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Anonymous Sat Jan 12 07:24:14 2013 No.3348349 [Reply] [Original]

Pornography, like alcohol and drugs, weakens our ability to endure the kinds of suffering that are necessary for us to direct our lives properly. In particular, it reduces our capacity to tolerate those two ambiguous goods, anxiety and boredom. Our anxious moods are genuine but confused signals that something is amiss, and so they need to be listened to and patiently interpreted – which is unlikely to happen when we have to hand one of the most powerful tools of distraction ever invented. The entire internet is in a sense pornographic, it is a deliverer of constant excitement which we have no innate capacity to resist, a system which leads us down paths many of which have nothing to do with our real needs. Furthermore, pornography weakens our tolerance for the kind of boredom which is vital to give our minds the space in which good ideas can emerge, the sort of creative boredom we experience in a bath or on a long train journey.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/12/26/why-we-should-limit-internet-pornography/?mod=WSJ_article_outbrain&obref=obinsite

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 07:29:14 2013 No.3348358 I'm pretty sure that if you have an amzing writing talent, watching porn wouldn't reduce that. The people who can't write or be creative because they watch porn aren't good enough in the first place. also brb, drinking some absinthe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 07:32:14 2013 No.3348361 It really should be about the internet and not just porn. I bet everyone who reads this is addicted to the internet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 07:36:14 2013 No.3348368 File: 27 KB, 600x449, face.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >This thread >mfw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 07:39:15 2013 No.3348372 File: 8 KB, 810x524, sad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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Anonymous Sat Jan 12 07:41:14 2013 No.3348375

>Pornography weakens our ability to endure the kinds of suffering that are necessary for us to direct our lives properly.
>Our anxious moods/confused signals need to be listened to and patiently interpreted.
>Pornography weakens our tolerance for the kind of boredom which is vital to give our minds the space in which good ideas can emerge,
So much pseudo-science and puritanical rhetoric.
0/10 - would not stop fapping.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 07:46:14 2013 No.3348381 Science is for those who learn, poetry for those who know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 08:22:14 2013 No.3348423 And I base this on absolutely nothing.

>>	Ars Hola !!bwMFt3btQlc Sat Jan 12 08:25:14 2013 No.3348430 >>3348381 I learned poetry so there you're wrong I learned it as a song you mong Bong.

>>	Thúrin Sat Jan 12 09:35:14 2013 No.3348563 File: 1.92 MB, 300x238, datcum.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 09:36:14 2013 No.3348567 File: 77 KB, 500x329, rapcult.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3348563 Obviously rap culture is to blame for that.

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Anonymous Sat Jan 12 09:42:14 2013 No.3348581

>The entire internet is in a sense pornographic, it is a deliverer of constant excitement which we have no innate capacity to resist, a system which leads us down paths many of which have nothing to do with our real needs. Furthermore, pornography weakens our tolerance for the kind of boredom which is vital to give our minds the space in which good ideas can emerge, the sort of creative boredom we experience in a bath or on a long train journey.

Entire reference to the reward pathway.

The argument is constructed on the principle that prolonged exposure to stimuli that triggers the reward pathway will ultimately shape our behavioral sets; though it fails to acknowledge that this can also be a positive.

If I am conditioned to constantly strive for pleasure, and the act of reading possesses this quality, what is defunct? Do I read because I endure and tolerate the symptoms of poor or ill-written novels?

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Anonymous Sat Jan 12 09:48:14 2013 No.3348592

Remember: there was no sex crimes before pornography... or indeed bad things in general. No wars, famine, or conflict of any kind. Any historical evidence to the otherwise was put there as a test of our faith in middle eastern barbaric texts.

It was all that filthy bitch's fault Eve, and to this day this is why the human's body, and women, are filthy diseased, unclean things.

Because we've never read this sort of this before....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 09:48:14 2013 No.3348593 >>3348563 source?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 09:54:14 2013 No.3348608 I've quit fapping since new year's, and I'm suddenly having vivid dreams every single night. My balls will probably burst in my sleep due to a wet dream any day now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 09:56:14 2013 No.3348612 >>3348608 There's a difference between masturbating, and masturbating to pornography.

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Anonymous Sat Jan 12 09:59:14 2013 No.3348616

>>3348612
Really? I have to invent my own mental pornography based on ex-girlfriends and fantasy scenarios, or I can't cum. I don't see how the consequences of masturbating to a fantasy scenario are ultimately better or worse if you watch it or dream up your own.

>>	demiurge Sat Jan 12 10:01:14 2013 No.3348620 >like alcohol and drugs stopped reading right there go eat a dick

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 10:05:14 2013 No.3348631 Fuck this guy. I love the way our brains are changing in response to the internet and instant media. It's fucking great. Imagining what the next generation will look like makes me sad. Probably makes that writer sad too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 10:13:14 2013 No.3348640 >>3348608 Ypu'll get wet dreams every now and then. Take this from someone who doesn't masturbate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 11:37:14 2013 No.3348810 >>3348620 >stopped reading right there to go eat a dick I guess you couldn't wait.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 11:53:14 2013 No.3348849 File: 28 KB, 207x240, future now.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 15:48:14 2013 No.3349570 File: 68 KB, 460x282, messy-room-girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITT: denial

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 15:55:14 2013 No.3349588 >>3348631 do you really want a generation of people like us but even more autistic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 16:08:15 2013 No.3349627 File: 27 KB, 400x266, 1313516193519.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not fapping gives you more test and is like being on steroids

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 16:40:14 2013 No.3349726 >>3348563 Just look at how erect the master's member is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 17:03:14 2013 No.3349803 >>3348616 >mental pornography You mean fantasy? As in imagine something sexy? Because I would assume having to invent or recall something is a more active (or at least creative) act than watching something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 18:44:14 2013 No.3350116 File: 67 KB, 543x635, 1346185330204.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is literally everyone trying to get me to stop fapping? It's great, and I'm never stopping.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 18:45:14 2013 No.3350118 >Alain De Botton Well that explains that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 18:46:14 2013 No.3350119 >>3350116 Lingering puritan ethics. You're right to reject it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 23:10:14 2013 No.3350859 File: 185 KB, 1060x1600, rebacca-black-sexy-2011+rebacca-black-sexy-2011+rebacca-black-sexy-2011+rebacca-black-sexy-2011+rebacca-black-sexy-2011.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3350118 Faggot, nothing wrong with ADB

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Anonymous Sat Jan 12 23:13:14 2013 No.3350866
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Damn it did anyone actually read that passage.

Alain De Botton is saying that with internet distraction, people don't get enough downtime to be dream, get ideas and be creative. Its an obvious point eloquently put. He's not exactly deleting porn off your harddrive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 23:45:14 2013 No.3350979 File: 1.22 MB, 260x169, 1349890003193.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3348430 >BACK THE FUCK UP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 12 23:47:14 2013 No.3350985 >>3348349 >http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/12/26/why-we-should-limit-internet-pornography/?mod=WSJ_article_outbrain&obref=obinsite >http://blogs.wsj.com/ >blogs.wsj.com >blogs how retarded can you be OP?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 00:44:14 2013 No.3351156 File: 65 KB, 500x400, skullfuck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3350866

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 00:51:14 2013 No.3351177 >>3350859 I thought his Proust book was good but didn't like any of his others.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 00:53:14 2013 No.3351188 it's not just porn, remember Brave New World? Everyone is completely preoccupied with their own interests to the point of stagnation as a race of humans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 01:07:14 2013 No.3351225 Pretty much the standard fare from Alain de Bottom these days. I wouldn't get my titties in a twist over it. I think he's more right than wrong, but of course it's the peculiar light in which I look at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 01:45:14 2013 No.3351305 File: 18 KB, 248x388, david-cameron-cock3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3350985 Retarded, heh. Try reading some De Botton and realise your fail.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 01:53:14 2013 No.3351313 >>3349803 Yeah man, I like totally don't even watch TV anymore either. I just dream up the shows. So much more active.

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Anonymous Sun Jan 13 02:16:14 2013 No.3351345

>pornography, alcohol, and drugs are bad

Suck a dick.

Puritan queerbait trying to ruin life for everyone.

Excuse?
>we need to experience bad things and boredom so we can "produce" creative things!

Jesus christ, it's all about production. Obviously the faggot thinks the point of life is to make more goods (hopefully creative goods thought up on gay train rides and queer bubble baths) to pay taxes for single welfare moms and niggers.

>men drop out of society because society is at war with us
>HURR DURR BAN Drugs+porn
>MAKE THEM WORK

Liberals = modern day puritans +single moms + welfare

Real way to live life:
YARR HARR DIGGITY DEE
DO WHAT YOU WANT CUZ A PIRATE IS FREE
YOU ARE A PIRATE!

>tfw it takes a kid's show to make you realize the truth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 02:43:15 2013 No.3351384 >>3351345 But the article says none of this, phantom demons in your mind did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 02:54:15 2013 No.3351410 remember that one cracked article going around on this site that basically said the only reason for living is so you can produce something for the world to use. everyone was like omg he's so right. hahahaha fucking peasants.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 02:58:15 2013 No.3351428 >>3351384 Gotta read between the lines. >>3351410 Slave morality?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 03:02:45 2013 No.3351440 File: 21 KB, 360x433, 7589913.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3351428 >Gotta read between the lines.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 03:06:15 2013 No.3351451 >>3351345 So far this reply is the strongest evidence for OP

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 13 03:10:15 2013 No.3351461 >>3351410 here it is http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/

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Anonymous Sun Jan 13 03:11:15 2013 No.3351463

>>3348349
Once again Luddites don't get it. Porn and the Internet is a part of our world now. Avoiding it won't help anymore than a Mormon avoiding alcohol. Embrace it and through experience learn to control it. This will be a new challenge of growing up.

You now realize the Sith were right all along.