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>I love it when some pseudo-intellectual vocal minority tries to enforce its little uppity (and completely deluded) vision of what is literature and what /lit/ should be. Many tier charts suggest that /lit/ should be a very close circle of "patricians" (concept stolen from /mu/) collectively circle-jerking about Ulysses, Finnegans Wake and Infinite Jest. In reality, no one has ever read FW, maybe three people have read Ulysses and IJ is mainly used for trolling purposes. It's also funny to watch how /lit/ used to love ASOIAF back in the days and then started hating it with all its guts because it was adapted in a "popular" (!) TV show. Those who remember the shitfest that was early /lit/ (the same shitfest that made mods create an artificial rule 3 about Ayn Rand) can't and won't ever take /lit/ seriously.

What have we become?

>> No.3445944

I gotta say, apart from the bandana, DFW's fashion sense was very convoluted.

>> No.3445950

reading is for fagits

>> No.3445951

The more time you spend here, the less you get out of it.

>> No.3445956

"no fun allowed"

- OP 2013

>> No.3445963

I'm pretty sure IJ is not just a meme, since it's on many top book lists, and was hailed by critics. Ulysses as well is fantastic.

You're right about FW.

>> No.3445968

>>3445927
>Many tier charts suggest that /lit/ should be a very close circle of "patricians" (concept stolen from /mu/) collectively circle-jerking about Ulysses, Finnegans Wake and Infinite Jest.

This is exactly what should happen.
Then we could get some real critical analysis done.

>> No.3445974

>>3445927

> It's also funny to watch how /lit/ used to love ASOIAF back in the days and then started hating it with all its guts because it was adapted in a "popular" (!) TV show.

this I agree with because I observed it myself. I've also never read the books or seen the show, so the rapid tone-change of the forum was quite noticeable.

Also your post is stupid because
1. you're trolling softly
and
2.
>Those who remember ... early /lit/ ...
>What have we become?
/lit/ has always sucked. stop whining or go somewhere else

>> No.3445979

>>3445974

hey guys, it's OP talking to himself!

>> No.3445985

>>3445968
GET
THE
FUCK
OUT

>> No.3445987

>>3445974
>/lit/ has always sucked
Like you've been here all this time
If it sucked so bad, why do you still visit?

>> No.3445995

>>3445979
two things

1. lol, agreeing with OP = samefagging now? your gaydar must be borked, mang
and
2. can't you notice the idiosyncratic differences in my post and OP's post? totally different. either way, who gives a shit. but this thread is shit anyway

>> No.3446002

>>3445987
because sometimes there are great discussions. I also like the anonymity and I am not bothered by trolling, shitposting, or retards.

>> No.3446019

>IJ is mainly used for trolling purposes
>pic of DFW

>> No.3446031
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3446031

Finnegans Wake is, quite deliberately, a Koan for the Occident. Stop ridiculing people for their curiosity, even if their reach exceeds their grasp.

>> No.3446095

but a dance of dragons was actually kinda bad

mostly because of daeny

>> No.3446121

GRRM is an objectively bad writer.

Get over it, faggot.

>> No.3446137

The only people who like Infinite Jest are the ones who've read it.

>> No.3446139 [DELETED] 

>>3446002
/lit/ is like this love / hate relationship, people keep asking why we come back here, and we have to keep posting about good sides and beautiful parts of it.

In fact, /lit/ is actually using domestic violence on us

>> No.3446140

>>3446139
fuck off with your bullshit

>> No.3446179

>>3446121
>thinking art is objectivistic
>thinking art is subjectivistic
>not knowing /Erlebnis/ is an immediate unity of the world and consciousness
Stay non-phenomenologistic, dilettante

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3446193

I browse for the jokes.

Fuck you OP.

>> No.3446221

>>3445927

A shit board.

I barely bother coming here, anymore.

>>3445974

>/lit/ has always sucked.

It was actually a nice place for the first 2, maybe 3 months, all the way back in 2010.

>> No.3446245

I just finished Infinite Jest for the second time today.

Far better than it seems the first time. Ending makes more sense - in fact, an actual ending can be gleaned from things you pick up on during a second read through.

If you're not up for that, just at least look up some explanations of Infinite Jest. Is it still a convoluted mess of tangential bullshit? Yeah. But it's at least a moderately well planned convoluted mess of tangential bullshit.

>> No.3446269

I haven't see many /lit/ fags who actually claim to have read FW. It's not really litcore either.

>> No.3446283

>>3446269
>litcore
shut your filthy fucking mouth

>> No.3446324

The ironic thing is that Gravity's Rainbow is far more complex and difficult than Finnegans Wake and most of /lit/ has been able to tackle that one.

>> No.3446366

>>3445951

I find this true as well. Thank you

>> No.3446374

>>3446324
Even Ulysses is more challenging than Gravity's Rainbow. What the fuck are you even talking about?

>> No.3446386

>>3445974
>lit/ has always sucked. stop whining or go somewhere else

ITT: Stop fucking up the things I fucked up. (My view and views like mine should be the only shape-ers of /lit/)

>> No.3446389

>>3446324
>Gravity's Rainbow is far more complex and difficult than Finnegans Wake
That's just wrong.

>> No.3446395

Anna Livia Plurabelle

>> No.3446413

there are just too many plebbous newanons running around what used to be a well-rounded and intelligent /lit/ even if it still sucked ass. now the level of discourse has descended to a sort of psuedo-intelligent /b/ 3.5 level

>> No.3446429

We were invaded by /mu/, and various other boards, bringing alone their shitty board culture. That's what happened

>> No.3446431

>no one has ever read FW
Speak for yourself.

>> No.3446439

>>3446413

yes i find many people on here to be mere pseuedo intellectuals and not proper well read intellectuals like me who have studied the many great minds and works that this world has to offer and come here to impart some of my well travelled wisdom onto other more ignorant /lit/ users, perhaps changing their life in some way. would i call myself a wisdom philanthropist or some sort of genius scholar christ like in some way who has dedicated his life to selflessly helping the poor misguided many? no, i wouldn't. that's for others to describe. as for this thread i do declare that i have happened upon such a quagmire of scenarios before in the great work 'donnie darko' possibly the greatest piece of cinema ever crafted by human hands when the lead donnie is etc

>> No.3446445

>>3446439
geek. get laid.

>> No.3446456

>>3446445

>thinking i'm serious
>hasn't realised i am taking the piss out of you
>hasn't realised i am pretending to be the sort of person who has ruined /lit/
>inability to parse a text critically

Sir..

>> No.3446467

>>3446456
>didn't notice my own incredibly deep irony

Son, I'm better than you.

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3446475

>>3446467

I laughed.

>> No.3446497

Who are you quoting?

>> No.3447063

>>3446245
The ending is utter bullshit. It just ends so abruptly.
Keeps introducing new characters right up till the end.

>> No.3449264

>>3446193
haha I created that thread. good to see it somewhat remembered.

>> No.3449659

Daily reminder that when DFW was 14 he dragged his sister through dog shit.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/thishould-not-be-a-love-story-readindt-maxs-biography-of-david-fosterallace/

>> No.3449675

>>3446475
Saved.