/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.3368212]

should I start with the trial or the castle?
already read the complete short stories

[Anonymous No.3368217]

The Trial is better, but both are worth a read
I'd read The Trial first

[Anonymous No.3368223]

The Trial. It's another short story.

[Anonymous No.3368247]

>>3368212
>>3368217
>>3368223
thirded

[Anonymous No.3368287]

But what about Amerika?

[Anonymous No.3368292]

>>3368287
it's on the list, would you recommend it before the trial?

[Anonymous No.3368503]

>>3368292
Amerika's more of a deep-cut.

I'd say start with The Trial, The Castle's a bit maddening for someone reading one of Kafka's novels for the first time.

[Anonymous No.3368507]

You're reading in German, yes? Otherwise, don't bother.

[Anonymous No.3368510]

>>3368507
>tfw studying german for no reason other than eventually being able to read kafka

[Anonymous No.3368525]

>>3368507
>translationfags get out

It would be at least a year before you could read any of Kafka's novels. If you want to read it, just read it.

I don't know about the others, but if you're going to read The Castle, you'd do well to track down a copy of The Castle: Definitive Edition. It's got an "homage" (in lieu of a forward) from Thomas Mann and it's a pretty solid translation.

Also, ignore any translation of The Trial which substitutes "traduced" with "telling lies" in the first sentence.

[Anonymous No.3368531]

>>3368525
>It would be at least a year

Are you suggesting that's a long time?

[Anonymous No.3368541]

>>3368507
why yes, you will totally lose all the fine prose :D
>Er suchte es sich dadurch zu erklären, daß nach seinen bisherigen Erfahrungen der amtliche Verkehr mit den gräflichen Behörden für ihn sehr einfach gewesen war. Das lag einerseits daran, daß hinsichtlich der Behandlung seiner Angelegenheit offenbar ein für allemal ein bestimmter, äußerlich ihm sehr günstiger Grundsatz ausgegeben worden war, und andererseits lag es an der bewunderungswürdigen Einheitlichkeit des Dienstes, die man besonders dort, wo sie scheinbar nicht vorhanden war, als eine besonders vollkommene ahnte

[Anonymous No.3368543]

>>3368525
Don't read the David Wyllie translation of The Trial. It's awful. Seriously. Read the one by Willa and Edwin Muir.

[Anonymous No.3368550]

>>3368543
Kafka speaks legalese. A good translation must only contain local legalese.

[Anonymous No.3368551]

>>3368510
Good move. Then you get read Rilke, Holderlin, Heidegger, Heine, Adorno, etc. Great language for poetry and philosophy.

[Anonymous No.3368563]

Hello /lit/,
could you guys please recommend some literature about loneliness or "monologic" literature in general?
I like identifying with a single train of thought...I guess you get what I think of... :S

[Anonymous No.3369384]

>>3368543
That's the one I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.3370405]

>>3368507
>>3368525
>>3368543
>>3368550
>>3368551
>>3369384
google translate would suffice for Kafka
also
>reading Hölderlin and Adorno
why.jpg

[Anonymous No.3370411]

I like The Castle most. I really like snow so it gets more points for that and I think it just has the best feeling to it, that something isn't right, is this a dream feel.

[Anonymous No.3370415]

>>WIE EIN HUND!!!

[Anonymous No.3370445]

>>3368212
Doesn't matter...
And don't take his writing too serious. It is acutally quite funny sometimes.

[Anonymous No.3370457]

>>3368510
His diaries are worth it.

[Anonymous No.3370922]

>>3368541
Damn, I love this shit.

[Essex de Vere !!lmSgGrvazOe No.3371089]

You gotta go to the Trial first
As your execution
Lies in the Castle;
The Queen's Fool thought it
Would be a Plebby . . . Tweeesst.

[Anonymous No.3371098]

>>3371089
die

[Essex de Vere !!lmSgGrvazOe No.3371156]

>>3371098
Die wert de welt de Vere.

Accept the exception of this cheesy fromage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wx4AzUlaSg