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3450269 No.3450269 [Reply] [Original]

Who is the best author from

>The UK (including ireland)
>France
>Scandinavia
>Russia
>Central Europe
>Germany
>Spain
>Arabia
>The Far East
>The United States and Canada
>Latin America

>> No.3450273

>>3450269
>The UK (including ireland)
Why would you do that?

>> No.3450282

>>3450273
same reason I bunched the US and Canada in one; they're culturally similar and their authors have a ton of overlay, especially considering most well known Irish authors were educated in England

>> No.3450309

>>3450282
>they're culturally similar
You shouldn't have grouped either, a large amount of both Canadian and Irish culture is not being American/British. Irish to British is like American to British

>> No.3450315

>The UK (including ireland)
Jonathan Swift
>France
Marquis de Sade
>Scandinavia
None?
>Russia
Dostoevsky
>Central Europe
None?
>Germany
Heidigger
>Spain
Miguel de Cervantes
>Arabia
Muhammad
>The Far East
I don't know
>The United States and Canada
Mark Twain
>Latin America
None?

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3450343

>>3450315

>> No.3450354

>>3450315
I hope you are here with an open mind and willing to know new authors.

>> No.3450374

>>3450315
Muhammad was illiterate, try again.

And Latin America NONE? What about Gabriel Garcia Marquez

>> No.3450378

I can't speak to best, but I'll offer whom I enjoy most.

>The UK (including ireland)
Samuel Beckett
>France
Albert Camus
>Scandinavia
Henrik Ibsen
>Russia
Mikhail Bulgakov
>Central Europe
Franz Kafka
>Germany
Herman Hesse
>Spain
Cervantes
>Arabia
l"m not familiar with Arabic literature.
>The Far East
Yukio Mishima
>The United States and Canada
Kurt Vonnegut
>Latin America
Gabriel Garcia Marquez

In b4 pleb

>> No.3450382

>>3450378
>Bulgakov
>Mishima

mah nigger

>> No.3450413

>>3450269
>ITT : /lit/'s favorite / most recently read / only known authors from each country listed.

>> No.3450417

>>3450378
>Beckett

mein neger

>> No.3450419

>>3450269
>>The UK (including ireland)
Shakespeare
>>France
Dumas
>>Scandinavia
?
>>Russia
Dostoyevsky
>>Central Europe
Krasznahorkai
>>Germany
Marx
>>Spain
Cervantes
>>Arabia
?
>>The Far East
Endo
>>The United States and Canada
McCarthy
>>Latin America
Márquez

>> No.3450437

>>3450419
>Marx
>laughinggirls.jpg

ah, hell. Im just being snarky.

>> No.3450441

>The UK (including ireland)
Shakespeare
>France
Descartes
>Scandinavia
Kierkegaard
>Russia
Tolstoy
>Central Europe
Potocki
>Germany
Goethe
>Spain
Cervantes
>Arabia
Tufail
>The Far East
Du Fu
>The United States and Canada
William James
>Latin America
Machado de Assis

>> No.3450455

>The UK (including ireland)
Shakespeare
>France
Balzac
>Scandinavia
Snorri Sturluson (in the old sense, I guess?)
>Russia
Tolstoy
>Central Europe
Kafka
>Germany
Goethe
>Spain
Cervantes
>The United States and Canada
Herman Melville

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3450464

>no India
>mfw

>> No.3450471

>>3450464
Wikipedia:
2 Indian literature in common Indian languages

2.1 Assamese literature
2.2 Bengali literature
2.3 Bhojpuri literature
2.4 English literature
2.5 Hindi literature
2.6 Gujarati literature
2.7 Kannada literature
2.8 Kashmiri literature
2.9 Malayalam literature
2.10 Manipuri literature
2.11 Marathi literature
2.12 Mizo literature
2.13 Nepali literature
2.14 Oriya literature
2.15 Punjabi literature
2.16 Rajasthani literature
2.17 Sanskrit literature
2.18 Sindhi literature
2.19 Tamil literature
2.20 Telugu literature
2.21 Urdu literature

WHO HAS TIME FOR ALL THAT BULLSHIT

>> No.3450472

>>3450464
>posts an Englishman

>> No.3450477

"The human mind is generally far more eager to praise and dispraise than to describe and define. It wants to make every distinction a distinction of value; hence those fatal critics who can never point out the differing quality of two poets without putting them in an order of preference as if they were candidates for a prize.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves

>> No.3450481

>>3450477
Lewis was a baller.

>> No.3450495

>>3450472
Rushdie's parents are both Indian, and he was born in Bombay. Being educated in Britain does not make him British.

>> No.3450496

>>3450477

I do enjoy Lewis. Even his theological and apologist work, though flawed from the perspective of a non-believer, are interesting and compelling.

>> No.3450510

>The UK (including ireland)
Shakespeare
>France
Voltaire
>Scandinavia
Hamsun
>Russia
Nabokov
>Central Europe
Kafka
>Germany
Geothe
>Spain
Cervantes
>Arabia
Camus
>The Far East
Haven't read enough
>The United States and Canada
Melville
>Latin America
Garcia Marquez

>> No.3450515
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3450515

>>3450269
Dr. Seuss
I enjoyed the green ham and eggs series
what about you?

>> No.3450530

>>The UK (including ireland)
Joyce
>France
Celine
>Scandinavia
Hamsun
>Russia
Nabby
>Central Europe
Kafka
>Germany
Freitag
>>Spain
Clarin
>>Arabia
Al-Hariri
>>The Far East
Ryu Murakami
>>The United States and Canada
Bukowski
>>Latin America
Marquez

>> No.3450553

>The UK (including ireland)
John Milton
>France
Voltaire
>Scandinavia
Strindberg
>Russia
Zoshchenko
>Central Europe
?
>Germany
Freud
>Spain
Maimonides
>Arabia
?
>The Far East
Natsume Soseki
>The United States and Canada
Mark Twain
>Latin America
?

>> No.3450645

>The UK (including ireland)
George Orwell
>France
Albert Camus
>Scandinavia
Knut Hamsun
>Russia
Fyodor Dostoevsky
>Central Europe
Franz Kafka
>Germany
Hermann Hesse
>Spain
Cervantes
>Arabia
Shit, i need to read some Arab writers
>The Far East
Lao Tzu
>The United States and Canada
J.D. Salinger
>Latin America
Isabel Allende

>> No.3450670
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3450670

>>3450315
>>3450378
>>3450419
>>3450441
>>3450510
>>3450530
>>3450553
>>3450645
>Latin America
>No Borgers
Do you even read /lit/?

>> No.3450678

>T.S Eliot
>Foucault
>Peter Hoeg
>Turgenev
>Kafka
>Walter Benjamin
>Javier Marias
>idk
>Haruki Murakami (don't give me that look)
>either John Steinbeck or W.H Auden
>Roberto Bolano

pleb as fuck i know. Also i'm aware that Eliot was born in America and Auden in England but both switched places and citizenship

>> No.3450683

This thread should make everyone who posted earnestly ashamed. But they probably aren't.

>> No.3450717

>>3450670
>criticising and then suggesting baby's first Latin American author

>> No.3450830

>United States and Canada
LeBlanc
trololololol
Hemingway

>> No.3450833

>>3450717
But GGM is babby's first Latin American author.

>> No.3450834
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3450834

>>3450830
>LeBlanc

>> No.3450852

>>3450315
>Central Europe
>Not Kadka

>> No.3450855

>>3450510
>Arabia
>Camus

8/10, somewhat rustled.

>> No.3450869

>>3450269
Amis
Celine
Ibsen
Bulgakov
Kafka
Goethe
Cervantes
Ala-al-din abu Al-Hassan Ali ibn Abi-Hazm al-Qarshi al-Dimashqi
Soseki
David Foster Wallace
Borges

>> No.3450884

>>3450419
>>>Central Europe
>Krasznahorkai
Hell yes.

>> No.3450888

>>3450717

Try Julio Cortázar and Juan José Saer

>> No.3453287

bump

>> No.3453295

but germany is in ccentral europe?

>> No.3453302

>The UK (including ireland)
Shakespeare
>France
Rabelais
>Scandinavia
Dunno
>Russia
Gogol
>Central Europe
Kafka
>Germany
Goethe
>Spain
Cervantes
>Arabia
Mohammed. If you include Persia, Rumi.
>The Far East
Dunno
>The United States and Canada
Emmy Dickinson
>Latin America
Gabby Marquez

>> No.3453304

>>3453295
yes

>> No.3453309

>>3450833
This anon gets it.

>> No.3453316

>Orwell
>Verne
ditto
>Tolstey
>no idea
>Marx
>
>
>
>Hemmingway

>> No.3453317

>>The UK (including ireland)
Will Self
>>France
Houellebecq
>>Scandinavia
Hamsun
>>Russia
Nechayev
>>Central Europe
Cioran
>>Germany
Hitler
>>Spain
Franco
>>Arabia
Mohammed
>>The Far East
Mishima
>>The United States and Canada
Ragnar Redbeard
>>Latin America
No.

>> No.3453319

>>3453309

Gets what? How to disregard the best because they happen to be well known?

>> No.3453360

Norwegian here.

If you put anyone other than Ibsen as the best one for us, you're an idiot.

Just letting you know. It's nice that you've read Hunger and so on, but please...

>> No.3453399

>>3453360

That's nice, but Norwegian wasn't one of the categories.

>> No.3453408

>>3453399

i think by "us" he meant Scandinavians

>> No.3453428

>The UK (including ireland)
Samuel Beckett
>France
Georges Perec
>Scandinavia
not familiar.
>Russia
Vladimir Nabokov
>Central Europe
Franz Kafka
>Germany
Heidegger
>Spain.
Miguel de Cervantes
>Arabia
not familiar.
>The Far East
Ryūnosuke Akutagawa
>The United States and Canada
Herman Melville
>Latin America
Julio Cortazar

>> No.3454557

>Scandinavia
>writing nothing instead of Jostein Gaarder

>> No.3454689

>Byron
>Moliere
>Kierkegaard
>dunno
>dunno
>Goethe
>Cervantes
>meh
>some Jap
>not a Jew
>someone we've never heard of

>> No.3454725

this categories are ridiculous

>Russia

pushkin

>> No.3454741

>>3450315
>Scandinavia
>None?

>Central Europe
>None?

>Latin America
>None?
I wish I could hate you to death.

>> No.3454745

>>3450441
>Kierkegard.

You lying sack of shit.

>> No.3454918

Where's Finland?

>> No.3454922

>>3454918
Scandinavia.

>> No.3454925
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3454925

>>3454922
>Scandinavia
>Finland

Finland isn't part of Scandinavia. It's part of Nordic countries but not Scandinavia. Please, learn your geography.

>> No.3454933

>>3454922
But where's Finland?

>> No.3454934

>The UK (including ireland)
Shakespeare
>France
Flaubert
>Scandinavia
Strindberg
>Russia
Dostoyvesky
>Central Europe
Kafka
>Germany
Goethe
>Spain
Cervantes
>Arabia
?
>The Far East
Sun Tzu?
>The United States and Canada
Melville probably
>Latin America
I've only read one and I doubt it's Gabriel Marcia Marquez


Also where is italy? Or ancient greek and rome?

>> No.3454939

>>3454925
I've never gotten this particular part. The Finish have very little to do with the Nordic or Scandinavian histories, language family or culture.
I understand Denmark,Iceland,Sweden, and Norway -- but why didn't you lot include Germany?

I mean, hell, the languages are related and the histories are so connected that both must be explained in a history class. Not to mention they're all Germanic peoples.

Is it a fear of the entire Nazi thing or what?

>> No.3454943

>>3454939
Finnish culture is very, very near to Swedish culture. The language isn't near AT ALL to German. Finns are part of Finno-Ugric nations.

Either you didn't pay attention in school or your education system sucks and you're ignorant.

>> No.3454966

>The UK (including ireland)
Charles Dickens
>France
Andre Gide
>Scandinavia
Knut Hamsun
>Russia
Fyodor Dostoevsky
>Central Europe
Milan Kundera
>Germany
Herman Hesse
>Spain
Miguel de Cervantes
>Arabia
Naguib Mahfouz
>The Far East
Haruki Murakami
>The United States and Canada
Mark Twain
>Latin America
Gabriel Garcia Marquez

>> No.3454987

>>3454943
Finn here, that is fucking false. It's almost the same as if you'd call the Japanese culture to be "very, very near" to Chinese culture.

>> No.3454989
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3454989

>The UK (including ireland)

LEWIS CARROLL.

>France

N/A.

>Scandinavia

KNUT HAMSUN.

>Russia

VLADIMIR NABOKOV.

>Central Europe

N/A.

>Germany

THOMAS MANN.

>Spain

N/A.

>Arabia

N/A.

>The Far East

OSAMU DAZAI.

>The United States and Canada

JEROME DAVID SALINGER.

>Latin America

N/A.

>> No.3455010

>>3454943
Near to Swedish? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA/
Oh, holy shit, that made me laugh. You're thinking of the other Baltic countries like Estonia.

Swedish , Norwegian, and Danish are all very close to German (not to mention they are all in the same language family). So yes, I did pay attention in school (in Denmark) and apparently you have NO idea what you're talking about.

Keep trying to troll or atleast tell yourself that Finland is someway connected to the other nations (it isnt).

Germany is closer to our culture than Finland, by a long shot.

>> No.3455011

>>3450869
Martin or Kingsley?

>> No.3455024

>>3455010
>>3454943
>>3454939
dude.. you are in the scandinavic peninsula thus you are scandinavic

>> No.3455027

>>3454987
Actually, it is. I live in Japan.

Their culture is very similar to Chinese culture. Want to know how? Sure, I'll take you down some interesting facts:

Japanese counting has two different systems: The old Chinese method (ichi, ni, san, yon...) and the original Japanese method (hitotsu, futatsu,mitstu etc).

They also seperate words of Chinese origin and also follow the Chinese calander, especially to name their periods of time (which is still used to day, Heisei period) which relates to the Emporers of Japan and the stars.

They also follow Chinese customs of Obon and also use Kanji.

The Japanese themselves trace their origin to China.

So, care to keep battling?

>> No.3455040

>>3455027
>follow the Chinese calande
So yesterday was Japan's new year as well?

>> No.3455048

>>3455024
That isn't the point. I'm pointing to why we've not included Germany into our ring of culture. We have Iceland, for some reason?

Northern Germany was very important to our history up until what? 15th century? We're also Germanic peoples and our languages are related (not as much as Swedish,Norwegian, and Danish though). Different areas with ours being North and theirs being Western, but German grammar had a big impact on our modern language (especially in definative form).

>> No.3455047

>The UK (including ireland)

u wot m8?

What about the best UK author including Zimbabwe?
The best French author including Louisiana?

>> No.3455052

>>3455040
It was actually being celebrated today here in Kobe.

The Japanese celebrate both New Years and the Chinese new year. The Heisei period will change when ever there is a new Emporer.

>> No.3455081

>>3455052
I mean *emporer
Sorry, I've been drinking today. Tomorrow is a national holiday over here.

>> No.3455084

>>3455027
Your post actually made me look up comparisons and contrasts of the Japanese and Chinese cultures.

Anyway, excuse me if the comparison was uninformed, the pooint was that Finnish and Swedish cultures are not almost the same as you implied. Of course the differences probably seem smaller to an outsider than a native, but it is still wrong.

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>>3455081
FUCKING....EMPEROR

>> No.3455090

>>3455084
I didn't say that Finish and Swedish culture are the same. I said they were very different.

Re-read what I said. I was saying that Finish culture is unique and not like Swedish. I was saying that the Nordic cultures are very similar to German culture.

Our languages are related as well (German and Danish , etc.) Finish is in it's own family, closer to Estonian if I remember correctly?

>> No.3455099

>>3455084
Oh wait, Gods! I'm sorry, I thought you were the other guy. I agree with you -- The Finish culture and Swedish culture are vastly different.

I replied to you first, it is my fault. We're both on the same side of the argument. My apologies.

>> No.3455119

>>3455090
>Finnish culture is very, very near to Swedish culture

Who said this? That is what roused my butthurt.

Finnish and Hungarian are related and Estonian is bit like a little brother to Finnish(not that I imply that Finnish is somehow superior)

>> No.3455121

>>3455099
>>3455119
Ah, now I see. No hard feelings etc.

>> No.3455131

>>3455121
I think the entire thing they had going over at /b should happen here with the ID tags. It'd help clear up alot of confusion.

>> No.3455209

>>3454939
Germany have had very little to do with the Nordics culturally since the fall of Western Rome. They also don't really belong geographically (which is why they went their own way culturally, btw) and if it's about language the Anglo-Saxons should be included too.

Also, they are big and scary and has always been ever since the founding of the Holy Roman Empire.

>> No.3455212

>>3455131
I concur. I've been seeing a lot of confusion here with debaters getting mixed up.

>> No.3455459

>>3455209
Dude, part of Germany is in the Baltic sea. Infact, the German culture was a huge impact on Danish Culture, even after the fall of Western Rome.

If you don't believe me, you need to look up past the Viking age and into the Middle ages (where the German boarder and the Danish boarder are not defined well at all. To this day, the German and Danish border has a unique and strong dialect which is often difficult to tell which is which.

Anglo-Saxon is not a lanuage, but a people. You are thinking of Old English. Yes, the Saxons invaded England and yes, Saxons were Germans -- but they also did it via Viking style (and even fought the Norse raiders in England). Viking, by the bye, is a verb and not a noun. It meant to , literally, go viking, which was raiding.

The German culture has tons to do with our culture -- not to mention it is where our old religions come from. Odin = Wotan , Thor = Tor
, Loki = Logi.

Their religion was far older than our own and we know this even now in Denmark.

Again, I think we've done the Germans an injustice and should set matters right.

>> No.3455465

>>3450645
Damn, I've found my clone. Been looking for you since that laboratory accident.

>> No.3455473

>>3455459
>Viking, by the bye, is a verb and not a noun. It meant to , literally, go viking, which was raiding.
Source, please. As far as I know, its literal meaning is simply "someone from the vik ('inlet', 'fjord')".

>> No.3455505

>>3455459
Danes have been influenced by Germans because of the close proximity but that doesn't mean the rest of the North has, to any great extent.

Yes, the Anglo-Saxon is a people; a people that speak a Germanic language -- that was my point. If you go by language and include Germany you ought to include England as well, which is really bizarre.

Dude, I said "since the fall of Western Rome", Germans were going towards Christianity by then. I know of our shared past, I'm talking about us not being very alike TODAY, or even during the last 1.5k years.

What injustice? Fuck 'em, they can handle themselves. See: >big and scary

>> No.3455514

>>3455473
This. Don't remember what the explaination to the "viking = pirate" sounds like, but "someone from the vik ('inlet', 'fjord')" makes much more sense.

>> No.3455583

>>3450441this

>> No.3455834

>The UK (including ireland)
J.R.R. Tolkien
>France
Albert Camus
>Scandinavia
Knut Hamsun
>Russia
Fyodor Dostoevsky
>Central Europe
Franz Kafka
>Germany
Thomas Mann
>Spain
Miguel de Cervantes
>Arabia

>The Far East
Yukio Mishima
>The United States and Canada
John Steinbeck
>Latin America
Gabriel Garcia Marquez

>> No.3458456

>>3455473
Swedefag reporting in. the Danefag isnt wrong. we learn the same in school. It is still used today in a sense to mean to scare people in my area.
http://www.abc.se/~pa/publ/vik-oartm
>>3455505
i also understand why the Danefag is asking the questions about Germany. Our culture in Sweden is very close to today's Germany with certain holidays and many of our royal families having married together before the end of German royality.
England was just a battle ground for the Norse and Saxons, just like in France (the name Normandy comes from Nordman = Northman).
They can not, therefore, be counted like a Norse country -- even though our peoples settled there for a while. We also settled Ireland and had great wars. But culture wise back then and even up to today, there are many things we share with one another.
There is a very interesting English lecture by an American expert on the Viking age. He also agrees about Germany's importance to the Norse culture (highly recommend and great audio book series):
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/46159

>> No.3458461

The Middle East should be a category in place of Arabia, as that would allow Persian writers to be chosen.

>> No.3458462

>>3455473
>Go viking
>Go raiding
>my swedish face when

Vik means inlet, or more literally a fold. It's where the shore folds inward. A vik or an inlet.

Finland has very close ties with the rest of scandinavia. Fuck the vikings managed to make their way to America, why wouldn't they have made their way across the baltic sea?

Because the area that later became Finland was annexed by Sweden during the 13th century and was ruled by Swedish monarchs up until 1809.

Sweden ruled finland for 500 years. I consider them bro's and it's a damn shame that we didn't help in WW2.

>> No.3458472

>The UK (including ireland)
Shakespeare
>France
Camus
>Scandinavia
Kierkegaard
>Russia
Tolstoy
>Central Europe
Krasznahorkai
>Germany
Goethe
>Spain
Cervantes
>Arabia
I don't have a fucking clue
>The Far East
Mishima
>The United States and Canada
Melville
>Latin America
Borges

You missed out Southern Europe btw, bro.

>> No.3458490

>UK/Ireland
James Joyce
>France
Albert Camus
>Scandinavia
Knut Hamsun
>Russia
Leo Tolstoy
>Central Europe
Bohumil Hrabal
>Germany
Thomas Mann
>Spain
Miguel de Cervantes
>Arabia
Naguib Mahfouz
>Far East
Haruki Murakami
>US/Canada
Kurt Vonnegut
>Latin America
Roberto Bolaño

>> No.3458501

>>3450269

>UK
James Joyce

>France
Ducasse

>Scandinavia
Hjalmar Söderberg

>Russia
Nabokov

>Central Europe
Kafka

>Germany
Goethe

>The rest

Don't know too many of them, but for the US I'd say DFW, Latin America perhaps Vargas Llosa. Dunno about Canada.

>> No.3458503

>>3458501

Oh, I misinterpreted Far East. I'll put Mishima on that one.

>> No.3458507

>>3458501
Söderberg, I-i'm impressed son. Surely you must be a swede?

>> No.3458511

>>3458507

Yes, indeed. In my opinion he deserved far more recognition than plebs like Strindberg and Lagerlöf.

>> No.3458518

>>3458511
I think it's fair to say that Strindberg was ahead of Söderberg in time and quantity (not quality).

Lagerlöf was more religious and rural (woman and dyke as well, which is pretty popular now).

However come the turn of the 20th century, Söderberg is unrivaled if you ask me.

They are all my three greats of swedish literature. I have three more contemporar as well and those are Sara Lidman, Pär Lagerkvist and Torgny Lindgren.

>> No.3458521

>>3458518

I agree. Oh, you want to know something funny? I kinda know Torgny Lindgren in real life. He lives in my town and my mother is a good friend of his wife. I have some books signed by him which I should get to reading. I haven't read Sara Lidman, though, perhaps I should.

What do you think of Martinson? I didn't really fall for his writing, but I still found him to be very good.