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"Without great solitude, no serious work is possible"
Picasso

Does this make sense to you?

>> No.3409046

Absolutely.

>> No.3409049

>>3409046

Great solitude make me feel scary. Don't know.

>> No.3409052

>>3409027
which reminded me about a Tarkoski video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bs7JJ_bM

>> No.3409056

>>3409049
>Great solitude make me feel scary

ahahah

>> No.3409058

>>3409027

>I am autistic, here is my justification.

No, I don't agree.

>> No.3409060

>>3409056

Try to place you in the middle of that situation. Not just briefly thinking about it. Is it ok for you?

>> No.3409064

you need a certain level of understanding about human interaction to write a good novel/story

which doesn't necessarily invalidate picrass' point but p. much every good story writer is a socialite or was one at some point in their life

poetry and artwork though def. needs alone time, both bank more on craft than novels/short stories do

>> No.3409076

yeah

it made sense to nietzsche too

>> No.3409082

>>3409060
yeah it makes me feel like freddy krueger lmao

>> No.3409136

Yes, but I think people often misinterpret that.

I think solitude is in the mind, not much in physical space, it's not about staying at home alone the entire day, though it may be that as well. To be alone is not to be lonely.

Solitude refers there, in my opinion, to a privacy of mind. Not to have a lot of mouths speaking inside your head. That is, when you're working, to shut down the world and the people in it, so that you can put yourself into your endeavour absolutely alone. Picasso had a very active social life, but he also had moments of seclusion.

I like to see creative work as if the artist was merely a double funnel in the shape of an hourglass, almost a knot. He condenses all that he touches and hear, all the people, all the artworks seen, all the books read, experiences, memories. And from there it gets to an infinitesimal tiny passage from which the artist let his art go through, projected, excreted. It's a mysterious process, but that also requires certain discipline.

The thing about solitude is, for me, a way to say that you'll only let this light pass through you, only through the funnel. And that if it doesn't go through it, it doesn't speak of you, from you or through you. It shouldn't be there.

Solitude is about eliminating loud noises in sound, sight and ego. Much like a telescope has to point to the darkest place in the sky to see further. You have to turn of the lights so you can see your own light with more clarity.

>> No.3409155

"Conversation enriches the understanding, but solitude is the school of genius" - Gibbon on Muhammad

>> No.3409162

>>3409064
More importantly, I think we can say that artistic insight requires distance (of time, space, etc), rather than solitude. Look at Joyce, Hemingway etc etc

>> No.3409166

>>3409162
>Look at [...] Hemingway
>artistic insight

>> No.3409172

>>3409166
>implying hemingway wasn't a master of prose no matter what your preferences towards it are.

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3409178

>>3409172
>hemingway
>master of prose

>> No.3409186

>>3409178
>implying his bare bones narrative technique isn't stunningly appropriate for his texts.
>Implying it's easy to do, let alone well.

>> No.3409688

bump

>> No.3409712

>>3409178
I see why this anon is confused and believes "Hemingway" to be bad. You see, the first person misspelled his name - it's "Hemmingway". There's two m's.

>> No.3409799

>>3409136
l'enfer c'est les autres. You don't have to be alone, but in the company of others they can influence your opinions and actions so that what you create isn't really you, and it can be difficult to remain purely "yourself".

>> No.3409809

Yep, this is totally why I dont have any friends

>> No.3409824

>>3409799
Exactly, anon. The famous quote fits right in with Picasso's. The others are mirrors: they judge, limit, encourage and discourage, they blind you with the light they reflect. But the canvas, the white sheet of paper, the instrument, these things are waiting to receive the image you project onto them.

>> No.3409855

>>3409799
>they can influence your opinions and actions so that what you create isn't really you, and it can be difficult to remain purely "yourself".
This is the stupidest shit I've read today.
Thank you dear sir

>> No.3409862

>>3409855
You didn't have to be so mean.
he can't help being an undergrad.