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What is more important in a man, masculinity or intellect?

>> No.3325250

>implying exclusivity

>> No.3325249

If you really have intellect you will have both.

>> No.3325255
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3325255

Going by social consensus, masculinity.

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3325252

Apathy

>> No.3325263

the question is semantically null; masculinity isn't a thing and intellect is barely a thing.

make a better post

>> No.3325743

>>3325255
>Thinking all women are the same
>2013

9_9

>> No.3325899

>>3325240

after a certain age - 35 women stop lookin for attractiveness and start lookin for good manners and intellect. just for the record.

>> No.3325904

>>3325899
Not really.

>> No.3325908

>>3325743
Don't kid yourself.

>> No.3325913

I have developed both, which works in my favor, ep

>> No.3325915

>>3325263

>masculinity isn't a thing

How do I know you're a manlet?

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3325930

I always had huge amounts of both, so I don't have standards to judge which is more important.

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>>3325930

>> No.3325953

i was about to contribute to this thread until i read it. sage

>> No.3325954

Intellect can be masculine. Hell, a LOT of the time it is. People undermine how attracted girls are to men who show genuine knowledge and a passion for it.

>> No.3325956

"You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored?" Yea, a man's sole virtue is his manliness; and the perfect gentleman was the Son of God.

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>>3325930

>> No.3325980

>>3325904

no, really. Also, things have changed since in the past, women picked men according to their masculinity because since they were strong, they could support the family more easily ; now women choose men with money and career since it is how the society is arranged and such ppl will survive. Despite that - women are not so externally orientated, despite how the popular media present them.

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3325991

Ha. I was surprised to see so many masculine intellects for a moment until I remembered I was on 4chan's /lit/ board. Very few female autistics.

Most male writers these days are pretty effeminate, I think. I'm Nnt trying to be misogynistic but if you do a good image search for any contemporary writer it's either a woman or an effeminate guy.

>> No.3325997

>>3325991
I can't think for lot of them in the past as well. And don't give me Ham-in-gway or Bukowski because I hate these lads.

>> No.3326002

>>3325240

i can understand the quest. but the photo is wrong because masculinity is not equal to muscles. To have muscles don't mean anything. Masculinity is more about presence. Badassness is not compulsory too.

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>>3325997
No Hemingway or Bukowski. Take a look at Plato or pic related.

>> No.3326016

>>3326003
according to google images Plato was born old with beard.

>> No.3326024

intellectualism is a reflection of one's security in society.

intellectuals would also deduce that, not masculinity, but physical prowess is important.

>> No.3326026

>>3326016
All about dat facial structure mang. Do a literal translation of 'Plato'.

>> No.3326029

>>3325991
Because he doesn't look manly doesn't mean he isn't. Like the other anon said, it's about presence.
captcha: man darentl

>> No.3326032

>>3326029
I was actually citing Byron as an example of a masculine writer. Byron could kick some ass; disregard the dress.

>> No.3326038

>>3325980
Ah, but now you are talking about stability and economics. Your original statement was that they start to prefer "good manners and intellect," which are two unrelated concepts.

>> No.3326047

>thinking anything is important
get a load of this faggot

>> No.3326051

>>3326047
...

>> No.3326054

>>3325991
Reading for pleasure has been feminized, ergo writers have been feminized. It's part of the "Men R dum and wimmen r gready" crap society is subjecting us to.

>> No.3326060

>>3326054
When in reality I view reading as a sort of attack, viciously analyzing everything until I've won understanding.

>> No.3326061

>>3326060

gross

>> No.3326065

>>3326061
pussy

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3326070

>>3325991
why dont u say that to my face fagget

>> No.3326084

http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/12/24/reviews/001224.24spurlit.html

A.J. Ayer's a fucking boss

>> No.3326090

>>3326060
Brofist.

>> No.3326251

>>3326090
;p

>> No.3326781

masculinity if u can only have one

>> No.3326789

cant we be /fit/ AND /lit/?

>> No.3326794

Femininity and intellect are preferable. Therefore, intellect is more important than masculinity, as the latter is replaceable, while the former isn't.

>> No.3326796

Intellect. You might be good with a broadsword but a drone will kill your ass.

>> No.3326802

>>3326794

why?

>> No.3326806

>>3326802
What could replace intellect? Or do you mean why femininity is preferable to masculinity? That's the Daoist influence on my thoughts.

>> No.3326811

>>3326806

re femininity

>> No.3326819

>>3326811
Femininity strives to return to the simple and uncomplicated. It doesn't force, it instead lets itself be guided. Really though, read Tao te Ching, it deals with it perfectly and makes it clear within a couple of pages. Regardless of if it's preferable or not, it is at the very least not inferior to masculinity, making it an equal replacement.

>> No.3326823

>>3326819

fair enough

>> No.3326826

>>3326819

>Femininity strives to return to the simple and uncomplicated
>dat reductive tripe

>> No.3326837

>>3326826
I'm sorry that you choose to disregard the wisdom of most wise men to have walked the planet. Now, the next time you wish to speak up on a subject, I would love to hear you do just that and speak up about your rationale.

>> No.3326840

>>3326796
and the guy who designed and engineered the drone will feel depressed because masculine men get all the women. sure, he gets his trophy wife when he is 35 but she cheats on him.

>> No.3326842

>>3326837

You're appealing to authority and pretending to be able to define something as vague and nebulous as 'femininity' universally and cross-culturally. Why should I be arsed to explain shit to you?

>> No.3326848

For man: A mans intellect
for woman: A mans masculinity

>> No.3326851

>>3326842
No, I am just sorry that your vehement rejection of what has evidently worked for a lot of people leaves you less likely to achieve the peace that they have. That I was, and am, sorry, had nothing to do with the logical argument. I apologize if I didn't make that clear. Femininity on the other hand is very well defined by just Daoism, and while it's not the only one, that's the definition I decided to use as it, to me, carries the most relevancy.

>> No.3326853

>>3326848

>>>/b/

>> No.3326862

>>3326851
>Daoism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMigXnXMhQ4

>> No.3326863

>>3326853
You actually think women go for intellect?
>>>/soc/

>> No.3326869

>>3326840
And the masculine men will feel depressed when the rich guys get all the women. Sure, they got to fuck around when they were young but now they'd rather have security than a toy.

>> No.3326870

>>3326863

I think humans of both sexes go after an emergent whole.

>> No.3326883

Let's not have this thread turn into /b/-fare sexism. Women are, like men, a varied lot with many kinds of preferences, and what you all have learned in high school or from anonymous tumblr quotes is largely irrelevant.

>> No.3326885

>>3326870
Well, you're wrong. And jesus could your answers be more PC. Go back to Tumblr and rest there under the shade of your own intellectual ego.

>> No.3326888

>>3326885

>you're wrong

Nice retort.

Nothing about my post was politically correct, and that's hardly my aim. Identity politicization is demeaning to both sexes.

Feel free to justify your original claim at any point.

>> No.3326890

/fit/ needs to fuck off. reported.

>> No.3326891

>>3326888
He's a troll. A philistine. There's no reason to argue with him, as he won't argue back.