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>tfw you'll never be in WH Auden's English course and be assigned operas for class

>> No.3509560

lorenzo da ponte can hardly be called a literary master, so I'm not sure what he thinks he's doing. I also have to wonder why he attributes the libretti to the composers...

>> No.3509561

That's a pretty heavy reading load.

>> No.3509559

>>3509555
What's with all the Wagner?

>> No.3509564

>>3509560
Not all libretti are borrowed from literature.

>> No.3509566

What a fantastic course. Somewhat surprised to see the Pensées there, though. I've never understood its reputation.

>> No.3509569

>>3509564
What's your point? I just don't think Lorenzo da Ponte is a great poet. His words are worthless without the music

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3509570

David Foster Wallace's course is much better

>> No.3509577

>>3509570
And people take that guy seriously?

>> No.3509582

>>3509570
>BOOKS YOU HAVE TO BUY
>not Reading List

God.

>> No.3509591

>>3509570
>Jackie Collins
At least he was aware of how much of a joke he was

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>>3509570
>>3509555

Everyone loves C.S. Lewis.

>> No.3509600

If he wanted to do modern lit, he could have done something decent. Winterson, Atwood - anything but fucking Jackie Collins.

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3509594

The footnotes.

>> No.3509601

>>3509570
>you'll end up doing more work here than in other sections of 102, probably
lyl
>>3509555
>reading translated poetry

>> No.3509613

>>3509594
>discussion based no lectures
You can seriously undergrad in America and not get lectures? That's fucked up

>> No.3509624

>>3509613
It's one class. I doubt anybody gets through undergrad with no lectures.

>> No.3509633

>>3509624
Even so, I'm amazed you can go a whole module with nothing but seminars

>> No.3509675

No.3509555

I expect to hear this Professor play the piano or guitar, whilst reading to the kiddies the text and all of her disciples are expected to join in at any moment to partake in her grand symphony.

All of the students would have already taken the other romantic, Germanic and Slavic courses to begin with. So the texts ought not be to be translated. Except for the Greeks and Rimbaud's text for some reason.

As the History of the ladies and lads misdeeds are highlighted by the relevant books of their time.

And the love of sound is what you're left with once you realize this.

No.3509559
The mutton chops are seductive.

>> No.3509688

Is that reading for one semester?

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3510340

What's the best collection of WH Auden's poems? Or where is best to start?

>> No.3510377

As I walked out one evening,
Walking down Bristol Street,
The crowds upon the pavement
Were fields of harvest wheat.

And down by the brimming river
I heard a lover sing
Under an arch of the railway:
'Love has no ending.

'I'll love you, dear, I'll love you
Till China and Africa meet,
And the river jumps over the mountain
And the salmon sing in the street,

'I'll love you till the ocean
Is folded and hung up to dry
And the seven stars go squawking
Like geese about the sky.

'The years shall run like rabbits,
For in my arms I hold
The Flower of the Ages,
And the first love of the world.'

But all the clocks in the city
Began to whirr and chime:
'O let not Time deceive you,
You cannot conquer Time.

'In the burrows of the Nightmare
Where Justice naked is,
Time watches from the shadow
And coughs when you would kiss.

'In headaches and in worry
Vaguely life leaks away,
And Time will have his fancy
To-morrow or to-day.

'Into many a green valley
Drifts the appalling snow;
Time breaks the threaded dances
And the diver's brilliant bow.

'O plunge your hands in water,
Plunge them in up to the wrist;
Stare, stare in the basin
And wonder what you've missed.

'The glacier knocks in the cupboard,
The desert sighs in the bed,
And the crack in the tea-cup opens
A lane to the land of the dead.

'Where the beggars raffle the banknotes
And the Giant is enchanting to Jack,
And the Lily-white Boy is a Roarer,
And Jill goes down on her back.

'O look, look in the mirror,
O look in your distress:
Life remains a blessing
Although you cannot bless.

'O stand, stand at the window
As the tears scald and start;
You shall love your crooked neighbour
With your crooked heart.'

It was late, late in the evening,
The lovers they were gone;
The clocks had ceased their chiming,
And the deep river ran on.

>> No.3510404

>>3509559

A lot of his shit is based on frequently used folk tales and myths.

>> No.3510419

>>3510377
Woah how coincidental, I literally just read that before I posted:
>>3510340

>> No.3510444

>>3509688
One class of one semester

>> No.3510461

I might check out that recommended critical reading list

>> No.3510471

>>3510461

I'd have thought that the critical element would be the quickest to date and, consequently, the least useful.

>> No.3510479

>>3510340
>p-please respond

>> No.3511080

>>3509594
>having to reimburse profs for copies

Fuck that shit, what a cheapo.

>>3509613
I'd say the opposite is more prevalent and a bigger problem. Discussions tend to be the primary format in higher-level lit classes.

>> No.3511085

It's time for those Secret History feels.

>You will never study under the tutelage of savant of ancient Greek.
>You will never hang out with a tight-knit group of classy, ethereal, intellectual Classics majors.
>You will never have neo-Bacchanals.
>etc.