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3512679 No.3512679 [Reply] [Original]

Does anyone still have that flowchart which explains in what order you should read the books of James Joyce?

I bought Dubliners today but I wasn't sure anymore if it was entry level stuff.

>tfw a cute girl next to me couldn't reach Ulysses in the upper shelf but I was too busy thinking about this shit

Wwwwelp....

>> No.3512695

Since we're on the subject of Joyce, what do one have to read in order to understand Ulysses and Finnegans Wake thoroughly?

>> No.3512698

>>3512695
Ulysses Annotated and A Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake

>> No.3512700

In order they're written, they get harder chronologically

>> No.3512707

>>3512695
Well that's on the flowchart, which I don't have unfortunately.

All I know is that Ulysses was rather late on there.

And Letters where the last thing I think.

>> No.3512719

>>3512698
Also A Reader's Guide to Finnegans Wake and Allusions in Ulysses: An Annotated List

>> No.3512733

Dubliners, Portrait, Ulysses, Finnegans. The letters whenever, they're more a joke. Poetry is shit.

It's explicitly in order of how close to the language you typically read.

>> No.3512736

>>3512695
>Ulysses

Homer, Aristotle, Ovid, Aquinas, Byron, Nietzsche, Ibsen, Yeats.

>Finnegans Wake

Fuck knows. Nothing. Everything.

>> No.3512739

>>3512736
You can't forget about Shakespeare, dude!!

>> No.3512749

>>3512733
No one likes Joyce's poems. Even Joyce apparently thought they were crap (just look at the titles of the collections)

>> No.3512931

I've read the Dead and that one about a kid going to the araby market, from dubliners. They seemed pretty entry-tier to me, especially compared to Ulysses

>> No.3512960

>>3512695
This is a tricky question. There are a lot of references, but they don't preclude understanding. Declan Kiberd's Ulysses and Us says this more perfectly than I ever could.

Basically, to read any book and truly understand it, one would have to read every other book because intertextuality. Ulysses was in many ways written for people without any prior history with literature.