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Hungarian novelist László Krasznahorkai reads from his recently translated novel, Sátántangó, and discusses the state of contemporary Hungarian literature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_DinPaUg

transcript http://www.loc.gov/today/cyberlc/transcpts/2012/120613plc1600.txt

>> No.3406927

does the novel have anything to do with the 7h movie?

>> No.3406936

>>3406927
Yes, the film is based on that

>> No.3409304

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>> No.3409423

>>3406936
Funny given how short the novel is

>> No.3409475

I've been meaning to read The Melancholy of Resistance for about 18 months, but never get around to it.

I wonder if this board likes Eastern European authors as much as it claims, or if it's just to look 'smart'. I can't even tell anymore.

>> No.3409481

>>3409475
Krasznahorkai is hipster level max. His shit is so crazy that most of normalfags are put of instantaneously

>> No.3409503

>>3409481
Hipster level max why? Just because he (as Bela Tarr) are the total mainstream-opposite?

>> No.3409543

>>3409475

shut the fuck up sunhog read skylark

>> No.3409564

>>3406855
the movie is better. I did not find nothing un-usual in the novel. Balzac.

>> No.3409573

Can someone translate The Tourin Horse script?

http://www.krasznahorkai.hu/docs/Aorinoi_lo_forgatokonyv.pdf

>> No.3409574

>>3409475
>implying there are people who don't love Slavoj Zizek

>> No.3409582

>>3409573

Take this http://translate.google.com/transle?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pPT&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2ww.krasznahorkai.hu%2Fdocs%2FA_tonoi_lo_forgatokonyv.pdf

>> No.3409588

>>3409573
I'm Hungarian but there is no way I'll translate that much text, sorry.

>> No.3409598

>>3409588
and I believe that Krasznahorkai sentences are difficult to translate to english. am i right?

>> No.3409615

>>3409598
I didn't even think about that, I'm just a random guy on the internet so either way you could only get a butchered translation with a lot of things lost.

>> No.3409658

>>3406855
According to the anglo-american world Hungarian culture peaked with Vlad the Impaler.

>> No.3411867
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3411867

Bernard: “I’ve run out of palinka. Would you give me a bottle?”
Ohlsdorfer: “Give him some… Why didn’t you go into town?"
B: "The wind’s blown it away."
O: "How come?"
B: "It’s gone to ruin."
O: "Why would it go to ruin?"
B: "Because everything’s in ruins, everything’s been degraded, but I could say that they’ve ruined and degraded everything. Because this is not some kind of cataclysm, coming about with so-called innocent human aid. On the contrary, it’s about man’s own judgement over his own self, which of course God has a hand in, or dare I say: takes part in. And whatever he takes part in is the most ghastly creation that you can imagine. Because you see the world has been debased. So it doesn’t matter what I say because everything has been debased that they’ve acquired and since they’ve acquired everything in a sneaky, underhand fight, they’ve debased everything. Because whatever they touch – and they touch everything – they’ve debased. This is the way it was until the final victory. Until the triumphant end. Acquire debase, debase, acquire. Or I can put it differently if you like: to touch, debase and thereby acquire, or touch, acquire and thereby debase. It’s been going on like this for centuries. On, on, and on. This and only this, sometimes on the sly, sometimes rudely, sometimes gently, sometimes brutally but it has been going on and on. Yet only in one way, like a rat attacks from ambush. Because for this perfect victory it was also essential that the other side… That is, everything that’s excellent, great in some way and noble should not engage in any kind of fight. There shouldn’t be any kind of struggle, just the sudden disappearance of one side, meaning the disappearance of the excellent, the great and the noble.

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3411868

So that by now these winning winners who attack from ambush rule the earth, and there isn’t a single tiny nook where one can hide something from them. Because everything they can lay their hands on is theirs. Even things we think they can’t reach but they do reach are also theirs, because the sky is already theirs and all our dreams. Theirs is the moment, nature, infinite silence. Even immortality is theirs, you understand? Everything, everything is lost forever! And those many noble great and excellent just stood there, if I can put it that way. They stopped at this point and had to understand and had to accept that there is neither god nor gods. And the excellent, the great and the noble had to understand and accept this night from the beginning. But of course they were quite incapable of understanding it. They believed it and accepted it but they didn’t understand it. They just stood there, bewildered but not resigned until something – that spark from the brain – finally enlightened them. And all at once they realized that there is neither god nor gods. All at once they saw that there is neither good nor bad. Then they saw and understood that if this was so, then they themselves do not exist either! You see, I reckon this may have been the moment when we can say that were extinguished, they burnt out. Extinguished and burnt out like the fire left to smolder in the meadow. One was the constant loser one was the constant winner. Defeat victory defeat victory and one day here in the neighborhood I had to realize, and I did realize, that I was mistaken, I was truly mistaken when I thought that there has never been and could never be any kind of change here on earth. Because believe me, I know now that this change has indeed taken place."

>> No.3412710

>>3409481
Shut the fuck up yah dog fucker

>> No.3412866

is he like 98% of other modern eastern european writers ie writing about how shitty it is to live in eastern europe?

>> No.3412911

>>3412866
>writing about how shitty it is to live in eastern europe?
Certainly Russian lit is nothing like this, but then Russia isn't really Eastern Europe.

>> No.3412944

>>3412866
Not really, though it's probably a high percentage. There are plenty of other imaginative writers. Ewald Murrer, Andrzej Stasiuk, Olga Tokarczuk, Zoran Zivkovic, Milorad Pavic, Dumitru Tsepeneag, Michal Ajvaz, etc.

>> No.3413235

>>3412944

Those people have scarily alien names.

But yeah, lol @ all the EE writers talking about how bad EE is. Probably true.

>> No.3413251

>>3413235
>>3412944
>>3412911
>>3412866

Krasznahorkai lived at several places around the world.
If you read some interviews he (as Bela Tarr) states that his stories take place in East Europe but it does not boils down only to that specific region.