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Could someone please explain the general principles of Habermas and the Frankfurt School? Is it the same thing as critical theory?

I have a friend who raves about Habermas and the Frankfurt school and he's normally a smart guy so that is what piqued my interest.

>> No.3404957

It's an over-intellectual circle jerk. When you meet one of these cunts, run as fast as you can, keep running, don't look back.

>> No.3404973 [DELETED] 

>>3404929
Habermas is from the frankfurt school?

>> No.3404979

his The Theory of Communicative Action, Volume 1: Reason and the Rationalization of Society is very illuminating

>> No.3405064

>>3404973
Technically yes, but he is pretty late and also deviates a lot from what people normally think of, i.e. Adorno, Horkheimer and Marcuse. They are what I like to call 'modulation Marxists', whereas Habermas is a paladin of liberal democracy...

>> No.3405087

"stalin and freud are pretty cool dudes, fuck science"

There you have it.

>> No.3405110

>>3405087
More like, 'fuck jazz'
Adorno apparently saw it as representative of crass commercialism or something.

>> No.3405112

>>3405087

> all those implications

>> No.3405240

>>3405110
If Adorno saw jazz as a representative of crass commercialism, then he's a fucking idiot.

>> No.3405292

>>3404929
My undergraduate political-thought professor was THE Habermas guy. He never raised him in class, however, but I hear his "Theory of Communicative Action" is pretty impenetrable.

>> No.3405299

>>3405240
Jazz was like lil wayne in his day.

>> No.3405302

>>3405299

>confirmed for not knowing anything about jazz

>> No.3405303

>>3405302
suspected not to know anything about lil weezy

>> No.3405315

>>3405087

> Implying Horkenhemier didn't highlight the need to delineate social science and natural science

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3405317

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/search?archTerm=critical+theory&search=Find+bk

>> No.3405369

"Critical Theory has a narrow and a broad meaning in philosophy and in the history of the social sciences. “Critical Theory” in the narrow sense designates several generations of German philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School. According to these theorists, a “critical” theory may be distinguished from a “traditional” theory according to a specific practical purpose: a theory is critical to the extent that it seeks human emancipation, “to liberate human beings from the circumstances that enslave them” (Horkheimer 1982, 244). Because such theories aim to explain and transform all the circumstances that enslave human beings, many “critical theories” in the broader sense have been developed. They have emerged in connection with the many social movements that identify varied dimensions of the domination of human beings in modern societies. In both the broad and the narrow senses, however, a critical theory provides the descriptive and normative bases for social inquiry aimed at decreasing domination and increasing freedom in all their forms." - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

Habermas is of the Frankfurt school, though he distances himself.

>> No.3405384

It's for pseudointellectuals in ivory towers that would rather speak in abstracts and practice obscurantism instead of pragmatically confront the issues facing the world right now.

Which is why Chomsky > any ivory tower circlejerk

>> No.3405426

>>3405384

u wot m8

>> No.3405627

Habermas is underrated.