everyone but me is retarded I am the only sane person in a world of lunatics

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:07:28 2013 No.3611479 >>3611468 >All the money in the world wouldn't get you into Oxbridge unless you'd been getting straight As since you were knee-high to a grasshopper True, but all the money in the world will get you straight As so you know it's still a bit, you know

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:12:28 2013 No.3611488

>>3611022
>I just don't get how they cannot get it

This mentality explains why so many of my math teachers throughout school were terrible at explaining concepts. A lot of people who are good at math have an innate ability for it and don't realize it, particularly those who were interested enough in the subject to teach it.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:12:28 2013 No.3611490

>>3611468
>All the money in the world wouldn't get you into Oxbridge unless you'd been getting straight As since you were knee-high to a grasshopper.
Although that's true, it's also true that many that get in there had enough money for it to be conducive to their achieving straigt AAA's in the first place.

Postgrad Oxford is another story. But undergrad? All good old public school boys.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:14:29 2013 No.3611493 >>3611490 Addendum: This applies more to Oxford than Cambridge from what i have seen.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:14:29 2013 No.3611494

>>3611479
There's a limit. I'm assuming OP is American where the pre-uni education system is a little... shit. But over here in the UK, good teaching will only get you so far. If you're not intelligent, no amount of tutoring will get you those As. Bear in mind also that the best universities over here (not sure about America) have an interview and an entrance exam.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:15:28 2013 No.3611496 >>3611494 hmmm yes an interview, that sounds like something that the children of the rich would be completely unable to gain an advantage in, well pointed out. that's a rlly good way for us to ensure that the educational system remains a meritocracy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:19:28 2013 No.3611501 >>3611488 "if you cannot do, teach" Geniuses make terrible mentors.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:23:28 2013 No.3611509

>>3611496
>Sarcasm isn't an argument.

Interviewers aren't idiots. If you're interviewing for a world-class university, you'll have significant experience in the field. Interviews and entrance exams are designed to test a student's natural ability to cope with unseen material. In the case of the sciences (in particular, though in the arts & humanities as well), you're not even required to get questions right - the interviewers are looking at how your brain works in solving logic puzzles.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:25:28 2013 No.3611513

>>3611501
Yeah. It's like how, in baseball, Ted Williams was a shitty manager. Because he had better reflexes and because he was better at seeing the ball than almost anyone else in the history of the game, he was completely unable to give meaningful advice and just ended up getting frustrated at people who couldn't meet his insanely high standards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:26:29 2013 No.3611514 >>3611509 I think you're being rather optimistic about the intentions of interviewers, or at least about the way their intentions relate to the ways in which they actually evaluate students.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:30:28 2013 No.3611518 >>3611514 Having spoken to a number of interviewers since getting in to university, I have no doubt that what I say is true. It is also true that schools have no idea what is really required in an interview.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:31:28 2013 No.3611519 >>3611514 exactly money influences everything

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:33:28 2013 No.3611521 >>3611518 Again, I think you are still being sanguine about the extent to which the stated objectives of interviewers are aligned to the reality of the way they operate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:35:28 2013 No.3611523 >>3611521 And the exams? What preparation for them can a public school student do which a state school student couldn't? The past papers are all online.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:38:28 2013 No.3611527

>>3611523
You say that but it's pretty well-established at this point that testing results tend to be linked, at least to some extent, with family income.

Honestly, I think at a certain point, once you have inequalities in the quality of education and major inequalities in income, there's no way you can eliminate those from your admissions protocol.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:41:28 2013 No.3611531 >>3611250 100% accurate my foreign friend. In most cases at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:45:28 2013 No.3611537 You guys should all just use the Scottish education system. Then, world peace.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:49:29 2013 No.3611546 >>3610935 >dem reactions to the affirmative action bake sale all my lel

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 02:53:29 2013 No.3611554

>>3611523
Exam prep?

I'm not sure exactly what your entrance exams consist of, but here in the US we take the SAT or ACT exam which play a big role in the schools we get accepted into. The rich kids generally have a lot more access to preparation materials/special tutors that can boost their eventual score. The kids from more humble backgrounds are unlikely to ever get that extra help because they can't afford it(or don't know it even exists).

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:02:28 2013 No.3611562

>>3611554
UCL and Oxbridge are the only universities here which do entrance exams as far as I am aware (except for medicine, which every university interviews/exams for). In Oxbridge's case the exam is mailed out to you at a some kind of local exam hall, which you sit at the same time as everybody else in the UK. In UCL's case, (I'm not sure how many subjects actually do this; I do English) you are given the exam when you arrive for your interview. Apart from past papers, there is very little you can do to prepare for these exams - in the case of the sciences, a lot of it contains material which is too advanced for the course you are currently studying, and requires logic to work out.

I think our opinions differ because our education systems differ so radically. Things over here in socialist UK are much more equal - universities accept that state school students have likely received a poorer education, so their entrance requirements are slightly lower.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:04:28 2013 No.3611565

>>3611562
>I think our opinions differ because our education systems differ so radically. Things over here in socialist UK are much more equal - universities accept that state school students have likely received a poorer education, so their entrance requirements are slightly lower.

Yes, tell us more about the great enlightened socialist UK. For instance, remind me - how many members of the Cabinet went to Eton again?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:09:29 2013 No.3611573

>>3611565
I was joking. As for the cabinet, it's largely made up of Tory MPs and Lords. So, naturally, they're going to be rich. But times are changing - most of them will have gone to university decades ago when money was what separated the university ranks. Things have come a long way this century

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:18:28 2013 No.3611584 >>3611537 Australia got rid of the scottish system I think in the 70's because of socialist teaching unions and public policy makers. It has lagged behind general western standards ever since. "Advance Australia Fair" indeed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:21:28 2013 No.3611592 >>3610925 Nigger I go to UBC 80% of the undergrad population is Chinese - God knows if they're retarded or not, or anything else about those automata

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:29:28 2013 No.3611600 >>3611592 >those automata It's funny because it's true...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:30:28 2013 No.3611601 >>3610936 They always have been. Especially at "prestigious" schools.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:05:28 2013 No.3611721 >>3610925 It is commonly acknowledged that working class student bodies are better amongst academic staff. Not that they get the class sizes that they can do anything with the proletarian retards. A good class size is around 5-8.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:23:28 2013 No.3611741

>>3610957
So is every human culture. Go watch a church you're not a member of.

>>3610994
I see STEM students, and it isn't a surprise that they can't master basic humanities and social science concepts. Undergraduates gonna undergraduate.

>I definitely think the quality of the school has a lot to do with it.

Nope. I went to a top 500 whose tutes were more cogent than the top 50 I teach in.

>>3611242
>I'm sure if these 'immature undergrads' had been spouting a naive iteration of OP's worldview
Nope. Do you know how frustrating under thought marxist undergrads are? It is like being made to drink shit. Which I have had done to me, so I know, I know friend.

>There is a neverending supply of reasons to get rid of the bourgeoisie.
But only one fundamental one. M => C … P … C' => M'

>The best universities aren't for the richest; they're for the smartest.

Nope. They're for the people with a sufficient line of credit who succeed on standardised matriculation tests. None of which relates to capacity to perform academically.

>You guys should all just use the Scottish education system. Then, world peace.

Heard good things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:50:29 2013 No.3611772 >I go to a top 50 university >yes this university is good, it has such high rankings As a Dutchman, I don't know what any of this means

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:53:28 2013 No.3611776 Newsflash: 80% of any population is retarded. Actually, that's probably closer to 90%. And majority rules.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:53:28 2013 No.3611777

>>3611772
They're significantly bullshit, unless you view any of the metrics as indicative at a surface level of the underlying criteria of a good University.

I don't think much of Oxbridge, for example, but think highly of research in my field at Warwick.

etc. Thing is, with the exception of the Chinese STEM specific rankings, these rankings tend to harmonise for the top 200 institutions or so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:57:29 2013 No.3611784 >>3611777 It seems an Anglo thing. The world rankings seem like a big Anglo circlejerk with the Ivy Leagues and Oxbridge on top

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:59:28 2013 No.3611787

>>3611784
Times/HES / HES/QR / QR is a bit of a circle jerk in that its anglophone biased by reputation measures.

Chinese measures are STEM applicable only due to the nature of citation metric availability.

There are a couple of other ones.

The system of world class universities is a circle jerk anyway. You look at someone's PhD title and institution, then you search their University on Wikipedia and go "ahhhh," while nodding sagely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 06:59:29 2013 No.3611786 >>3610925 Utter bullshit. The white man's sword will cut right through Chinese queers - even if they have a feminist shield. He needs a sign that says, " I need Vikings because..."

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 08:14:28 2013 No.3611877 >>3611117 >There is indeed a mass immaturity in American undergraduate programs. I think this is a global phenomenon - not strictly observed to American Unis.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 08:16:28 2013 No.3611880 >>3611299 Class division is a curse on society.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 08:44:28 2013 No.3611908

>starting with thesis on journalism
>teacher professor in femnazi womyn studies
>have you been a journalist?
>no
>have you worked as a journalist?
>no
>what you think about my hypothesis?
>you should probably include a gender bias about yourself as a possible negative influence in the beginning
>wtf

That was the day I dropped any inclination I had towards feminism, and i've never turned back. She was a fucking professor.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 09:07:29 2013 No.3611924

I saw the kid in OP's picture performing spoken word poetry at a show I was going to. Me and my girl left.

Then I told her that I was the one responsible for the "We Need Eminem" counter-campaign at McGill. I guess it was a loss for the feminists that night, cause I got laid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 09:22:29 2013 No.3611933 Wow, I thought /lit/ would have intelligent people on it, but it looks like it's just full of sexist, racist twats. >>3611924 Aww, what's the matter, little boy? You scared of those nasty feminists taking away your privilege?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 09:59:29 2013 No.3611951 >>3611933 We get a lot of /pol/ leakage, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 10:00:28 2013 No.3611952 >>3610935 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHyvRHrYYBA Just watched that documentary. Raged plenty.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 10:00:28 2013 No.3611953 >>3611951 Stop being a victim. There is no /pol/ leakage, jesus christ. You sound just as retarded as they, when they start with their /jidf/ /srs/ shit. I hope you do realize that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 10:21:29 2013 No.3611987 >>3611953 >There is no /pol/ leakage, jesus christ. have you looked outside this thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 10:25:29 2013 No.3611994 File: 10 KB, 300x400, 1345252982047.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3611953 >There is no /pol/ leakage do you even read?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 11:11:28 2013 No.3612079 >>3611952 >15 minutes in >faggot talking about how we need to 'abolish whiteness' what the fuck is going on in universities these days?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 11:23:28 2013 No.3612114

>>3611952

What disturbs me with this video is that it condemns the same double standards that it perpetuates. For example, in the beginning they are being butthurt over people opposing the views of an anti-affirmative action intellectual (and I agree, stopping him from speaking is a very negative thing), but later in the video they insinuate that state institutions should not have invited Khadaffi to speak on democracy. The documentary, while raising some important issues, does it in such a one-sided manner that its legitimacy is overthrown and hurts the issues more than it helps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 11:28:28 2013 No.3612135 File: 59 KB, 300x198, harvard-t-shirts1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3611786 hahahah >>3611924 Sup, McGill. Some performance art at the Player's Theatre? >>3611114 Maybe I will...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 11:31:28 2013 No.3612145 >>3612079 >what the fuck is going on in universities these days? They turned into daycare centers for rich people, since the average 24-year-old now has the education and self-control of a 12-year-old one hundred years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:12:28 2013 No.3612401 >>3612114 I think has everything to do with Khaddafi not knowing the first thing about democracy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:14:28 2013 No.3612411 >>3612401 says who

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:15:28 2013 No.3612414

>>3612401

And maybe you not knowing anything whatsoever about Khadaffi except that he is that bad dude they talk about on Fox News?
You might want to check up on this Green Book thing that he wrote, I mean I'm sure you will think it is inconsequential but it might help your argument a bit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:18:28 2013 No.3612429 >>3612414 Thanks but no thanks. Being properly informed can do nothing toward my position at all. I'd rather remain ignorant and blather inanely, if it's all the same to you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:18:28 2013 No.3612435 File: 57 KB, 605x605, 1360434422281.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3612401

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:19:29 2013 No.3612441 >>3612429 All right. Carry on, good citizen! And remember to vote liberal!

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:21:29 2013 No.3612447

>>3612414
Look you fucking idiot. Anyone can write a book with pretty words, he has clearly showed through his actions and by creating a bloody dictatorship that he doesn't know the first thing about humanity, democracy and equality.

>2013
>Defending a torturer and murderer

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:22:28 2013 No.3612448 File: 59 KB, 500x361, 1360435950430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3612447

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:22:28 2013 No.3612451 >>3612447 2/10 you almost got me

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:38:29 2013 No.3612487

>>3612451
>>3612448
>>3612441
>>3612435
>>3612429
>>3612414
>mfw I had two neighbours that were refugees from the ruthless persecution of gadaffis secret police
>mfw the fighting between the rebel forces and the regular army began we celebrated with african wine
>mfw the man in the house hold one week later bought a plane ticket to join the fight
>mfw he said to me with tears in his eyes "I'm finally going to have a home, i'm 43 years old, and I've never had a home. But soon my friend..." as he left

I'll never forget that moment. Never.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:42:28 2013 No.3612500

>>3612414
>You might want to check up on this Green Book thing that he wrote, I mean I'm sure you will think it is inconsequential but it might help your argument a bit.

Reading the Green Book should reinforce the view that Khadaffi wasn't suitable to speak to an university audience on any issue. Have you actually read it?

You'd be better off by appealing to the man's political career and governance experience. Dictators have their merits.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:43:28 2013 No.3612501 >>3612487 >my anecdotal point of reference which is certainly not one-sided at all makes the literary achievements of a great intellectual null and void and thus his opinions should not be tolerated

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:45:28 2013 No.3612507 >>3612079 Why shouldn't we abolish whiteness?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:45:28 2013 No.3612508 >>3612487 Pathetic appeal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:48:28 2013 No.3612520 >>3612507 Same reason as we shouldn't abolish blackness, yellowness and gender.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:52:28 2013 No.3612535 >>3612507 Because genocide is bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 13:58:28 2013 No.3612561 >>3611924 >"We Need Eminem" counter-campaign at McGill That sounds neat. Pls explain.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 14:24:28 2013 No.3612614 Universities are the new highschool and undergrad degrees are the new toilet paper.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 14:34:29 2013 No.3612631 >>3612535 >yummy so edgy

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 14:36:28 2013 No.3612637 >>3612614 It's alright, we live longer now,

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 14:59:29 2013 No.3612694 >>3612614 Then don't fucking go, choda boy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:03:29 2013 No.3612706 >>3612631 Condemning genocide seems like the polar fucking opposite of "edgy" to me.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:08:29 2013 No.3612714
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>>3612561
>>"We Need Eminem" counter-campaign at McGill
>That sounds neat. Pls explain.

So in response to McGill's campaign I photoshopped the signs people were holding into subtly misogynistic Eminem lyrics. I recruited some brutes from bodybuilding.com to help me when the blogs were getting taken down, at any rate the pics themselves were mildly amusing.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149228853&page=1

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:08:29 2013 No.3612717 >>3612507 "We?" Who is this "we," bubba? I think a better idea would be abolishing your right to live.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:32:30 2013 No.3612782 >>3612714 Why did you bet banned from BB forums?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:33:29 2013 No.3612784

99% of the people in my sixth form who went to University are utterly fucking retarded.

One guy could barely string sentences together, and he's going to York now.

Another was this prissy, ditsy little fucking idiot girl, who was just insanely fucking stupid. She's now studying Law at Oxford or Cambridge because she just remembered a bunch of facts.

The world is fucked, and the UK especially so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:19:29 2013 No.3612873 >>3612784 I think it's a worldwide bubble that will burst eventually. All the stupid people can't control all the wealth and power without horrible consequences.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:23:30 2013 No.3612883 >>3612784 Out of curiosity what course are you doing and are you overall happy with it?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:26:29 2013 No.3612892

>>3612873
I can imagine that will be the case. A great deal of incredibly stupid people have ended up at some very good universities, and it's going to bite us in the arse eventually.

>>3612883
I'm not at University at the moment. I'm taking a year off to live the bohemian life. I'm learning a language, getting in shape, and probably going to go to America and Australia for a few months just because I can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:31:30 2013 No.3612914 >>3612892 So you're not in education while your peers are in prestigious universities with bright academic futures ahead of them. You don't think this is the root of your bitterness towards them? Of course you don't, but it is.

>>	Fandroid !p6ktXMpsfc Sun Mar 31 16:33:29 2013 No.3612920 >>3612784 >because she just remembered a bunch of facts. instutionalized education in a nutshell.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:35:29 2013 No.3612925

>>3612914
It isn't at all. You know absolutely nothing about me.

I applied to Universities with all of them, and got into all five. But I chose to delay my offers by a year.

I'm not bitter at all, but I can appreciate how you might have come to that conclusion. The whole "I'm clever but I haven't succeeded because *excusesexcusesexcuses*" attitude is as much of a problem as the fact that any old moron can get into a good university providing that can remember some facts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:35:30 2013 No.3612927 >>3612892 >probably Whenever people say this, they don't follow through.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:37:30 2013 No.3612930 >>3612927 I've got family in both places, and I've already arranged to stay with them for a few months within the next year. I don't know what kind of people you hang around with, but they're obviously a bunch of fucking retards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:38:29 2013 No.3612931 >>3612930 >I don't know what kind of people you hang around with, but they're obviously a bunch of fucking retards. The anger and resentment is seeping through.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:38:29 2013 No.3612934

>>3612925

Well I apologize for my assumptions. It's just that you seemed unnecessarily derogatory of "remembering facts" when its very important in many different academic fields. Perhaps not so much in Arts and Humanities but those degrees are fairly inconsequential anyway.
What are you going on to study next year?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:39:29 2013 No.3612935 >>3612931 I'm not angry or resentful at all. Why would that be the case? Can't a man use swear words gratuitously any more? What is the world coming to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:44:30 2013 No.3612941 >>3612934 Oh no, of course I appreciate the value of facts. I'll probably do English at Oxford. I was thinking of pursuing a career in journalism, maybe starting a blog and working my way into the New Statesman, liberal crowd.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:50:29 2013 No.3612951

>>3612935
you're calling people retards and saying that memorization of information is stupid.
I think that it's fairly obvious that you're pretty angry about something, and that if pressed, the flaws in your dogma would show brightly.

Enjoy isolating yourself through bigotry and negativity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:51:29 2013 No.3612953 >>3612941 yeah, right.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:52:29 2013 No.3612957 >>3612941 >I'll probably do English at Oxford. >probably

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:53:29 2013 No.3612959 >>3612957 Well yeah, It's a while away yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:15:29 2013 No.3613035 File: 21 KB, 240x320, 1327375331366.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3612714 Just checked this out. You win the whole internet, my friend

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:26:29 2013 No.3613072 i get on /lit/ for discussion that is more intelligent than CIS PRIVILEGE AND RAPE CULTURE, because i go to mcgill. and what do i see on the front page? a thread about this precise topic, populated by people from mcgill.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:30:29 2013 No.3613089 studying anything but sciences at any university is stupid, see what owns these universities are entities that are dependent on politics, learning things that are straight out politics or politically charge from them is stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:43:29 2013 No.3613154 Thank the jews for your academic groupthink

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:48:30 2013 No.3613177 >>3613072 Is McGill really that one sided and radical? I was thinking about going there, but it's starting to sound like it is just a big identity politics circlejerk.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:14:29 2013 No.3613304

>>3611488

I know lot's of people who are going to be math teachers.

Trust me they all suck at doing college level math and didn't actually get it themselves. The pay difference between the private sector for a BS in math and becoming a math teacher is typically like $20,000+ every year for your entire career.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:16:30 2013 No.3613317 File: 5 KB, 190x251, 8-[.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3611952 I just watched the whole thing. Holy shit.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:22:30 2013 No.3613344 >>3613072 Yeah but at least we're ridiculing it. Doesn't it make you feel good to know people like us exist?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:24:30 2013 No.3613352

>It's worse when you go to a "good" university because the kids are richer, more entitled and less likely to realize that they are indeed retarded.

I go to a university that I would generously describe as 'mediocre'. There's plenty of over-inflated ego's and superiority complexes floating about, I don't really know what your talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:34:29 2013 No.3613380 >>3612501 this. That guy should kill himself

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:35:29 2013 No.3613386 >>3613352 he's just butthurt he could only get into some shit state school standford here

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:37:30 2013 No.3613396 >>3613334 I cannot tell if this person is male or female. I am very confused. Please help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:42:29 2013 No.3613421 >>3613352 >I go to a university >ego's >what your talking This is what passes for mediocrity, I guess.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 19:30:29 2013 No.3613590
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>>3613177
McGill is a good school. This is a fact. And it has a great campus and it's in a great city.

The problem is that it attracts this really douchebag crowd, I've found. There are a lot of entitled Americans who come to McGill because it's cheaper and pretty easy to get into (because they have to pay more money, but still less than the average USA tuition).

It's not that one-sided and radical, it's just that all the hipsters are really tight and they love being loud. Reading the "McGill Daily" (one of the university papers) is hilarious. Lotta babby's first cultural studies making grandiose claims about social injustice etc...They write articles about how Engineering is the most sexist department and stuff.

What are you studying for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 19:34:29 2013 No.3613595 File: 264 KB, 1280x853, tumblr_mcdqcoBLxm1rik6e9o1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yo we need Eminem guy, you are a true hero. Just checked out wordpress. This is top-notch stuff. Let's go have a pint in the mile-end.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 19:46:29 2013 No.3613620

>>3611787
>The system of world class universities is a circle jerk anyway.
It really bothers me how some studies are hold better or more important than other studies only because their author went for example to Harvard, Cambridge or more broadly speaking is from Anglo country.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 19:48:30 2013 No.3613627 >>3613620 Not sure if it really happens. Researchers have generally a reputation attached to their own names, and often work in international teams. The reputation of the leading researchers matters probably most than that of his alma mater.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 20:55:29 2013 No.3613905 >>3613177 actually, it's a pretty great school. the identity politics shit is just a loud majority. plenty of people are apathetic to that shit. also why the fuck is half of /lit/ from mcgill

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 21:00:30 2013 No.3613940 >>3613905 loud *minority, sorry

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 21:13:30 2013 No.3613994

>>3613905
>>3613590
Well that's good to hear. It sounds like an amazing school and the campus is beautiful.
I'm planning on studying math, but I still enjoy the humanities a lot and would hate if I couldn't discuss things like politics or history without getting shouted down by a self-assured radical. Part of the reason I love /lit/ is because I can talk about communism with fascists or capitalism with socialists and not have the conversation dominated by political posturing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 21:21:29 2013 No.3614030 I'm a undergrad and I continually think about the fact that I'm probably stupid and that I'll look back on how I acted and wince. Does this make me more or less stupid?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 21:26:29 2013 No.3614052

>>3614030
that's good, it means you know you're not infallible, but don't let it paralyse you. everyone regrets some of the shit they did but if you DON'T do things for fear of being wrong the regret will definitely be a billion times worse. and if you think you have a genuine self-esteem issue as opposed to a healthy dose of self-doubt seek professional help.

source: chronic depression with schizoid tendencies

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 01:54:30 2013 No.3614633 File: 143 KB, 270x400, 1357457244951.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i regret college

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:02:30 2013 No.3614654

Infinitely more annoying are the tryhard undergraduates who are keen enough to start grasping certain concepts and theories but not keen enough to actually understand them and thus run around spouting off their half-baked opinions derived from misreadings of source material and regurgitated second-hand accounts from other places.

Reminds me a lot of /lit/, actually, except they're not socially awkward neckbeards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:05:30 2013 No.3614660 Oh God this thread makes me want to drop out of university I blame the Canadian university system

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:07:31 2013 No.3614670
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I go to a shitty university and a lot of the people seem to be racist and gay-hating which is nice. Also, I am Australian and our universities aren't strictly Jew brainwashing centres of cultural marxism, although the ones in Melbourne are, I believe.

>>3614660
Canada. Not even once.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:12:31 2013 No.3614685
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>sit next to this chubby, slightly awkward kid in my literary theory lecture
>he keeps making weird anime/4chan references to me and the other guy in our 'discussion group'
>we have to peer review paper proposals
>he wants to do a deconstructivist reading of some otaku tier (i.e. full of sexualized little girls) anime
>I start reading it and it's actually pretty good
>mfw this fat slob is probably way smarter than me

This is what happens when kids don't get bullied hard enough

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:16:30 2013 No.3614705 >>3614660 Dude, I go to a canadian university and it's chill as fuck I don't know why everyone ITT is getting so mad, man. People are going to believe what they're gonna believe. You can try and talk to them or ignore them, don't gotta be upset #yolo

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:18:30 2013 No.3614716 >>3613590 but engineers ARE mostly sexist nerds. If they even read, it's fantasy and hard sci fi. They play strange little dungeon games with dice and shit, eat pizza and drink beer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:18:30 2013 No.3614717 >>3614685 I counter that theory; bullying makes kids stupider. It isolates them away from the normal kids and keeps them from learning social skills, Then they get into pedo harem animes and there's no one around to tell them how weird it is

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:22:30 2013 No.3614732 File: 56 KB, 635x397, guilty_crown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3614685 >tfw some /a/non understands Derrida better than you ever will

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:23:30 2013 No.3614739 >>3614732 You can never "understand" Derrida in any meaningful sense of the word.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:26:30 2013 No.3614747 File: 5 KB, 225x224, breivik 15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3614732 Are you trying to cultural marxism me again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:36:31 2013 No.3614763 File: 29 KB, 500x500, 1336886716758.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3614732 >/a/nons >fat smelly meme-spouting weeb Yeah, nah. He's just an edgy kid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:37:30 2013 No.3614765 File: 23 KB, 571x515, 1362630816654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3611082 Thats very... capitalistic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:42:31 2013 No.3614778 >>3614717 No actually bulling is pretty good thing. Look at /jp/ those guys are the most philosophical anons in here. They can be pretty subtle in their arguments. They even realized they need normalfags. They are the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:42:31 2013 No.3614779 >>3614763 he was a cute little girl where it counts... on the inside

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:45:31 2013 No.3614785 >>3614779 Meme-spouting weebs don't deserve to be cute little girls.

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