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>>>/co/46328408
This is what plebs actually believe

>> No.3477884

I used to feel that way, but it's just not true. There is no better way to explore ideas and situations than through fiction.

>> No.3477893

>>3477884
>implying fiction doesn't mistify reality and is worthy in anyway other than psychological insight

>> No.3477899

>>3477879
I think Aristotle raped that thesis to death.

>> No.3477895

Wow, you got trolled hard.

>> No.3477901

>>3477893
>implying reality is real
Get a load of this fagit

>> No.3477904

>>3477901
> #soedgy

>> No.3477915

>>3477904
How do you know that the reality you're living right now isn't a dream?

>> No.3477918

>>3477904
Man, I've been seeing this too much. When someone doesn't know what to reply to a legitimate post that goes outside of what a bandwagon feels, they spout edgy, as if it even meant something at this point

>> No.3477920

>>3477899
what did aristotle say

>> No.3477921

>>3477915
Because I'm the butterfly of wisdom.

>> No.3477924

>>3477915
How do you know that the dream you're dreaming right now isn't only a dream of the reality of dreams?

>> No.3477925

>>3477915
> #someta
How do you know that what YOU personally think makes sense?
go to bed cartesian daemon

>> No.3477932

>>3477925
>You personally
>what is solipsism
>what is quantum mechanics
>what is buddhist and daoist beliefs
>what is the matrix

>> No.3477938

>>3477920
Why not read Curran on Brecht on Aristotle on the value of fictive writing? http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.27/432222?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&d=21101689108841

>> No.3477939

>>3477879
That's what one person in /co/ believes.

>> No.3477942

>>3477920
Something about cathorses. It's some kind of animal that's as lazy as a cat and big and dumb as a horse, but you still feel an emotional connection to it.

>> No.3477943

>>3477918
the point wasn't make fun of real edginess
the point was to make fun of the triviality of that philosophical reflection.
Try to grow up, it's not middle age anymore

>> No.3477945

>>3477925
I'm hardly the only person that thinks that, you know.
My question stands.
How do you know?

>> No.3477952

>>3477945
If you're a Cartesian daemon, the answer is clear: Because God loves me.

>> No.3477950

>>3477932
legit lelz

>> No.3477954

>>3477945
>implying those persons aren't only part of yourself reflecting in the dream you're living
wake up sheeple

>> No.3477962

Can someone please explain the top gun hat thing to me?
I tottally missed this shit and I see it everywhere

>> No.3477963

>>3477952
>worshipping gods
>not worshipping your connection to the universe
Even if you chose to worship some planetary being, why would you even worship Zeus and not Prometheus? One nigger brings you fire, another brings you slavery. Gee, I wonder what should you choose.

>> No.3477964

>>3477938
Thanks

>> No.3477970

>>3477963
Who said anything about "worshipping"? God is de facto proved in the Cartesian apparatus.

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>>3477962
It's a screen cap from Workaholics that spawned a bajillion edits
Here's my favorite

>> No.3477980

>>3477970
>proved
>with a circular argument
Please, he did a nice try, but Kant ultimately stated it right: god has to be accepted as a necessary ipothesis to the construction of a coerent philosophical frame.
That's the point of "faith"

>> No.3477989

>>3477963
Failure to appreciate Spinoza's contribution to theology.

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>>3477980
>has to be accepted
my sides

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>> No.3478005

>>3477980
We can back this with some Kierkegaard if we're playing "no rules, no proofs" in the post 19th century context.

>> No.3478010

>>3477989
>not worshipping your connection to the universe
Although I haven't previously read Spinoza, I can aprecciate Spinoza's "contribution" just fine. Although is the same as the dao.

>> No.3478016

>>3478005
dunno can't stand Kierkegaard. Kantian god is a much more abstract entity, and I like to read it as 'kosmos' or 'universal reason'.
While Kant stay on the illumism side, Kierkegaard is close to the irrationalistic side of XIX century philosophy.

>> No.3478018

>>3478010
The dao is more consuming. Spinoza emphasises the cause of causes argument. The dao is continuously causal. Of course, both are commensurable.

>> No.3478042

>>3478016
The thing is, universal reason is impossible for non-universal consciousness. We need Kierkegaard as an out.

>> No.3478045

>>3478042
>non-universal consciousness
Such as?

>> No.3478070

>>3478045
Homo sapiens. If your consciousness is universal, tell me all about my nose, right now.

>> No.3478085

>>3478070
I'm not universally aware. Look for a person that has experienced gnosis and ask him that, dude. Although the "if you cant proof me this, it means is fake" is pretty dumb. You are setting a condition that can't be met.

But, to answer your question while being a smartass to adopt your own attitude, if you post a picture I can gladly tell you about your nose, because I'm -aware- of the universe, not fully experiencing every inch of it. I can even write a haiku about it. Maybe your concept of universal is wrongly perceived or taken at face value.

>> No.3478206

it can be a learning experience, but only as invocation. you still need proper life experience as well as a buff mind to partake in fiction fruitfully. nonfiction is the way to go for young people