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Anonymous Wed Jan 23 03:47:04 2013 No.3389495 [Reply] [Original]

What does /lit/ think about Noam Chomsky?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 03:49:03 2013 No.3389496 >>3389495 He's a shithead who ruined linguistics as a science.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 03:50:03 2013 No.3389499 File: 21 KB, 460x288, noam-2_1672791c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3389495 Dis here is mah main man, professor Norman Chomskey

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 03:56:03 2013 No.3389502 >>3389499 Wait. Hold the phone. I got curious and googled this shit, although I think Ali G is some really lowbrow bullshit... Is this correct? Chomsky isn't even so much as bilingual?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 04:14:03 2013 No.3389528 >>3389502 I think he knows hebrew.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 04:30:03 2013 No.3389538

>>3389528
Yeah, I tried to find some definitive source that says. Most just say he knows Hebrew, English and nothing else.

That's very disheartening to me. I always imagined he spoke 5+ languages, because practically all European linguists are polyglots.

It's kind of embarrassing, actually.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 04:32:03 2013 No.3389539 oppan chomsky style

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 04:33:03 2013 No.3389544 >>3389538 He speaks French. As he was able to understand Foucault.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:28:06 2013 No.3391114 >>3389538 I think he's able to understand French and German, but is unable to speak or write them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:43:05 2013 No.3391751 Not a big fan of his political tripe. Pseudo intellectual turds seem to love his little screeds, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:46:05 2013 No.3391765 >>3389538 He understands French and German. He can speak and write in Hebrew and English. Postmodernists fucking hate him, therefore I love him. A good little "documentary" regarding his haters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNGk_4GGaBM

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:50:05 2013 No.3391782 >>3389539 fantastic/10

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:51:05 2013 No.3391783

>makes Jews buttfurious
>makes conservatives buttfurious
>makes right-libertarians buttfurious
>makes Marxists buttfurious
>Makes Leninists buttfurious
>makes postmodern "intellectuals" buttfurious
>makes the media buttfurious

Tell me again why I'm supposed to dislike him?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:52:05 2013 No.3391787 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dw5opEYprQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:53:05 2013 No.3391793 >>3391787 >>3391782 >>3389539

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:57:05 2013 No.3391812 >>3391783 proofs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:59:05 2013 No.3391820 >>3391783 What if I am a Jew/conservative/right-libertarian/Marxist/Leninist/postmodern "intellectual"/media?

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:01:05 2013 No.3391822

Intelligent and provocative. Babby's first intellectual but not a bad thing if people are able to move past him and educate themselves.

I do find it amusing the number of people (particularly young) who have a beef with him and think they're smarter than he is, when they don't even know what the word "literally" means.

>It's pretty clear that, taken literally, the Second Amendment doesn't permit people to have guns

Seriously, a ton of retards on /pol/ get asshurt over him saying this and called him an idiot, when he made a point and uses this lame linguistic humor all the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:01:05 2013 No.3391824 I've seen a few times on /lit/ the sentiment that he somehow ruined linguistics. I'm not even familiar with the field, but, how did he supposedly ruin it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:02:05 2013 No.3391833 File: 71 KB, 479x422, 20060926.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He sort of sucks.

the only living jedi in new york Wed Jan 23 19:17:05 2013 No.3391875

>>3391824

I don't know why people would think that, but he was the progenitor of a large shift in linguistics away from theories of linguistic relativity and toward universalism. It's probably the case that the truth lies between the two extremes, so neither is fully correct and both are valuable as complements.

I think that some people think that because some of his postulates for the Universal Grammar have been shown not to hold, the entire theory is junk, and that's not true at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:22:05 2013 No.3391894 >>3391833 Ho Chi Min was glorious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:31:06 2013 No.3391910 File: 27 KB, 540x391, 1345169279451.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He is sometime blatantly self-contradictory but he makes some good arguments occasionally. He is babby's first intellectual.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:35:05 2013 No.3391923 >>3391910 >Saving macrod images with typos

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:38:05 2013 No.3391937 >>3391923 >not having dyslexia

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:42:06 2013 No.3391952 >>3389495 I cannot say anything as good as Aaron Swartz. Take a look at this: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/epiphany Noam Chomsky is waaaaaaaaaaay beyond our time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:44:06 2013 No.3391961 >>3391952 >http://www.aaronsw.com That's Aaron Swarz's site? I only ever knew it for the Tom the Dancing Bug archive on there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:46:06 2013 No.3391967 >>3391961 is some kind of joke? yes, that`s his site.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:48:05 2013 No.3391977 >>3391967 I dunno, I just find it kind of spooky.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:50:05 2013 No.3391985 >>3391977 WTF? are you a troll? Please lets be serious, the man is dead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:52:06 2013 No.3391995 >>3391985 I'm serious: http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/tddbArchive It doesn't work anymore, but it helped me get through an incredibly boring summer desk job a few years ago. Also, he died 10 years after making it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:58:05 2013 No.3392012 >>3391995 well, perhaps he liked to compare his own philosophies with comic strips. He also liked Noam Chomsky after all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:11:05 2013 No.3392806 He's a bro. He also responds to emails which is great of him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:33:06 2013 No.3392849 >>3391820 Then you are the enemy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:35:06 2013 No.3392855 >>3392806 Yes he does. He has responded to me a few times.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:36:06 2013 No.3392856 >>3392849 :(

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:39:06 2013 No.3392866 >>3392856 Although, I should restate, if you are merely a Jew that does not make you the enemy. I'm not a stormfag.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:43:06 2013 No.3392878

>>3391833
>2013
>still believing the bullshit narrative that Chomsky is an apologist for dictators

Do me a favor and actually read The Washington Connection and Third World Fascism instead of some crass anti-Chomsky Andrew Sullivan article.

Or just watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNGk_4GGaBM

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:00:07 2013 No.3392915 >>3392878 Man, that interviewer really wants to crucify him over something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:04:06 2013 No.3392928 >>3392915 She's from the Israeli media. It's to be expected.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:20:07 2013 No.3393462 [DELETED]

>>3389496
it was a science before him, it was Pavlovian Behaviorism
>>3391114
>>3391765
his first teaching job was teaching a French/German cram class for undergrads at Harvard, back in the old Gentlemenly days you had to learn them no matter what course you took
So a cram class would be taught around the time of the exams so they could remember enough to pass and then forget it
>>3391751
>corporations are our friend, the big bad guvmit makes them behave badly
>>3391833
hard mode: quote and cite
hardest mode: dont obliviously repeat what you hear, look into claims people make
>>3391910
>how do I context or whole statement
>>3392806
>>3392855
he spends up to 6 hours a day doing this, so please dont waste his time
also the Boston PD have been checking his snailmail ever since the Unabomber put him on his hit list and other rightwingers have made threats to so also dont waste their time
(he was also on Nixons enemies list, great minds think alike eh?)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:21:07 2013 No.3393463 >>3392928 a lot of Israeli media is pretty critical of the government and the settlement policy you can see mainstream liberal press like ha'artz criticising it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:42:06 2013 No.3393487 >>3389544 Yeah. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WveI_vgmPz8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0SaqrxgJvw

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:50:07 2013 No.3393501
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Threads on /lit/:
>What do you think of Noam Chomsky
>I'm a Nihilist prove me wrong faggots
>Do you think speed reading is a good thing
>I just read great Gatsby and...
>I don't like reading, how do I read?
>What philosophy should I read first?
>I'm about to write my first novel so please tell me how I can write things
>Is there an anime deeper than Neon Genesis Evangelion

The last one especially cracks me up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:10:06 2013 No.3393530 >>3393501 good post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:17:06 2013 No.3393544 If you add lizards, Chomsky turns into David Icke.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:18:06 2013 No.3393546 >>3391751 >Not a big fan of his political tripe. How is it political tripe?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:24:06 2013 No.3393561 >>3391910 What are the source of the quotes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:30:06 2013 No.3393570 >>3393501 >Is there an anime deeper than Neon Genesis Evangelion In all fairness, just about every single one of those is made by bored cross-boarders who want to shitpost.

>>	Illusive Man Thu Jan 24 08:39:07 2013 No.3393585 I think he's an over-paid bureaucrat that's been a bureaucrat for too long. He's a down-right socialistic scumbag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:58:06 2013 No.3393616 >>3393585 How the fuck is he a bureaucrat

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